Yes, noted It's not so much a lot of work to do initially, but would need an awfull lot of fine tuning, and probably quadruple support requests or more. it would deffinitly be only for the advanced. Also think about it this way, it would make it very easy to make GameEx not look right, or work at all. Skinning in the way suggested and the way MAMEWah does it, is still very much a while off I am afraid, if it ever happens at all. Just being upfront about it. If you used or ever see MCE you may have a better idea of my vision, intentions, and scope of GameEx possibly. Tom