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New monitor fitted, runs landscape (not landscape flipped) - playfield recording is now flipped correctly after capture.

No problem, not much to see really though except it's not rotated 180deg. Here you go; The Simpsons Pinball Party (Stern 2003).zip

Apologies Tom. I am an idiot!. The playfield screen is currently landscape flipped in windows (so standing in front of cab taskbar runs down left hand side of the screen, but the actual screen bottom is on the right). I think i did it like that because standing on the left of the cab is easier, but for connectivity it made sense to mount the playfield screen the other way round. Sorry about the misinformation. Not sure how many permutations of possible cab setups you can cater for in pinballx. I will see if i can correct my ways with the new screen, if i can then hopefully it'll resolve the playfield recording. Awesome! Thanks Tom

Ok, thanks for looking. Guess it's another gremlin in my system somewhere Anything you can do about the backglass recording fullscreen rather than using offsets/width? (think this may have come up before on the forum somewhere)

Thanks Tom, Tried the new version (with 5sec videos); With no hide backglass set, same result,. No BG video, PF not rotated. LogNoHideBG.txt With BG set to hide, the backglass is recorded (but is fullscreen so doesn't take into account pinballx width/offset values). PF is still not rotated. logHideBG.txt

Backglass is just standard landscape set up, no rotation (unless you mean picking that up instead of playfield monitor settings for video creation - which i guess would make sense) Tried 20sec video creation. Same result so can rule that out.

Strange.. well, i am hopefully upgrading the playfield monitor in the next couple of days (if i can get it to fit!) - that might fix it / reset the windows config. Do you want me to try and pull anything out of the registry before that? Edit - this might be a factor, currently windows has playfield as screen 2, backglass screen 1,DMD screen 3. PinballX has playfield screen 0, backglass screen 1, dmd screen 2. So maybe it's the playfield <-> backglass numbering reversal that's throwing it all out. Think that happened when i changed GPU.

Cheers guys.. I'll try with a 20sec record option to see if that changes anything. Playfield is landscape, rotated 270deg (same as pinballx config).

I'll admit it's taking me a while to break old habits and move away from PBX Recorder to use the inbuilt PBX version. Anyway finally got round to using it on the cab, the playfield video shows upside down in the front end (i.e. not rotated 180 deg), but that might be because a step is missed as no backglass video is created either. I'm guessing it might have something to do with with my now non standard backglass setup (not using the full screen, so width and x offset adjusted to use the right hand two thirds of the backglass screen https://www.gameex.info/forums/topic/25049-guide-playfield-mirrored-to-backglass/?do=findComment&comment=197414) Usual log and ini attached. PinballX.ini log.txt (as a side note you can see i've manually edited the ini to record only 5sec videos which isn't available in Settings directly, maybe some shorter time options would be useful to have in there, i don't think many people will use the option to record 4min videos!)

From what you've said it sounds like you're seeing your new lists twice?. Did you create custom lists (the ini files) and also custom lists of the same name (with .xml extension in the same database folder)?. Screen shots of PinballX lists and the database folder contents will help. The ' tables' text is probably being appended by PinballX, Settings.exe -> Text -> Tables Edit - copied original response from the other post that didn't have log attached. That shows only filter lists loaded, not custom db's too.

Moved!

Please attach your pinballx\config\pinballx.ini file. It sound like in settings.exe under display settings you have 'Use Direct B2S in Front End' set to Yes for the VPX backglass images. For the list you want to select the All Tables menu option.

These might fill a few holes with pngs until the swf issue is resolved https://mega.nz/folder/p3hREDgB#pEWMJvVQ7t3Sv_TmrxdU-w/folder/ozxWFLrT (no idea whose mega share that is) Edit - also a couple of alternative links on here https://montetoncab.fr/les-medias-pincab/ (and don't forget in database manager you can add mega links for media and then download it and import it directly for tables!)

FWIW, i'm happy with the current implementation. I now run VPX exclusively and have two custom systems set up for VPX. Whichever one of them i'm using i'd want to see the lists of the other. I do have the system menu disabled though so maybe there's an option to use that setting as a flag, i.e. if system menu disabled show all filtered lists, if system menu enabled show only filtered lists for the current system.. Just a thought.

2nd take on this... as performance isn't an issue, i've decided to have the playfield mirror on the backglass always on!. Squeezing the backglass and using ~1/3 of the screen for a playfield mirror. mirror2.mp4 This has the advantage that you don't need a button to toggle it on/off, no need to use a background, and you don't get occasional issues with some backglass files still wanting to stay in front of the mirror image. Some backglass files also look better 'square' (using the other 2/3 of the backglass screen), some don't. Instructions are similar to first post above except; Install and Setup OBS Studio - no need to center to screen, drag the red rectangle in OBS to the left or right of the preview area. Optional OBS Setup - None of those steps are needed as no background used. Final OBS Setup - extra step needed in settings, Make Projectors Always on Top - uncheck this option Visual Pinball - no need to change formtofront in B2STableSettings.xml. And then a few extra bits to change; Visaul Pinball\Tables\Screenres.txt - Adjust , backglass width and x offset, also dmd x offset. See https://www.vpforums.org/index.php?showtopic=19589&p=179173. You can do this with trial and error or if you're a pup pack user you can user the pup screen setup program to work out the values by adjusting the screen preview settings (which you'd need to do anyway) PinballX - Adjust display settings backglass values- should be similar to screenres.txt changes, and then call the batch file to toggle the mirror on/off in Run Program at Startup and on Exit Program in settings.exe. Now Mrs Scutters can sit back and marvel at my playing ability from a distance while waiting her turn (edit - sorry about the size of the video window in the post, I don't know how to resize it!. Try right click and Open video in tab for a better view)

