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Hi All, I have just installed gameEX on a new laptop and all is good accept everytime I start gameEX it loads Windows media centeralongside it. Forum search came up with nothing and I am unable to find the setting to disable this in setup wizard. Pulling my hair out here, any help would be much appreciated. Log 20:19:01.1 27/04/2013: Opening Configuration File 20:19:01.1 27/04/2013: GameEx: Version 13.10: Starting Log 20:19:01.1 27/04/2013: Operating System Platform: Win32NT 20:19:01.1 27/04/2013: Operating System Name: Windows 7 20:19:01.1 27/04/2013: Operating System Version: 6.1.7601 20:19:01.1 27/04/2013: Aero running 20:19:01.1 27/04/2013: Initializing Vista/Windows 7 volume control 20:19:01.1 27/04/2013: Getting CPU and RAM info 20:19:01.1 27/04/2013: Intel® Core i7-2617M CPU @ 1.50GHz, 6092MB 20:19:01.1 27/04/2013: 1.5Ghz - 4 Cores or CPU's 20:19:01.1 27/04/2013: Running Randomize() 20:19:01.1 27/04/2013: Loading PlugIns 20:19:01.2 27/04/2013: Loaded Plugin:"Cursor Hider" Version 1.01 By Stu 20:19:01.2 27/04/2013: PlugIn: "Cursor Hider" Initialized OK 20:19:01.2 27/04/2013: Using Plugin System Version: 1.3 20:19:01.2 27/04/2013: Checking for applications to Launch On Startup 20:19:01.2 27/04/2013: Setting default net connection limit to 15 20:19:01.2 27/04/2013: Running Misc startup tasks 20:19:01.2 27/04/2013: Setting Menu types 20:19:01.2 27/04/2013: Getting Configuration Values 20:19:01.2 27/04/2013: Using Theme: Dark Champion - Carbon 720p 20:19:01.2 27/04/2013: Checking for alternate Image Directory for Theme: Dark Champion - Carbon 720p 20:19:01.2 27/04/2013: Launching HideOS.exe 20:19:01.2 27/04/2013: Initialising Video/MNG DLL's 20:19:01.2 27/04/2013: GameEx will check for media insertion (may affect performance) 20:19:01.2 27/04/2013: Hiding Taskbar 20:19:01.2 27/04/2013: Is Media Center running? 20:19:01.3 27/04/2013: Media Center is running 20:19:01.3 27/04/2013: Checking/Creating LCD Registry values 20:19:01.3 27/04/2013: Check Media Center Exit/Start Mode 20:19:01.3 27/04/2013: Media Center Mode 2 20:19:01.3 27/04/2013: Closing Media Center 20:19:01.5 27/04/2013: Video previews on. Warning: Only recommended on modern systems 20:19:01.5 27/04/2013: Custom Game Device Input enabled: Getting custom codes 20:19:01.5 27/04/2013: Snap Delay set to: 7 20:19:01.5 27/04/2013: Get other settings 20:19:01.5 27/04/2013: Desktop set to Hide ICONS and set Background to Black 20:19:01.6 27/04/2013: Set: Find emulator artwork on best match basis 20:19:01.6 27/04/2013: Start work for Form 20:19:01.6 27/04/2013: Getting Original Screen Size 20:19:01.6 27/04/2013: Opening Database Connection 20:19:01.6 27/04/2013: Initializing Component 20:19:01.7 27/04/2013: MAME Path is: F:\Games\emulated\MAME64 20:19:01.7 27/04/2013: Model 2 Path Path is: F:\Games\emulated\Model 2 20:19:01.7 27/04/2013: Multi Core/Hyper Threading detected. Looking for emulator_multicpu.exe 20:19:01.7 27/04/2013: Model 2 EXE file is: emulator_multicpu.exe 20:19:01.7 27/04/2013: Model 2 emulator with command line support detected 20:19:01.7 27/04/2013: Use Model 2 on. emulator_multicpu.exe will launch Sega Model 2 games 20:19:01.7 27/04/2013: MAME EXE file is: mame64.exe 20:19:01.7 27/04/2013: ROM Path is: F:\Games\ROMs\Mame\Rebuilt ROMs 20:19:01.7 27/04/2013: Catver.ini is located at: C:\GameEx\DATA\catver.ini 20:19:01.7 27/04/2013: controls.ini is located at: C:\GameEx\data\controls.ini 20:19:01.8 27/04/2013: History.dat is located at: C:\GameEx\DATA\history.dat 20:19:01.8 27/04/2013: nplayers.ini is located at: C:\GameEx\DATA\nplayers.ini 20:19:01.8 27/04/2013: command.dat is located at: C:\GameEx\DATA\command.dat 20:19:01.8 27/04/2013: MAMEinfo.dat is located at: C:\GameEx\DATA\mameinfo.dat 20:19:01.8 27/04/2013: Loading Controls.ini map file 20:19:01.8 27/04/2013: Snap Path