well, the problem we have on my system is people dont know which controllers to use for which games. because i dont have 4 controllers for every system (that would be ridiculous amount of controllers), sometimes 2 types of controller are used for different players in one game. so what im thinking is, show a row of the controllers used for that emu, like player 1 is snes controller, player 2 also snes, player 3 n64, player 4 n64, player 5 psx (that would be my snes setup for bomberman as it is atm). for this purpose a small icon of the controller (in a horzontal row, player 1 on the left as is the norm) would be sufficient but it most not be in a submenu because then users wouldn't see it. they only need to be big enough to see, not to be labelled (unless we can find a way to fit that in). edit: even better i could make different graphics n64_pad_blue.png, n64_pad_red.png etc so people can see exactly which controller to pick up for each player #. woot! am i making any sense? edit2: your Q was where to show it. i think in the space on the launch screen under the menus would be ideal. im talking about small thumbnail size pics here (like 60x45 maybe?) *** i was MIA before 1.6 release, ive been back for a while now (and was around for post v1.5 dev). now you know