[RESOLVED] PinballX only displaying 4 Tables of the 110 in Game Manager

[pinnutz1]

I recently installed PinballX 1.94 on a friends Win7 64Bit PC with an Nvidia 750GTX 2GB Video Card and an I5 3.4GHZ Processor with 4gb Ram. Not sure if any of that is pertinent but I thought I would get it out of the way. Initially it worked great. I dumped around 100 tables from my setup onto his PC and after some tweaking all 100 showed up and were playing without issue. I then taught him how to add tables using the Game Manager and while I was there I think he downloaded and added another 10 without issue. Last night (I wasn't there) he added Xenon with a b2s backglass just like I had showed him. He started PinballX and it showed up fine. When he went to start the game it flaked out and crashed and he had a hard time getting out of PinballX. When he restarted PinballX only four games were available.

He said he had started Xenon first in Visual Pinball and it ran fine. Over the phone I had him look manually thru the visual pinball.xml and it looked fine with no corrupted entries. I then had him load up game manager and everything shows up fine. All the games are checked as active and everything looks normal. He can start all the games from the game manager also. I had him delete Xenon (the last entry) but it had no effect. We looked in the log file and compared it to mine (over the phone) and everything seemed okay. I emailed him my xml file to see if it would load up normally. With mine he had six games available. We put his xml file back and installed 1.95. Same result.

I'm at a loss. I thought I had a pretty good handle on how this all works but I can't figure this one out. We haven't installed any Codecs as 1.94 suposedly doesn't need them and didn't as everything was working. Does it use Flash? Maybe his Flash got corrupted? I'm grabbing at straws. I searched thru the forum and all I could find was the Codec issue. Help...

[Draco1962]

Several things to recommend. Upgrade him to the latest PinballX build 1.95. Also, installing Shark007 codecs might not be a bad idea. 32-bit is really all that is needed. Last, if doing these things does not resolve the issue, we will probably need to look at his pinballx.ini and log.txt files to get more information. Thanks!

[pinnutz1]

Already installed 1.95. Didn't solve the issue. It was running without the Codecs but we can try that. I will have him send me the ini and log file tonight.

[rtkiii]

This is a lame answer but is his sort set to something other than "All Tables" Maybe before the crash and in the fuss he sorted to "1980s tables" or something.

[pinnutz1]

Well GameEX Guru that was it. Talk about making a mountain out of a molehill. I haven't used that feature much and it never even crossed my mind. If I was at his machine I probably would have thought of it but over the phone I was confused. Problem solved thanks!!

Any idea on why my 1.95 installation minimizes itself to the taskbar on a power up of the machine. I have the shortcut to PinballX in my Startup folder. Machine starts up, PinballX starts up and is ready to go then minimizes itself to the taskbar after about twenty seconds. I have to alt tab or click it with the mouse to bring it back up. After that it's fine. It's also fine if I close the app to say add a table and then reopen it. It only does it on a fresh boot.

[tthurman]

Some suggestions:

Right click your shortcut in startup > properties > shortcut, and under "run" and verify it's set to normal window or maximized.

Compatibility > Check "Run as administrator"

If you can post your pinballx.ini this could provide more insight as to what it could be.

Edited February 4, 2015 by tthurman

[pinnutz1]

It was on normal window so I tried maximize. Same result. I also took the shortcut out of startup and set PinballX to start with windows in the settings program. It took longer for PinballX to start on a boot up but it still minimized after about twenty seconds. I looked for the .ini file but couldn't find it. All there was was some high game .ini's. I looked in the log file and nothing looked amiss. I went through the background processes and services that are running and nothing looks awry. I just got this machine running on a fresh install of windows about a month ago so there isn't a lot of pollution going on. The only startup programs are AVG and the Samsung SSD software. It did not do this until I upgraded from 1.94 to 1.95.

[tthurman]

It may have nothing to do with your config, but it never hurts check.

Info on where to find the .ini can be found in this thread.

This isn't the first time I've read about this issue, but it seems pretty random and very infrequent. I would still post the .ini so the PBX experts can take a peak.

With GameEx many times you can install right over the top to resolve annoying after upgrade issues similar to this, but as I'm not well versed in PBX, so I hesiitate to recommend that without some qualified backup.