is: F:\Games\emulated\Mame32\snap 20:19:01.8 27/04/2013: Background Snap Path: Not Found 20:19:01.8 27/04/2013: AVI Snap Path is: F:\Games\Images & Video\Arcade Collections\MAME [Videos][MP4][480p][MAME .148][EM 20130306] 20:19:01.8 27/04/2013: Flyer Path is: F:\Games\emulated\Mame32\flyers 20:19:01.8 27/04/2013: Cabinet Path is: F:\Games\emulated\Mame32\cabinets 20:19:01.8 27/04/2013: Cabinet 3D Path is: F:\Games\emulated\Mame32\cabinets 20:19:01.8 27/04/2013: Title Path is: F:\Games\emulated\Mame32\titles 20:19:01.8 27/04/2013: PCB Path is: F:\Games\emulated\Mame32\pcb 20:19:01.8 27/04/2013: Artwork Preview Path is: F:\Games\emulated\Mame32\artwork 20:19:01.8 27/04/2013: Panel Path: Not Found 20:19:01.8 27/04/2013: Manual Path: Not Found 20:19:01.9 27/04/2013: Icon Path is: F:\Games\emulated\Mame32\icons 20:19:01.9 27/04/2013: Marquee Path is: F:\Games\emulated\Mame32\marquees 20:19:01.9 27/04/2013: Applying Language/Text 20:19:01.9 27/04/2013: Text/Language: English 20:19:01.9 27/04/2013: Loading Language/Text 20:19:01.9 27/04/2013: Loading Custom Emulators 20:19:01.9 27/04/2013: Loading Emulator 1: [Console] Panasonic 3DO 20:19:01.9 27/04/2013: Loading Emulator 3: [Console] Atari 2600 (Stella) 20:19:01.9 27/04/2013: Loading Emulator 4: [Console] Atari 5200 (MESS) 20:19:01.9 27/04/2013: Loading Emulator 5: [Console] Atari 7800 (ProSystem) 20:19:01.9 27/04/2013: Loading Emulator 6: [Console] Atari Jaguar 20:19:01.9 27/04/2013: Loading Emulator 7: [Handheld] Atari Lynx (Handy) 20:19:01.9 27/04/2013: Loading Emulator 8: [Handheld] Bandai WonderSwan Color (Oswan) 20:19:01.9 27/04/2013: Loading Emulator 9: [Console] Coleco Vision (MESS) 20:19:01.9 27/04/2013: Loading Emulator 10: [Console] Fairchild Channel F (MESS) 20:19:01.9 27/04/2013: Loading Emulator 12: [Handheld] Nintendo Game Boy Advance (VisualBoyAdvance) 20:19:01.9 27/04/2013: Loading Emulator 13: [Handheld] Nintendo DS (DeSmuME) 20:19:01.9 27/04/2013: Loading Emulator 14: [Console] Mattel Intellivision (MESS) 20:19:01.9 27/04/2013: Loading Emulator 16: [Handheld] SNK Neo-Geo Pocket (NeoPop) 20:19:01.9 27/04/2013: Loading Emulator 17: [Console] Nintendo N64 (Project64) 20:19:02.0 27/04/2013: Loading Emulator 18: [Console] Nintendo NES (Nestopia) 20:19:02.0 27/04/2013: Loading Emulator 19: [Console] Nintendo GameCube (Dolphin) 20:19:02.0 27/04/2013: Loading Emulator 20: [Handheld] Nintendo Virtual Boy (Red Dragon) 20:19:02.0 27/04/2013: Loading Emulator 21: [Console] Nintendo Wii (Dolphin) 20:19:02.0 27/04/2013: Loading Emulator 22: [Console] NEC TurboGrafx-16 (MagicEngine) 20:19:02.0 27/04/2013: Loading Emulator 23: [Console] Sony Playstation (ePSXe) 20:19:02.0 27/04/2013: Loading Emulator 24: [Console] Sony Playstation 2 (PCSX2) 20:19:02.0 27/04/2013: Loading Emulator 25: [PC] Sam Coupe 20:19:02.0 27/04/2013: Loading Emulator 27: [Handheld] Sega Game Gear (Fusion) 20:19:02.0 27/04/2013: Loading Emulator 28: [Console] Sega Master System (Fusion) 20:19:02.0 27/04/2013: Loading Emulator 29: [Console] Sega Genesis (Fusion) 20:19:02.0 27/04/2013: Loading Emulator 30: [PC] Microsoft MSX (MESS) 20:19:02.0 27/04/2013: Loading Emulator 31: [PC] Microsoft MSX2 (MESS) 20:19:02.0 27/04/2013: Loading Emulator 32: [Console] Nintendo SNES (ZSNES) 20:19:02.0 27/04/2013: Loading Emulator 38: [Console] Sega Saturn (SSF) 20:19:02.0 27/04/2013: Loading Emulator 39: [PC] Microsoft Windows 20:19:02.0 27/04/2013: Loading Emulator 40: [Console] Sega 32X (Fusion) 20:19:02.0 27/04/2013: Loading Emulator 42: [PC] Microsoft Windows CD 20:19:02.0 27/04/2013: Loading Emulator 46: [PC GAME] M.U.G.E.N 20:19:02.0 27/04/2013: Loading Emulator 47: [Console] Sega Dreamcast (nullDC) 20:19:02.0 27/04/2013: Loading Emulator 48: [Arcade] Taito Type X 20:19:02.0 27/04/2013: Loading Emulator 49: [Console] Atari 7800 (MESS) 20:19:02.1 27/04/2013: Checking if Steam enabled 20:19:02.1 27/04/2013: Steam is installed correctly 20:19:02.1 27/04/2013: Invalid or filtered path: c:\\program files (x86)\\steam\\steamapps\\massop\\winui 20:19:02.1 27/04/2013: Found: C:\\Program Files (x86)\\Steam\\steamapps\\common\\strikesuitzero 20:19:02.1 27/04/2013: Found Steam game. Steam enabled. 