Schreibi34 Posted January 11, 2023 Share Posted January 11, 2023 Same here! The one thing i noticed is that GOT has a longer loading time then the rest of the tables. On my system when i start GOT it will show the loading image, then after a few seconds "Loading" disappears (black screen), and then about 6-8 sec. later the loading image will pop up again! Table will start under the loading image. After about 20 sec. the image will disappear again and the desktop / editor will show up! Alt-Tab and the table is showing. For all tables that are working, they all start before the loading image is showing up for the 2nd time! This is also happening when using table images instead of loading images! I really believe that it would work if the loading screen would only show up once! @scutters @grunger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike_da_Spike Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 6 hours ago, Schreibi34 said: Same here! The one thing i noticed is that GOT has a longer loading time then the rest of the tables. On my system when i start GOT it will show the loading image, then after a few seconds "Loading" disappears (black screen), and then about 6-8 sec. later the loading image will pop up again! Table will start under the loading image. After about 20 sec. the image will disappear again and the desktop / editor will show up! Alt-Tab and the table is showing. For all tables that are working, they all start before the loading image is showing up for the 2nd time! This is also happening when using table images instead of loading images! I really believe that it would work if the loading screen would only show up once! @scutters @grunger Please attach your log.txt after reproducing the issues Also attach your pinballx.ini. Mynloading video is launching directly after launching a table, visual pinball is launching in the background and when game is fully launched, the loading media is removed and table focus is set. If you dont have loading media, you will not have a seamless transistion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schreibi34 Posted January 12, 2023 Author Share Posted January 12, 2023 Will do at the weekend! Thanks Mike! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike_da_Spike Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 Do you have the option "hide backglass " unchecked for these tables ? I noticed that sometime the focus will go to the backglass media when table is launching and focus will be lost as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schreibi34 Posted January 14, 2023 Author Share Posted January 14, 2023 @Mike_da_Spike So here are the files! log.txt PinballX.ini Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike_da_Spike Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 2 hours ago, Schreibi34 said: @Mike_da_Spike So here are the files! log.txt 3.52 kB · 0 downloads PinballX.ini 7 kB · 0 downloads Thanks. I see the following in your log PinMame Not detected. Potentially loading DMD image/video Do you have "hide dmd" unchecked ? Looks like the game starts, and focus is set to dmd because of this. Try to check this box (i thought it uses flex dmd, right?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scutters Posted January 15, 2023 Share Posted January 15, 2023 @Schreibi34Do you run VPX in exclusive fullscreen, and if so if you turn that off do does GOT then launch without any focus issues (as it does for @grunger)? If i had the issue i'd be tempted to play around with the GOT table script too, maybe move the DMD_Init call to the top of the Table1_Init (to try force the flex dmd to initialise before the table). That might help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schreibi34 Posted January 15, 2023 Author Share Posted January 15, 2023 Thanks guys! All boxes are checked for all tables. So everything is "hidden". My setup is only images (PF + BG), sound and topper videos if available! That's it! Yes, i'm running VPX in FES. I haven't tried windowed yet because it's not an option for me. I doubt that GOT would run smooth on my system! Every table starts fine when it starts while the first "loading" screen is shown. It's also OK when it starts while the screen is black ("loading" disappeared). The 2nd "loading" screen is what steals the focus. When does your table start @Mike_da_Spike? Does your setup start the table while the screen is still black? Could you check that with the standard "loading" screen (no video)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike_da_Spike Posted January 15, 2023 Share Posted January 15, 2023 I will check tomorrow morning and will create a video from it, so you can see. I normally use loading videos, but will check with the default loading screen image. