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I don't use pups normally, so added pinup player to my system and added batman 66 to my system. I launched it with VPX 10.8 through PinballX, and the Pup shows fine for me. it also loads credits.mp4 with sound and video I made a video of it : I use the following versions : VPinballX-10.8.0-1975 64bit VPinballX_GL-10.8.0-1975 64bit PinUpDisplay_v150_beta_3 VPinMAME-sc-3.6.0-998 64bit B2SServer-2.1.2 attached also my log and ini file for reference PinballX.ini log.txt

@Tom Speirs Today I experienced 1 time a load of a table that let PinballX get in a hung status as well : checking the log the last lines are : 06:43:40.53 10-7-2024: C:\pinball\Visual Pinball vr\VPinballX64.exe -play "C:\Pinball\Tables\VPX\Kiss (Bally 1979)_Bigus(MOD)3.0.vpx" -minimized -ini "C:\pinball\Visual Pinball VR\VPinballX64.ini" 06:43:40.59 10-7-2024: C:\Pinball\PinballX\vpauto.exe 06:43:44.42 10-7-2024: VPX Full screen exclusive mode detected 06:43:44.42 10-7-2024: VPX Full screen exclusive focus hack set 06:43:49.70 10-7-2024: Found PinMAME ROM: kissc 06:43:52.54 10-7-2024: Visual Pinball Player window foreground: 12 Closing the screen and rerun PinballX , all is working fine for the same table anything that can be optimized after launching the game and checking VP ? PinballX.ini log.txt

I sure don't know the code either, but I was under the impression that the B2S server is still serving as an interpreter for both DOF and Pup, even without an actual B2S backglass, and that's why both require the server to be installed and running? No, that's not what is happening. The issue is the attract mode video (credits.mp4, I believe) does NOT play at all. It APPEARS that it might be trying to start at the right time for a split second (there's a bit of a momentary visual hitch on the DMD when it should start), but immediately stops and goes on to what would otherwise happen next (display of high scores). I would say there is a little bit of inconsistency with it. I'd say 1 time out of 20 tries, the audio DID play, but even then, the video was not visibly playing in any window that could be tabbed to. The other 19 times out of 20, there's no audio or anything other than the momentary glitch. There is no standalone B2S file in play; it's a 100% pup table and the backglass is coming from pup. Thus, nothing to rename. B2S is being called by the table script. Yep, LAV codecs installed and configured. Unless there's been some substantial update to that in the past year or so that would need reinstalled.

It might be worth changing the visual pinball launch parameters in PinballX to; -DisableTrueFullScreen -minimized -play "[TABLEPATH]\[TABLEFILE]" .. so that it matches the default popper parameters. As you don't get the issue with the current launch parameters from a command line it shouldn't really change anything as the command line is doing exactly the same as PinballX is now (so i don't know what the issue/difference is). Alternative may just have be to save the table with 10.7 and then use the alternate exe flag in PinballX to launch with 10.7 for this table.

Agree. There must be difference in the launch parameters, possibly using a different VPX executable (the DX, or a 10.7 version)?

I've read more about the issues with Batman66 and VPX10.8. Is it necessary to use the GL version rather than the standard DX version? Does the DX version produce the same results? You said this issue doesn't occur with Popper. What are the command line parameters from Popper to launch this file? Perhaps opening a GitHub issue or inquiring on VPF or VPU forums would be the best approach, as the command line seems to yield the same issue.

Might not be the issue but your log shows the table launch as; 13:44:56.45 7/7/2024: C:\Visual Pinball\C:\Visual Pinball\VPinballX_GL64.exe /play -"C:\Visual Pinball\Tables\Batman 66 (Stern 2016).vpx" Which has 'C:\Visual Pinball\' twice. This is because you have included the path to Visual Pinball in the executable entry. Can you change that to include the executable name only and try again (go to settings.exe, Visual Pinball system and set the executable entry to just 'VPinballX_GL64.exe') If the issue is still present please open a cmd prompt and paste this line in (which is the same as PinballX launching the table), does the issue exist then? "C:\Visual Pinball\VPinballX_GL64.exe" /play -"C:\Visual Pinball\Tables\Batman 66 (Stern 2016).vpx"