[pinnutz1]

Okay so here is my log contents after a fresh boot and PinballX has minimized to the taskbar..

20:31:32.8 2/9/2015: PinballX - Version 1.94
20:31:33.0 2/9/2015: Windows 7 Professional Service Pack 1 64-bit (7.9GB)
20:31:33.0 2/9/2015: Loading Settings
20:31:33.0 2/9/2015: Initialize Component
20:31:33.1 2/9/2015: Initialize Display
20:31:34.3 2/9/2015: Start with windows is set so waiting 5 seconds. Boot Time = 2/9/2015 8:31:24 PM
20:31:43.1 2/9/2015: Loading PlugIns
20:31:43.4 2/9/2015: Created DirectX BackGlass Window
20:31:43.5 2/9/2015: Created DirectX DMD Window
20:31:43.6 2/9/2015: Hiding Cursor
20:31:43.6 2/9/2015: Hiding Taskbar
20:31:43.6 2/9/2015: CPU: Intel® Core i7-4790K CPU @ 4.00GHz
20:31:43.6 2/9/2015: GPU 1: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 760
20:31:43.6 2/9/2015: Displays: 3
20:31:43.6 2/9/2015: Load Game List
20:31:43.6 2/9/2015: Loading Database: Visual Pinball
20:31:43.6 2/9/2015: Loading Database: Physmod 5
20:31:43.6 2/9/2015: Finding and matching artwork and videos
20:31:44.1 2/9/2015: Loading Game Statistics and Scores
20:31:44.6 2/9/2015: Loading Surfaces
20:31:44.8 2/9/2015: Finished Loading Surfaces
20:31:44.8 2/9/2015: Initialize Audio
20:31:44.8 2/9/2015: Set Keyboard Controls
20:31:44.8 2/9/2015: Initialize Joystick
20:31:44.9 2/9/2015: 1 Joystick Attached
20:31:44.9 2/9/2015: Started

