Apologies - i may have come across a bit bitter there
It's just because i've seen this time and time again, and we given the advice, and it gets ignored, then we get comeback. "Oh, it did not work, i listened, but i did not what do you said, now it all went wrong, cries, boo! You guys suck! Fxxk you!
If people can be rational, and calm down a lil, everything will be all right!