20:19:02.1 27/04/2013: Using 3D Alpha Blended Animations. 20:19:02.1 27/04/2013: Retrieving resolution setting 20:19:02.1 27/04/2013: Using General Font: Architext 20:19:02.1 27/04/2013: Using Title Font: Architext 20:19:02.1 27/04/2013: Waiting for Media Center to close 20:19:28.0 27/04/2013: Initialising Direct3D 20:19:28.1 27/04/2013: Applying GameEx is Loading Image 20:19:28.1 27/04/2013: Setting Resolution to 1360x768 32 bit color 20:19:28.1 27/04/2013: Creating Surfaces 20:19:28.3 27/04/2013: Creating Primary Surface - Full Screen Mode 20:19:28.3 27/04/2013: Creating Back Buffer 20:19:28.3 27/04/2013: Version 2 Theme being used. Loading. 20:19:28.3 27/04/2013: Loading Button Data 20:19:28.3 27/04/2013: Loading Font Data 20:19:28.3 27/04/2013: Loading Layout Data 20:19:28.3 27/04/2013: Loading Taskbar Data 20:19:28.3 27/04/2013: Loading graphic Surfaces 20:19:28.3 27/04/2013: Display is running at: 1360x768 32bit color, 60hz 20:19:28.3 27/04/2013: Adapter: Intel® HD Graphics 3000 20:19:28.3 27/04/2013: Max texture size: 8192x8192 20:19:28.3 27/04/2013: Available texture memory: 1684MB 20:19:28.4 27/04/2013: Initialising Bass Audio Library 20:19:28.4 27/04/2013: Creating Surfaces Misc and Dialogs 20:19:28.4 27/04/2013: Creating Surfaces Volume 20:19:28.5 27/04/2013: Creating Surfaces Arrows 20:19:28.5 27/04/2013: Creating Surfaces GameEXlogo Text 20:19:28.5 27/04/2013: Creating Surfaces Toolbar 20:19:28.5 27/04/2013: Creating Surfaces Toolbar Controls 20:19:28.5 27/04/2013: Creating Surfaces Backgrounds 20:19:28.5 27/04/2013: Creating Surfaces GameEx Logo 20:19:28.5 27/04/2013: Creating Surface Unselected 20:19:28.5 27/04/2013: Creating Surfaces Snaps 20:19:28.5 27/04/2013: Creating Surfaces Menu and List Bars 20:19:28.6 27/04/2013: Creating Fonts 20:19:28.6 27/04/2013: Creating Game Font 20:19:28.6 27/04/2013: Creating Game Font Faded 20:19:28.7 27/04/2013: Creating Title Font 20:19:28.7 27/04/2013: Restoring Title Font From Cache 20:19:28.8 27/04/2013: Creating Font Black 20:19:28.9 27/04/2013: Creating Font Black Small 20:19:29.0 27/04/2013: Fonts Created Succesfully 20:19:29.0 27/04/2013: 4MB Video Memory Used 20:19:29.2 27/04/2013: Playing Startup Video on thread 20:19:29.2 27/04/2013: Attempting to load game list 20:19:29.2 27/04/2013: MAME CMD options: -nowindow -joy -skip_gameinfo 20:19:29.5 27/04/2013: Initialising DirectInput for Gamepad support 20:19:29.6 27/04/2013: Using Device Controller (XBOX 360 For Windows) 20:19:29.6 27/04/2013: Loading Start Page 20:19:29.6 27/04/2013: Initializing MCE Remote 20:19:29.6 27/04/2013: Playing intro sound file 20:19:29.7 27/04/2013: Initialization OK! Starting GameEx! 20:19:29.7 27/04/2013: Testing Main Loop Once: Processing Frame 20:19:29.9 27/04/2013: Testing Main Loop Once: Main Loop ran successfully 20:19:30.0 27/04/2013: Detected Media Center launched 20:19:30.0 27/04/2013: Killing Media Center 20:19:33.5 27/04/2013: Exiting GameEx! 20:19:33.5 27/04/2013: Disposing all videos 20:19:33.5 27/04/2013: Deleting temporary Karaoke videos 20:19:33.5 27/04/2013: Disposing Image List 20:19:33.5 27/04/2013: Disposing Fonts 20:19:33.5 27/04/2013: Disposing Surfaces 20:19:33.5 27/04/2013: Saving Settings 20:19:33.5 27/04/2013: Shutting down Bass 20:19:33.6 27/04/2013: Closing HideOS.exe 20:19:33.8 27/04/2013: Disposing Plugins 20:19:33.8 27/04/2013: Disposing Plugins 20:19:33.8 27/04/2013: Closing database connection 20:19:33.8 27/04/2013: Checking for applications to Launch On Exit 20:19:33.8 27/04/2013: Launching Media Center 20:19:34.1 27/04/2013: Bye

