Hold on theres no need to get a tude, why not be patient to see if you get other suggestions, or simply ask for other suggestions, without all the I'm paid up bollocks. If you want a refund for GameEx Ill give it to you with pleasure, but be pleasant otherwise please. This person was taking time out of his day to help you, even if it was not what you wanted. I think what the user was getting at was, see if uninstalling .net 2.0 and installing 1.1 helps. OK GameEx should work with 2.0, but if its not I need to know, and doing the suggestion is the way to find out. In addition I find it highly unlikely (but not impossible )that the GameEx code directly is causing this problem. It could be your drivers, codecs, or spyware etc, and no one else has reported this problem. Believe me people would shout very loudly on this forum if it was a big issue. Comprende Amigo? Tom. EDIT: I am not 100% sure on this, but I am fairly certain GameEx will not use .net framework 2.0 it will only use 1.1 or 1.0. Therefore if 1.1 is not installed it will run on 1.0 even if 2.0 is installed. Its a confusing situation that MS have created. .net framework 2.0 is not an update more of a completley new version. Its like comparing a windows service pack to a brand new version of windows. Look at the GameEx log file to see which versions you have installed. Your'll also notice one does not upgrade and replace another, as Im saying above.