Here is my ini file contents

[Display]
Monitor=0
rotate=270
Windowed=False
WindowWidth=480
WindowHeight=720
WindowX=0
WindowY=65
PlayFieldBrightness=230
WheelTextColor=ffffffff
WheelTextOutlineColor=ff000000
InfoTextColor=ffffffff
InfoTextOutlineColor=ff000000
FilterTextColor=ffffffff
FilterTextOutlineColor=ff000000
MenuColor=ffffa500
[backGlass]
monitor=1
x=0
y=0
width=1920
height=1080
[DMD]
Enabled=True
monitor=2
x=0
y=0
width=1280
height=300
AutoPositionPinMAME=False
UsePinMAME=False
[FileSystem]
EnableFileMatching=True
[interface]
DesktopModeEnabled=False
EnableAdditionalDetail=True
ShowSystem=True
ShowRatings=True
[Audio]
StreamVolume=90
SampleVolume=90
PlaySoundInVideos=True
[startup]
playsound=True
playvideo=False
StartWithWindows=Yes
[KeyCodes]
quit=27
left=37
right=39
select=13
rotate=82
pageleft=33
pageright=34
exitemulator=27
ingame=80
screenshot=83
screenshotbackglass=66
instructions=73
volumedown=109
volumeup=107
[JoyCodes]
quit=7
left=9
right=1
select=8
rotate=
pageleft=10
pageright=2
exitemulator=7
ingame=
instructions=
[Text]
Line1=Free Play
Line2=Press Start
[FuturePinball]
Enabled=False
WorkingPath=h:\-PINBALL-\-FUTURE PINBALL-
TablePath=h:\-PINBALL-\-FUTURE PINBALL-\Tables
Executable=Future Pinball.exe
Parameters=/open "[TABLEPATH]\[TABLEFILE]" /play /exit /arcaderender
LaunchBeforeEnabled=false
LaunchBeforeWorkingPath=
LaunchBeforeExecutable=notepad.exe
LaunchBeforeHideWindow=False
LaunchBeforeWaitForExit=True
LaunchAfterEnabled=False
LaunchAfterWorkingPath=
LaunchAfterExecutable=notepad.exe
LaunchAfterHideWindow=False
LaunchAfterWaitForExit=True
MouseClickFocus=True
[VisualPinball]
Enabled=True
WorkingPath=C:\Program Files (x86)\Visual Pinball
TablePath=C:\Program Files (x86)\Visual Pinball\Tables
Executable=VPinball.exe
Parameters=/play -"[TABLEPATH]\[TABLEFILE]"
LaunchBeforeEnabled=false
LaunchBeforeWorkingPath=
LaunchBeforeExecutable=notepad.exe
LaunchBeforeHideWindow=False
LaunchBeforeWaitForExit=True
LaunchAfterEnabled=False
LaunchAfterWorkingPath=
LaunchAfterExecutable=notepad.exe
LaunchAfterHideWindow=False
LaunchAfterWaitForExit=True
[ExitScreen]
Enabled=True
EnableExit=True
EnableShutdown=True
ConfirmExitGameTimer=False
[startupProgram]
Enabled=false
WorkingPath=
Executable=notepad.exe
Paramaters=
HideWindow=true
WaitForExit=false
[ExitProgram]
Enabled=false
WorkingPath=
Executable=notepad.exe
Paramaters=
HideWindow=False
WaitForExit=
[AttractMode]
Enabled=True
Timer=1
ShowFor=15
MuteAudio=False
[system_1]
Name=Pinball FX2
Enabled=False
WorkingPath=C:\Steam
TablePath=C:\Steam\Tables
Executable=PinballFX.exe
Parameters=
SystemType=0
[system_2]
Name=MAME
Enabled=False
WorkingPath=C:\- EMULATORS -\- MAME -
TablePath=C:\
Executable=mamep64.exe
Parameters=[TABLEFILE]
SystemType=0
[AutoExit]
Enabled=False
Minutes=10
[Login]
Enabled=False
[internal]
lastselected=Ali (Stern 1980)Ali_VP91x_1.3FSVisualPinball
filter_year=
filter_company=
filter_custom=
filtername=Tables
lastwheelcachematchsize=-1123
[setupWizard]
EmuPath1=C:\Emulators
AssetPath1=C:\Assets
RomPath1=C:\Roms
DefaultPathPrompt=True
DownloadDatabasePrompt=True
DownloadEmulatorPrompt=True
WizardMode=1
CustomArray=Auto Exit
SearchArray=
SavePosition=False
SectionIndex=19
SearchText=
EmulatorIndex=0
EmulatorGroupIndex=0
DaphneIndex=0
HTMLAppsIndex=0
ExternalAppsIndex=0
RadioStationsIndex=0
NewsFeedsIndex=0
MappedDrivesIndex=0
SystemIndex=9
ShowPanel=True
FontSize=1
WindowState=0
WindowSize=650,478
WindowLocation=888,290
[GameListManager]
onlinemode=false
[Plugin_1]
Enabled=False
Name=PlugInLED.dll
[Plugin_2]
Enabled=False
Name=PlugInSpeech.dll
[Plugin_3]
Enabled=False
Name=QuickLaunch (PinballX Edition).dll
[Plugin_4]
Enabled=False
Name=Xpadder Plugin.dll
[system_10]
Name=Physmod 5
Enabled=True
WorkingPath=C:\Program Files (x86)\Visual Pinball
TablePath=C:\Program Files (x86)\Visual Pinball\Tables
Executable=VP_physmod5.exe
Parameters=/play -"[TABLEPATH]\[TABLEFILE]"
SystemType=1

Edited February 10, 2015 by tthurman
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[tthurman]

Showing your running version 1.94

[pinnutz1]

I noticed the 1.94 last night as it was telling me that 1.95 was available. I downloaded and did the upgrade to 1.95 a few days after it came out. I'm not sure what is going on now. WTF, I'll download and do the update again tonight and see what happens....

[pinnutz1]

When it booted last night it wasn't giving me the 1.95 is available like it did the previous night. Something was definitely crossed up there. Re-installed 1.95. Still minimizes after a boot up.

Here is the log after a boot up and PinballX has minimized to the task bar..

