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I made sure that "hide DMD" and Hide "Backglass" were both checked in the manager. And now it appears that all of my problematic tables are loading their backglasses but one. The VP10 Knorr Demolition Man still wont load its backglass. But it will load from the "launch" button in the manager. What do these two functions really do anyway? When selecting or deselecting, I am not seeing in changes when PBX is running.

Just installed 8GB from another Dell T3400. Problem remains.

It appears that every table of 100MB or larger in size has this issue.

Update: Seems the problem is still here. On only tables that are rather large in size (MBs), the DB2S backglasses will not load and you get the ding and error window. However if you run PinballX.exe as administrator. There is now hit or miss chance it will load. This worked several times in a row. Then stopped working like before. Tables and backglasses still run flawlessly from the PBX game manager or the VP editor. Just not trhough Pinballx.exe. Attaching files PinballX.ini log.txt Tables_Alpha Numeric_VP9.xml Tables_Alpha Numeric_VP9PM.xml Tables_Alpha Numeric_VP10.xml Tables_DMD_14segment VP9.xml Tables_DMD_14segment VP9PM.xml Tables_DMD_14segment VP10.xml

In my Pincab that uses PinballX, VP9, VP10, I have dual backbox monitors that span the backbox image or video. This allows me to have a much more truer to actual size backbox image that can not be had on only a single screen. All this works great for playing tables. But not so much for PinballX. Is it possible for PinballX to span a tables backbox image across two backbox monitors as opposed to just placing it on only one monitor? The resolution I am using for this is about 1768x1440 or so.

In my Pincab that uses PinballX, VP9, VP10, I have dual backbox monitors that span the backbox image or video. This allows me to have a much more truer to actual size backbox image that can not be had on only a single screen. All this works great for playing tables. But not so much for PinballX. Is it possible for PinballX to span a tables backbox image across two backbox monitors as opposed to just placing it on only one monitor? The resolution I am using for this is about 1768x1440 or so. Thanks

Okay I think I understand now. Appreciate it. Hope you enjoy DD. Its a lot of fun. -Bill

Carny, Can I get a bit more detail on this. HTML is very unfamiliar to me. I saw the .xml file you were speaking to with the many tables. But did not see any references to alternateexe tag. Is this something that needs to be added when needed to each table in the XML. If yes, would you please post an example of <<<any table> with and without the alternateexe reference? Thanks Bill

Glad I saw this post. But how do you address the .exe file in the PBX setup since VP9, VP9PM and VP10 all have different .exe files? I have my cab with theses three systems set up in a very cumbersome way using the "other systems" in the PBX setup. I would like to clean this mess up.

No problem I can provide what you need. Please tell me what you want and where I can locate it.

I am using 2.14 now. The logs from above are also from 2.14.

Okay some good news and some bad news. Good news is now the DB2S backglasses are loading properly with no error ding or messages. In the "PBX setup"...more specifically in the "other systems" parameters for the multiple groups I have created. On my single screen VPX tables for "system type". I changed this from "custom" to visual pinball" After that, the backglasses all seem to be working (see attachment). I will do some more testing to confirm but as of now, it appears the issue is resolved. Bad news. I am now getting some random crashes when PBX is running. I will try to determine a pattern if any. and respond back. I do want to talk further about the "other systems" groups I have made but I will start a new thread for this one. Thanks Bill

A few more interesting tid bits. If I launch the table through the "PinballX Game Manager" using the "launch" button. The tables and their backglasses load and play flawlessly. No ding or error window. Now execute pinballX and select the same game from the browsing menu. The DB2S backglass does not load as first thought load at all but rather, it shows the backglass screen shot from the browing menu. Again, no active backglass at all. Of course you get the error ding and window as described above indicating the DB2S issue.

