At work now, so can't post log. But was up late and worked it out. I recently moved my mame to another drive so the paths was wrong. Seems that if mame paths are not right then GameEx won't load. When GameEx did the update and couldn't find Mame it created paths names in my confrig file using my root directory.Since Mame wasn't really there GameEx didn't load. Log file actually show tht it found Mame but was wrong paths. All the other paths for other emulators can be wrong but GameEx will still start. Am starting to notice a new problem. I currently have 7 external drives that each are 1 gig or larger. One drive may be arcade roms, another consoles roms, another karaoke etc. Because of the large number of files on each drive, when GameEx loads there is a long wait for it to load the files. Settings and database load times have gotten exteremly slow. It appears that GameEx loads all the settings and databases each time you run it. As a result of this I am haveing memory issues. Is there a way in settings to have GameEx only load the settings and database for the system you are currently running. Example if I want to run TG-16 CD roms, GameEx will only load the settings and database for that system. When I exit the system to use another emulator, GameEx would dump the settings and database from the eumlator I was running and load the new settings and database. This would solve the memory problems as well as speed up the system. Am currently working on using Mess for CD games as they are now using CHD files but we are looking at even larger storage As more systems become available, the loading of mutliple settings and datebases will become more and more of a problem. Now that Tom has added an excellant DVD rig I can see more storage problems.