Ptinolv you are right this works "To fix that i had to edit the [mapping off] files (from"./Gameex/Config/Emulators/") that were associated to my emulators and set the field MapGamePadExit to False." Is this the only way to fix this though? This would mean I will have to set an advanced config fpor every emulator I have which is a pain in the ass

I am using the most upto date game ex with xbox 360 official wireless controller with the usb wireless dongle. it happens 100% with up-left+button1+button2+button3 for sure Ptinolv - I will try your fix and report back.

Hi All, Long time no see [ ] I have a very strange issue and a search on the forum does not seem to find the same issue. I have removed the "Global escape Key combo" feild from the setup wizard for input settings but whenever I am ingame (any emulator) and mash buttons it will exit back to gameex if I mash hard enough. This is an issue for me when playing fighting games as you have to input a lot of commands quickly and this causes a lot of fights amongst my friends lol. I had a look in the log to see if anything shows but nothing sticks out. I also set "Enable Escape Key Exit" to "no" but this still had no affect. Any suggestions would be golden. Thanks ini.txt log.txt

Thanks Adultery for making this happen. I honestly did not think I would make top 4 due to the high quality submissions I was up against. Thanks guys you rock!!!!!!

Sorry if I missed this in a thread somewhere but the search function did not find it. Has the results of the theme competition been posted yet or is it still open for more entries? I was thinking of doing another theme this weekend but if the competiton is over I wont rush it regards

Is the deadline for this still tomorrow? Let me know Regards

Compatability mode = No apples, So I guess this emulator is dead in the water then, Looks like ill have to get on mess with this. Thanks for the help anyway.