Carny, Yes to clarify, all of my 150+ VP9 and VP10 tables and there associated backglasses both DB2S and B2s, play absolutely flawlessly when not going through pinballX. Everything works great through the VP editors. Something broke when upgrading from PinballX rev 2.04 to 2.12 I believe. I created the following command to run VP10 Metallica from command prompt: vpinballx.exe -play "C:\VP 10.0.0\Tables_Single Screen\Metallica (Stern 2013).vpx" When I run the above in command prompt, the table loads along with its DB2S backglass flawlessly just like if I were to load it from the editor. I do NOT get the error ding or window about the "blah balh blah\directb2s not found. Please rename blah blah blah". I then tried to load the same table through PinballX and the backglass loads but with the error ding and window above. I am not an expert at these things but all things seem to point to PBX since table loading and backglasses work flawlessly through command prompt. Like I said before. Tables that were loaded into PBX prior to the upgrade run perfectly along with their backglasses. Tables loaded into PBX after the upgrade to 2.12 all have this issue with the error ding and window. I very much appreciate you looking into this. Thanks Bill

Tom, Thanks for the reply and apologies for the delayed response. The "hide the backglass" buttons have been confusing to me. I guess I truly dont understand what they do. From what I have seen, they dont seem to have an effect at least on my cab...with allowing the DB@S background to show during play or not. With all of the buttons set to "do not show", I still had many tables where the DB2S BG appeared. Above said, I did uncheck the above function and I have seem some improvements with the more problematic tables. I also loaded up rev 2.14 so I am not sure if that factors into anything. So now all the problematic tables are showing their DB2S BG, but the the error message still appears on top of the playfield. If I hit the start button or click okay, it disappears. This seems to happen to the more recent tables I have added and to a lesser degree, the ones that have been on for quite some tim. Now when I exit PBX, I will have all of these error windows that must be removed by clicking okay. So in short, the backglasses are loading but along with the error "ding" and window. BTW, all tables and their backglasses are still loading and playing properly when loaded through the editor. No error dings or error windows. Regarding not using VP setting in the setup and using multiple "customs". I do this since the size of the many DB2S backgrounds can vary a great deal. This could be due to inconsistency from author to author or that some tables have a DMD display or not. Each one of my 6 or so custom setups have different DB2S display size parameters. This means that I have 6 tables folders as well. This ensures that I have total control over the size of the backglass being displayed for each table. If I loaded all of my tables into the VP setup. I would be forced to use a single DB2S size parameter since all of the tables would be in a single folder. Maybe there is another way to do this that I am not aware of. I would like to speak to this further once I have my bigger issue above resolved. Please advise on what I can do to help get this thing fixed. Thanks Bill PinballX.ini SetupWizard.xml log.txt

I would need more clarification on what you want from the xml file. All DB2S backglsses for all of my tables load and operate launching through the VP editor. All DB2S backglasses for all of my tables load and operate launching through the PBX v2.04 A large amount of my DB2S backglasses for my tables do not load launching through the PBX v2.12. I get the error you see for a name mismatch. However, all names are correct or they would not work through the editor. Absolutely nothing of note changed went I went from 2.04 to 2.12 This must be an issue with PBX since all backglasses load and work properly through through the editor. It just seems to me that is table x backglass loads and work right through the editor then it should also through PBX. When will a new rev of PBX be out?

Yes DB2S back glasses..

Carny, Thanks for the response. Just to recap. Every single game and its B2S BG load and play perfectly if I go through the VP editor. Absolutely zero issues with no errors. However, if I load and play through PBX, for many tables the BG is not loaded. I assume that when your in VPX, once a selection is made, that selection goes through the the VP editor to load the table. Maybe I am wrong. Above said, I dont understand how this could be an issue with VP itself. I tried the suggestions you made and the problem remains. Any other ideas? Is there a repository for older versions? My PBX 2.04 worked perfectly. Thanks for the help. Bill

Yep. They work every single time going through the editor.

Draco, I added the log above. Moving forward, I will provide the info in the way you suggest. Thanks

Some other info. The DB2S backglasses seem to work fine for "smaller" size table, such as pre VPX. However, even smaller VPx tables seem to do okay. For the huge size VPx tables such as Demolition Man, Dirty Harry or Monster Bash, 90% of the time the BG wont load with the table and you get the error that normally shows if the BG file is incorrectly named. On a freak occasion, the BG will load but never two or three times in a row. Thanks

Log.txt (at the end, isa reference to dirty harry, which did not load BG>

Here you go. Log is in next post. pinballx.ini

Draco, Did you get my log and config files? No huge rush. Just want to check to see if you got them in your email Many Thanks Bill