19:23:24.9 2/10/2015: PinballX - Version 1.95
19:23:25.4 2/10/2015: Windows 7 Professional Service Pack 1 64-bit (7.9GB)
19:23:25.4 2/10/2015: Loading Settings
19:23:25.5 2/10/2015: Initialize Component
19:23:25.5 2/10/2015: Initialize Display
19:23:28.6 2/10/2015: Start with windows is set so waiting 5 seconds. Boot Time = 2/10/2015 7:23:15 PM
19:23:37.3 2/10/2015: Loading PlugIns
19:23:37.6 2/10/2015: Created DirectX BackGlass Window
19:23:37.7 2/10/2015: Created DirectX DMD Window
19:23:37.8 2/10/2015: Hiding Cursor
19:23:37.8 2/10/2015: Hiding Taskbar
19:23:37.8 2/10/2015: CPU: Intel® Core i7-4790K CPU @ 4.00GHz
19:23:37.8 2/10/2015: GPU 1: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 760
19:23:37.8 2/10/2015: Displays: 3
19:23:37.8 2/10/2015: Load Game List
19:23:37.8 2/10/2015: Loading Database: Visual Pinball
19:23:37.8 2/10/2015: Loading Database: Physmod 5
19:23:37.8 2/10/2015: Finding and matching artwork and videos
19:23:38.3 2/10/2015: Loading Game Statistics and Scores
19:23:38.8 2/10/2015: Loading Surfaces
19:23:39.0 2/10/2015: Finished Loading Surfaces
19:23:39.0 2/10/2015: Initialize Audio
19:23:39.0 2/10/2015: Set Keyboard Controls
19:23:39.0 2/10/2015: Initialize Joystick
19:23:39.1 2/10/2015: 1 Joystick Attached
19:23:39.1 2/10/2015: Started

Here is the .ini...