Thanks for the feedback. Xpadder does run from command line and I can see the inputs working while this is on. The odd thing is if I go to the prosystem menu (after launching from command line) the config is correct but only the directional controls work. Its as if its blocking those keys. I ran the emu without 7z both in and outside game ex and the issue remains the same 1 thing I have not tried yet but will test later is running in compatability mode. I will update as soon as I get back from work.

Ok I have been working on this for a while now and have it working. I started from scratch as some things stopped working for no reason but basically I followed Adultery's steps below Also used the original process watch ini above Process1=launcher Process2=game Now "most" of my games work in game ex now. Ill mark this as resolved. Thanks for your help.

hmmm, The keys do not work when launching via command line outside gameex. What does this mean? this emu will never work with controllers via command line?

Hi All, I had this working in 32 bit windows using the below advance config. Now in 64 bit windows when I launch any of the games outside game ex they work but in game ex it just goes back to gameex. runitgame.bat chcp 65001 D: CD "D:\Games\emulated\Taito Type X\Shortcuts" "Battle Fantasia.lnk" taskkill /im xpadder.exe /f log gameex.ini attached I am baffled now as I have tried everthing over the last 2 days to get this working in game ex. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks GameEx.ini

Ah I should have shown whats in that .bat. I use this .bat in conjunction with any emu that needs keyboard mapped to pad, so xpadder.bat is just there to run and load my default profile, see below @echo off cd /D D:\games\Ultils\xpadder\ start "" xpadder.exe "xbox360 P1" "xbox360 P2" /M @echo on I just tried moving the "also launch" string to launch before but the emu fails to load with this. This rings a bell actually as to why I never used launch before because I could not get my .bat files working in it.

Thanks so much for that, it works perfect now. I will mark this thread as resolved as I have 99% of my emulators working in 64 bit now. Thanks again.

Thanks, The controls work perfect outside game ex but when its launched from game ex the only buttons that work is the directional controls. I use xpadder in conjunction with this so the keys are not mapped directly to my controller. gameex.ini attached log runitgame.bat chcp 65001 D: CD "D:\Games\emulated\Atari 7800" ProSystem.exe -Fullscreen 1 -MenuEnabled 0 "C:\Users\Ultima\AppData\Local\Temp\Unzipped7-Zip\Double Dragon (1989) (Activision) (PAL).a78" taskkill /im xpadder.exe /f GameEx.ini

Sorry to bring back an old topic but I have something to add to this as I have the same issue (would prefer to stay away from mess as I always have issues with that.) The reason this does not work from command line is because there is a direct input error that occurs when run like this, see below prosystem.log file [Sat Oct 06 18:20:02 2012][ERROR] Direct sound has not been initialized. [Sat Oct 06 18:20:02 2012][ERROR] Direct draw has not been initialized. [Sat Oct 06 18:20:02 2012][ERROR] Direct draw offscreen surface is invalid. [Sat Oct 06 18:20:02 2012][INFO ] Opening cartridge file C:\Users\Ultima\AppData\Local\Temp\Unzipped7-Zip\3D Asteroids (1987) (Atari) (Prototype).a78 [Sat Oct 06 18:20:02 2012][INFO ] It is not a valid zip file: C:\Users\Ultima\AppData\Local\Temp\Unzipped7-Zip\3D Asteroids (1987) (Atari) (Prototype).a78 [Sat Oct 06 18:20:02 2012][INFO ] Accessing database ProSystem.dat [Sat Oct 06 18:20:20 2012][ERROR] Direct sound has not been initialized. [Sat Oct 06 18:20:20 2012][ERROR] Direct input has not been initialized. If anyone has a fix for this it would be great, Thanks