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike_da_Spike Posted January 16, 2023 Share Posted January 16, 2023 @Schreibi34Here's a video from my system. I use a real DMD, so didn't capture that. I renamed my "loading videos" folder, so it uses the Loading images folder. During Video, you see during loading 2 times a black screen. Thats not what I see on the cabinet. I just see the loading image and that will switch to game. Game is focused directly 2023-01-16 06-24-11.mp4 and here is a video how I see it on the cabinet (not recorded at the same time): Small.mp4 Comparing the log file, I see a difference with FES Your logfile isn't doing the FES hack : As my log shows : 06:34:49.74 16-1-2023: Could not find a part of the path 'C:\Pinball\PinballX\Media\Loading Videos'. 06:34:49.88 16-1-2023: C:\Pinball\Visual pinball\VPinballX.exe -play "C:\Pinball\Visual pinball\Tables\VPX\Game of Thrones LE (Stern 2015) VPW v1.0.1.vpx" -ExtMinimized 06:34:49.90 16-1-2023: C:\Pinball\PinballX\vpauto.exe 06:34:54.20 16-1-2023: VPX Full screen exclusive mode detected 06:34:54.20 16-1-2023: VPX Full screen exclusive focus hack set 06:35:14.15 16-1-2023: Exit System Control Pressed But I don't see the message of the VPINMAME not detected in my log EDIT : For testing, try to swap your visual Pinball system with your system 2 (VP9 vs VPX), as system 2 doesn't have the option for FSE hack When setting FSE hack in the Visual Pinball System, the System 2 that is set to Visual Pinball as system type will use the FSE hack as well. What I don't understand, is that you launch PinballX and rotate the screen, during game launch, you rotate the screen again. During PinballX launch, I set my screen to portrait mode, PinballX set rotation to 270 , and leave for most systems the system alone. VP is se to use portrait mode as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schreibi34 Posted January 16, 2023 Author Share Posted January 16, 2023 Thanks Mike! Loading does not look like that on my system! Your start sequence is nice and clean! I always thought the black screen is part of the loading process! But apparently it's not! I will try the FSE hack next! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike_da_Spike Posted January 16, 2023 Share Posted January 16, 2023 7 minutes ago, Schreibi34 said: Thanks Mike! Loading does not look like that on my system! Your start sequence is nice and clean! I always thought the black screen is part of the loading process! But apparently it's not! I will try the FSE hack next! I modified the above post a bit when you replied to it. Check that as well. I think you see black screens because of the rotations you do. When I use Loading videos I have a seamless transition 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schreibi34 Posted January 16, 2023 Author Share Posted January 16, 2023 The reason i have to do the rotation is that i build the base of my tabletop cab before i knew about VPX and PinballX! The Monitor is mounted 180° upside down to what VPX / Pinball X wants (bottom of the monitor to the left??). Maybe a newer PBX allows me to compensate that! The last time i tried to get that right was maybe 6 years ago! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draco1962 Posted January 16, 2023 Share Posted January 16, 2023 There is only so much you can expect the frontend to do. Maybe: - Try using a program like iRotate to flip the display? - Flip the monitor 180 deg right-side up? Just a few suggestions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schreibi34 Posted January 16, 2023 Author Share Posted January 16, 2023 I do use a rotation program and everything works great for 99.9% of my tables! But something is different with GOT! It's the only table that looses focus! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike_da_Spike Posted January 16, 2023 Share Posted January 16, 2023 1 hour ago, Schreibi34 said: The reason i have to do the rotation is that i build the base of my tabletop cab before i knew about VPX and PinballX! The Monitor is mounted 180° upside down to what VPX / Pinball X wants (bottom of the monitor to the left??). Maybe a newer PBX allows me to compensate that! The last time i tried to get that right was maybe 6 years ago! My bottom of my monitor is also on the left if I stand in front of my cabinet (see the video made with my phone) PinbvallX is starting with 270 degrees and no need to rotate the screen during VPX launch (see screenshots of my VP settings). I think the checkbox in VP is the "Use always FS backdrop .."just under the resolution part. Give this a try and don't rotate your screen during launch of VP (just not enable the start start) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schreibi34 Posted January 16, 2023 Author Share Posted January 16, 2023 Sorry, what i was trying to say is that left is correct but mine is to the right! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike_da_Spike Posted January 16, 2023 Share Posted January 16, 2023 It doesn't matter how you mou ted your TV /monitor. Within windows you can set it to any direction as well just try to set the tv during launch of pinballx with a startup to portrait mode, where the monitor is 180 degrees rotated. Set in pinballx settings to rotate 270 degrees (this should show the screen normal when you are in front of the cab). You wont have to rotate during launch of vp (If setting the settings in vp as I showed). This will also show your loading images/videos in the correct position during table launch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schreibi34 Posted January 16, 2023 Author Share Posted January 16, 2023 OK, thanks! I'll try that tomorrow! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schreibi34 Posted January 17, 2023 Author Share Posted January 17, 2023 So, i completely removed the display rotation! That newer versions of PBX seem to have already ignored the display rotation program. Screen orientation works as it should without it! Last time i fooled around with the screen rotation was about 5 years ago! But no luck with the focus! It's still "Loading" - black screen - "Loading" then table starts under "Loading" and after about 10secs the desktop / editor is shown on the PF monitor. Alt/Tab brings the focus to the table! If you see anything in the new log files, let me know! Thanks guys! log.txt SetupWizard.log XDMDlog.txt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike_da_Spike Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 17:22:09.67 17.01.2023: C:\Pinball\Visual Pinball\vpinballx.exe /play -"C:\Pinball\Visual Pinball\Tables\Game of Thrones LE (Stern 2015) VPW v1.0.2.vpx" 17:22:09.69 17.01.2023: C:\Pinball\PinballX\vpauto.exe 17:22:15.24 17.01.2023: VPX Full screen exclusive mode detected 17:22:15.24 17.01.2023: VPX Full screen exclusive focus hack set 17:22:39.33 17.01.2023: Visual Pinball Player window foreground: 30 Log looks much better and cannot see an issue that causes the focus issue. I only see a minus sign before your table location and name, but this should not cause an issue. Not sure if you want to try the following (i will test this tommorow as well, as I have a strange feeling about this): Can you switch system "visual pinball" and "system 2"? Your visual pinball system is pointing to vp9 and system 2 to vpx. I will explain below how to accomplish this. Best is to copy your complete pinballx directory to another location as backup, so yiu can always switch back to your working pinballx setup. Disable your system 2 and create a new system for vp9 Rename the "pinballx\media\visual pinball" to the new system name of vp9 Also copy your pinball\database\visual pinball\visual pinball.xml to the new database directory for vp9. Also rename the xml to the new directory name. Now change your visual pinball system to the setup for vpx. Copy the "pinballx\media\visual pinball x" to "pinballx\media\visual pinball" and copy your "pinball\database\visual pinball x\visual pinball x.xml to pinball\database\visual pinball\visual pinball.xml" If you want your statistics updated as wel, you neec to wait until I'm at the cabinet again ( around 4.30 cet tommorow) This is all on top of my head and hope it make sense and fixes your issue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schreibi34 Posted January 17, 2023 Author Share Posted January 17, 2023 Yeah, it all started with DX9 and i added VPX as system 2. I will try that but it might take a week or two before i can report back! We go skiing next week! Once again thanks for your max effort on my little problem! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schreibi34 Posted February 5, 2023 Author Share Posted February 5, 2023 @Mike_da_Spike Hey Mike, i finally had some time to try what you suggested but no luck! Turning system2 into Visual Pinball had no effect! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike_da_Spike Posted February 5, 2023 Share Posted February 5, 2023 1 hour ago, Schreibi34 said: @Mike_da_Spike Hey Mike, i finally had some time to try what you suggested but no luck! Turning system2 into Visual Pinball had no effect! Odd. Can you post your new log and setti gs file ? Just to see if something is not correct? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schreibi34 Posted February 7, 2023 Author Share Posted February 7, 2023 OK, thanks again @Mike_da_Spike! Sorry for the delay! Here are the log files + ini: log.txt PinballX.ini SetupWizard.log XDMDlog.txt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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