@barto107 Don't know if it's an alias you use but deathinc had the same issue, see https://vpinball.com/forums/topic/guardians-of-the-galaxy-2/page/14/#post-196708

Thanks for testing it out Mike. Good luck with finding some friends

Why would you want to mirror the playfiled onto the backglass?... it's because we're not all anti social, and when you've got people round if the cab's in the corner you can't always see what's going on. That's why! This is way to press a button after launching a table and have the backglass display replaced by a playfield 'mirror'. Not much use for older tables where the score is on the backglass maybe, but it's great for modern SS tables! Hopefully you get the idea of what i'm talking about with this remarkably bad video.. mirror.mp4 How to Do It Install and Setup OBS Studio Download and install from https://obsproject.com/download (i used V25.0.8) Open OBS Under Scene Collection menu, select New. Name it MirrorPF Sources window. Select Add. Set as Display Capture, name it PF. Select playfield screen and OK it. Playfield screen should now be shown in Preview window. Right Click on Preview window, select Fullscreen Projector (Preview), select the Backglass montitor Right Click on Preview window, select Transform->Rotate 90 degress CW Right Click on Preview window, select Transform->Center to screen Manually resize the red rectangle in preview window by dragging the corners to fit (you can size so the apron and/pr top of playfield will not be mirrored to the backglass) Optional OBS Setup Add a background, this will replace the black border areas around the playfield screen on the backglass. I used https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGx0teEbLJ8 (rotated, cropped and then resized to same resolution as my backlass monitor). In Sources window, right click and add Media Source, name it Background. Navigate and select a file to use. Check the Loop checkbox, clear all others except local file. Move Background in sources window to bottom of the list (drag it) Right click Background in sources window, select Transform and the Fit to Screen. At this stage you should have preview showing on your backglass of the playfield screen and a border or selected background on either side. Final OBS Setup From the main window menu, select File->Settings and check the box to Save projectors on exit and Apply. Exit OBS (by closing the main window, not the preview window) Go to C:\Users\yourusername\AppData\Roaming\obs-studio\basic\scenes and locate the MirrorPF.json (or whatever you call the scene in step 1). Right click on that file and select to make it Read Only (this is important!, if not set to read only OBS will re-open without the preview / mirror window after being closed by a batch file). Remove the read only flag if you want to amend tweak anything later but remember to set it back after. Visual Pinball Make sure you have a recent version of Backglass server that will open backglass files behind other screens (https://www.vpforums.org/index.php?app=downloads&showfile=12553) Open Visual Pinball\Tables\B2STableSettings.xml, if you have a line at the top that reads <FormToFront>1</FormToFront> change it to <FormToFront>0</FormToFront> so that the backglass will run behind the OBS playfield mirror Batch File to Open/Close the Playfield Mirror to Backglass Paste the code below into notepad and save as a batch file (*.bat) with a name and location that suits you (change the path in the code "C:\Program Files\obs-studio\bin\64bit\" to your install location if required) tasklist /FI "IMAGENAME eq obs64.exe" | find /i "obs64.exe" IF ERRORLEVEL 1 GOTO STARTOBS IF ERRORLEVEL 2 GOTO KILLOBS :KILLOBS TASKKILL /im "obs64.exe" /f GOTO EXIT :STARTOBS CD "C:\Program Files\obs-studio\bin\64bit\" START OBS64 --minimize-to-tray --scene "mirrorpf" GOTO EXIT :EXIT The batch file will toggle the playfield mirror to backglass on/off. Calling the Batch File Ideally you'll have a programmable button somewhere on the cab that can call the batch file directly when needed (i have a griffin powermate that i use mainly as a volume control, but i can also press it in to call a batch file). But it could possibly also be used in PinballX via launch before and launch after commands for tables (but you'd probably need to setup a new system in PinballX and duplicate tables across from an existing system). Note - I only tested using a programmable button. Performance I run a 3 screen system, all at 60hz, 4k playfield. VPX vsync / frame limiter set to 1 and exclusive fullscreen. I haven't noticed any lag at all introduced by mirroring the playfield using a GTX1080. So it's all good!

Note- PinballX v4.50 now allows custom lists built on filters so this is now superceded

I manually copied the files from https://www.vpforums.org/index.php?showtopic=26602&p=455650 over the top of the existing files in the VP folder and ran ultradmd -I rather than running the udmd installer. My guess is you'll be safe to delete the visual pinball\xdmd folder, but to be safe i'd just rename it for a while and see if anything breaks before deleting.

Pic behind game ? What do you mean exactly? @djshal Please create a report of the issue as a new post in the pinballx general forum (as i suspect this has nothing to with the database manager app). Don't forget to attach your pinballx config.ini and log.txt files, and also describe the issue as well as you can as Mike suggests because i'm not sure what you mean either - attaching a screenshot of the issue might help too. Thanks!

In Pinballx settings, check your display settings, main display rotation value.

Please attach a fresh copy of your ini file and log.txt (after having to press esc twice to exit succesfully) If pinballx isn't set to run as admin then try that too. Thanks.

From your ini file; [BackGlass] monitor=1 x=0 y=0 width=1024 height=7668 I'd check that height value in settings!