Draco I was not condoning piracy, I was just giving my account. Adobe had publicly gone out and said (I'm paraphrasing) that they will not go after individual pirates. As long as the product is not being used for commercial usage. They don't condone it, and are not going to make it easy, but they know my story happens thousands of times over. I can't buy photoshop when I'm 13, so I find other means of obtaining it. Then when I have a career/job and "hey, I need a photo editing program, well I know photoshop like the back of my hand." now I own the master suite for myself and we have 15 seats of Adobe Master Suite on a renewing contract.. That warning was uncalled for, I never said to go pirate, where to pirate, you should pirate. I think where allowed to talk openly about "ourselves" here… I'd hope, if not, it's not worth sticking around.