Is this a part of game ex & if so where do I find it (sorry if its in an obvious place, I cant seem to find it)

ok I got a biggie here. The following SSF setup worked perfect in the 32bit setup Advanced Emulator setup - Launch before cmd /c "D:\Games\Ultils\xpadder\SSFXpadderandLaunch.bat "[rompath]\[romfile]" SSFXpadderandLaunch.bat contents @ECHO OFF ::Mounts Image "C:\Program Files\DAEMON Tools Lite\dtlite.exe" -mount 0,%1 ::Launch Xpadder CD /D "D:\games\Ultils\xpadder" start "" Xpadder.exe "SSF P1" "SSF P2" /M Advanced Emulator setup - launch after start "" "D:\Games\emulated\sega saturn\SSF_012_beta\deamon tools and xpadder exit.bat" deamon tools and xpadder exit.bat contents @echo off C: CD "C:\Program Files\DAEMON Tools Lite\" dtlite.exe -unmount 0 Tskill xpadder Exit Now the problem is Deamon tools is not mounting the image at all. If I mount the image manually before starting game ex all works ok. I think its to do with my command line but its odd this works in 32 bit and not 64 bit. Sorry for the wall of text but I have a very complex setup with ssf and I would love to get this working the same way as I had in 32 bit windows. runitgame.bat chcp 65001 D: CD "D:\Games\emulated\sega saturn\SSF_012_beta" cmd /c "D:\Games\Ultils\xpadder\SSFXpadderandLaunch.bat "D:\Games\ROMs\Sega Saturn\Fighter's Megamix (U).mds"" SSF.exe start "" "D:\Games\emulated\sega saturn\SSF_012_beta\deamon tools and xpadder exit.bat" log gameex.ini attached Thanks in advance guys **EDIT** Just realised the deamon tools path is different in 64 bit windows i.e C:/program files (x86)/deamon tools lite This now works perfectly. just needed to update paths in my .bat files Thanks GameEx.ini

Minor issue this time. Since upgrading to 64 bit I notice in most my emu's when launched I get the mouse cursoe in the middle of the screen which I am sure never used to happen. I looked in advanced config and found no options to change this. Has it moved somewhere else? Thanks in advance

You da boss. The below code worked fine, I guess tskill does not work in 64bit windows? taskkill /im xpadder.exe /f On to the next

Thanks again guys it worked a charm. I have found another issue again lol. whenever I launch any emulator I have xpadder load with a set config along side, the setup is like this Also launch D:\Games\ultils\xpadder\xpadder.bat xpadder.bat @echo off cd /D D:\games\ultils\xpadder\ start "" xpadder.exe "xbox360 P1" "xbox360 P2" /M @echo on Everything above this line works fine. The issue I have is Launch After Launch After tskill xpadder This is not killing xpadder when I exit the emu. I have opened command and typed this in when xpadder is running (also works with tskill.exe xpadder) and it kills xpadder. Game ex is running the command, see runitbat below runitgame.bat chcp 65001 D: CD "D:\Games\emulated\Atari 7800" ProSystem.exe -Fullscreen 1 -MenuEnabled 0 "C:\Users\Ultima\AppData\Local\Temp\Unzipped7-Zip\Double Dragon (1989) (Activision) (PAL).a78" tskill xpadder Again I will be greatful of your infinite wisdom log GameEx.ini

Thanks for the input guys. I have yet another issue now. I have noticed that emulators that have roms in .7z format are no longer selectable in game ex, All I can do is view the games in a list but the option to select/play them is greyed out. Now I know you used to be able to enable 7z support this via the old setup wizard but I cant find this setting in the new one (see attached) I am a registered user by the way so its not to do with that. Thanks

Ah I installed the shark codecs the wrong way. I will start that bit again but as it stands game ex is working due to that theme change I did. Not sure why I had the error but its working now. I will let you know if I get any more issues configuring the other emus. Thanks

Thanks Adultery your on to something. I just changed the theme to a basic one and it loaded. Thing is I installed the 64 bit shark codec and I still got the error. I am trying to use the dark champion theme I made and there are no videos in it but something in the theme gameex does not like. Do you have any other ideas? I will tinker some more on this *Edit* I loaded the theme from within game ex and the theme and mame work perfect???? weird. I have another issue though cosmetic. The main menu in the theme has changed from scrolling up/down to left/right with huge icons. Any idea what happened there? ** Another Edit ** Found the "change view" button. On with thye other emus now

I promise it runs outside game ex. I dont have the mameui64.exe but I have mame64.exe and when I run that (after configuring a mame.ini for rom paths etc) I am able to play games no issue. The reason I point to another mame folder for gameex is to get the artwork and other bits that I dont have in this new instalation. Also this error is exactly the same as when I used mame(32 bit) before which was working before I upgraded to 64bit windows. I notice a lot has changed in gameex since version 11.x could it be a setting I have missed somewhere in gameex? Thanks