[Display]
Monitor=0
rotate=270
Windowed=False
WindowWidth=480
WindowHeight=720
WindowX=0
WindowY=65
PlayFieldBrightness=230
WheelTextColor=ffffffff
WheelTextOutlineColor=ff000000
InfoTextColor=ffffffff
InfoTextOutlineColor=ff000000
FilterTextColor=ffffffff
FilterTextOutlineColor=ff000000
MenuColor=ffffa500
[backGlass]
monitor=1
x=0
y=0
width=1920
height=1080
[DMD]
Enabled=True
monitor=2
x=0
y=0
width=1280
height=300
AutoPositionPinMAME=False
UsePinMAME=False
[FileSystem]
EnableFileMatching=True
[interface]
DesktopModeEnabled=False
EnableAdditionalDetail=True
ShowSystem=True
ShowRatings=True
[Audio]
StreamVolume=90
SampleVolume=90
PlaySoundInVideos=True
[startup]
playsound=True
playvideo=False
StartWithWindows=Yes
[KeyCodes]
quit=27
left=37
right=39
select=13
rotate=82
pageleft=33
pageright=34
exitemulator=27
ingame=80
screenshot=83
screenshotbackglass=66
instructions=73
volumedown=109
volumeup=107
[JoyCodes]
quit=7
left=9
right=1
select=8
rotate=
pageleft=10
pageright=2
exitemulator=7
ingame=
instructions=
[Text]
Line1=Free Play
Line2=Press Start
[FuturePinball]
Enabled=False
WorkingPath=h:\-PINBALL-\-FUTURE PINBALL-
TablePath=h:\-PINBALL-\-FUTURE PINBALL-\Tables
Executable=Future Pinball.exe
Parameters=/open "[TABLEPATH]\[TABLEFILE]" /play /exit /arcaderender
LaunchBeforeEnabled=false
LaunchBeforeWorkingPath=
LaunchBeforeExecutable=notepad.exe
LaunchBeforeHideWindow=False
LaunchBeforeWaitForExit=True
LaunchAfterEnabled=False
LaunchAfterWorkingPath=
LaunchAfterExecutable=notepad.exe
LaunchAfterHideWindow=False
LaunchAfterWaitForExit=True
MouseClickFocus=True
[VisualPinball]
Enabled=True
WorkingPath=C:\Program Files (x86)\Visual Pinball
TablePath=C:\Program Files (x86)\Visual Pinball\Tables
Executable=VPinball.exe
Parameters=/play -"[TABLEPATH]\[TABLEFILE]"
LaunchBeforeEnabled=false
LaunchBeforeWorkingPath=
LaunchBeforeExecutable=notepad.exe
LaunchBeforeHideWindow=False
LaunchBeforeWaitForExit=True
LaunchAfterEnabled=False
LaunchAfterWorkingPath=
LaunchAfterExecutable=notepad.exe
LaunchAfterHideWindow=False
LaunchAfterWaitForExit=True
[ExitScreen]
Enabled=True
EnableExit=True
EnableShutdown=True
ConfirmExitGameTimer=False
[startupProgram]
Enabled=false
WorkingPath=
Executable=notepad.exe
Paramaters=
HideWindow=true
WaitForExit=false
[ExitProgram]
Enabled=false
WorkingPath=
Executable=notepad.exe
Paramaters=
HideWindow=False
WaitForExit=
[AttractMode]
Enabled=True
Timer=1
ShowFor=15
MuteAudio=False
[system_1]
Name=Pinball FX2
Enabled=False
WorkingPath=C:\Steam
TablePath=C:\Steam\Tables
Executable=PinballFX.exe
Parameters=
SystemType=0
[system_2]
Name=MAME
Enabled=False
WorkingPath=C:\- EMULATORS -\- MAME -
TablePath=C:\
Executable=mamep64.exe
Parameters=[TABLEFILE]
SystemType=0
[AutoExit]
Enabled=False
Minutes=10
[Login]
Enabled=False
[internal]
lastselected=24 (Stern 2009)24 (Stern 2009) freneticamnesicVisualPinball
filter_year=
filter_company=
filter_custom=
filtername=Tables
lastwheelcachematchsize=-1123
[setupWizard]
EmuPath1=C:\Emulators
AssetPath1=C:\Assets
RomPath1=C:\Roms
DefaultPathPrompt=True
DownloadDatabasePrompt=True
DownloadEmulatorPrompt=True
WizardMode=1
CustomArray=
SearchArray=
SavePosition=False
SectionIndex=0
SearchText=
EmulatorIndex=0
EmulatorGroupIndex=0
DaphneIndex=0
HTMLAppsIndex=0
ExternalAppsIndex=0
RadioStationsIndex=0
NewsFeedsIndex=0
MappedDrivesIndex=0
SystemIndex=9
ShowPanel=True
FontSize=1
WindowState=0
WindowSize=650,478
WindowLocation=888,290
[GameListManager]
onlinemode=false
[Plugin_1]
Enabled=False
Name=PlugInLED.dll
[Plugin_2]
Enabled=False
Name=PlugInSpeech.dll
[Plugin_3]
Enabled=False
Name=QuickLaunch (PinballX Edition).dll
[Plugin_4]
Enabled=False
Name=Xpadder Plugin.dll
[system_10]
Name=Physmod 5
Enabled=True
WorkingPath=C:\Program Files (x86)\Visual Pinball
TablePath=C:\Program Files (x86)\Visual Pinball\Tables
Executable=VP_physmod5.exe
Parameters=/play -"[TABLEPATH]\[TABLEFILE]"
SystemType=1

Edited February 11, 2015 by tthurman
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[pinnutz1]

I did a little Googling and I think this might be an Aero Shake issue. In Win 7 if you shake a window the other windows in the background minimize. The startup music on PinballX is quite loud. It may be enough to shake the nudge sensor and cause PinballX to minimize. I found a regedit to turn off Aero Shake. I will try it tonight and see if it solves the problem. I will post the result tomorrow..

[tthurman]

You can also disable it in the group policy editor

This will be a very interesting find if it turns out to be your problem.

Good luck!

[pinnutz1]

Used group policy editor and diabled shake. No go. Still minimizes. It does the minimize immediately after the sound bite stops on startup. I didn't think of it but I will go into settings and turn off the sound bite and see if it does anything. Probably not going to make any difference. Anybody else got any ideas? I've dug thru the background processes and sevices and nothing seems out of the ordinary. I guess I'll do some more Googling :-)

[pinnutz1]

Fixed!! It was the Samsung Magician software for the SSD. It has an option to not run at startup so I turned it off and PinballX quit minimizing. After some Googling it appeared that everyone that was having this issue with some program or another always eliminated some startup app and it fixed the problem. You just have to find the guilty party. Anyway, it's fixed!!

[tthurman]

Thanks for sharing your solution!