Loading Screen disappears - VPX Still Loading

[jdsabin1]

Hi gang - using the latest version of PinballX in my cabinet and for tables that take a while to load, ultimately the loading screen I am using will go away/time-out/etc and then you see the Visual PInball loading window doing it's thing. It does ultimately load fine and this doesn't exhibit this behavior on all tables but on the longer load tables it does (noticed it on the new Harry potter table today). Am I missing a setting somewhere perhaps that will force the loading screen to stay on the screen until a table has loaded or ... ? TIA! 

[Tom Speirs]

Please post the log file (after loading an affected game).

Thanks.

[jdsabin1]

Thanks. Here is the logfile after I started Harry Potter. Again, it does ultimately load but the loading screen I am using disappears and you then see the VPX window loading. Thank you. 

15:11:11.23  2/9/2020:  PinballX - Version 4.12 x64
15:11:11.33  2/9/2020:  Windows 10 Home 64-bit (16GB)
15:11:11.33  2/9/2020:  Loading Settings
15:11:11.35  2/9/2020:  Initialize Component
15:11:11.37  2/9/2020:  Initialize Display
15:11:11.42  2/9/2020:  Testing Flash engine.
15:11:14.16  2/9/2020:  Loading PlugIns
15:11:14.49  2/9/2020:  Loaded Plugin:"DirectOutput PinballX Plugin" Version 1 By Swisslizard
15:11:14.53  2/9/2020:  PlugIn Did not initialize. Disabling PlugIn
15:11:14.78  2/9/2020:  Created DirectX BackGlass Window
15:11:14.78  2/9/2020:  Looking for startup images
15:11:15.06  2/9/2020:  Hiding Cursor
15:11:15.13  2/9/2020:  Hiding Taskbar
15:11:15.13  2/9/2020:  Getting GPU and CPU Information
15:11:15.14  2/9/2020:  CPU:  Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-8700K CPU @ 3.70GHz
15:11:15.14  2/9/2020:  6 cores, 12 threads
15:11:15.14  2/9/2020:  GPU 1: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1070 Ti
15:11:15.14  2/9/2020:  Displays: 3
15:11:15.14  2/9/2020:  Loading Font
15:11:15.14  2/9/2020:  Load Game List
15:11:15.17  2/9/2020:  Loading Database: Pinball FX3
15:11:15.19  2/9/2020:  Loading Database: Visual Pinball
15:11:15.21  2/9/2020:  Initial load gamelist took: 31ms
15:11:15.27  2/9/2020:  Finding and matching artwork and videos
15:11:15.37  2/9/2020:  Also Creating and Caching Wheels for Overlays
15:11:15.52  2/9/2020:  Took: 250ms
15:11:15.52  2/9/2020:  Loading Game Statistics and Scores
15:11:15.81  2/9/2020:  Main display running full screen windowed.
15:11:15.89  2/9/2020:  Loading Surfaces
15:11:15.97  2/9/2020:  Finished Loading Surfaces
15:11:15.97  2/9/2020:  Initialize Audio
15:11:16.22  2/9/2020:  Set Keyboard Controls
15:11:16.22  2/9/2020:  Initialize Joystick
15:11:16.26  2/9/2020:  1 Joystick Attached
15:11:16.26  2/9/2020:  Started
18:21:38.69  2/9/2020:  Launch System
18:21:38.69  2/9/2020:  Hide Backglass
18:21:38.69  2/9/2020:  Waiting for threads
18:21:38.90  2/9/2020:  Disposing display
18:21:39.29  2/9/2020:  Writing ScreenRes.txt
18:21:39.29  2/9/2020:  C:\Temp\startpinsoundstudio.bat 
18:21:39.33  2/9/2020:  C:\Pinball\Visual Pinball\VPinballX.exe /play -"C:\Pinball\Visual Pinball\Tables\hpgf-049-DOF.vpx"
18:21:39.35  2/9/2020:  C:\PinballX\vpauto.exe 
18:21:43.18  2/9/2020:  VPX Full screen exclusive mode detected
18:21:43.18  2/9/2020:  VPX Full screen exclusive focus hack set
18:40:23.90  2/9/2020:  Exit System Control Pressed
18:40:27.39  2/9/2020:  C:\Temp\taskkill.exe /IM PinSoundStudio.exe /T /F
18:40:31.51  2/9/2020:  Created DirectX BackGlass Window
18:40:31.76  2/9/2020:  Main display running full screen windowed.
18:40:36.68  2/9/2020:  Exiting
18:40:36.69  2/9/2020:  Showing Taskbar
18:40:36.69  2/9/2020:  Unhiding Mouse Cursor
18:40:36.80  2/9/2020:  Disposing Plugins
18:40:36.81  2/9/2020:  Saving Settings
18:40:36.81  2/9/2020:  Waiting for Online Thread
18:40:39.63  2/9/2020:  Bye
 

 

[Mike_da_Spike]

How is this table loading outside PBX ?

Looks like it only takes 8 seconds when visual pinball x is loaded

4 sec for pinsound and another 4 sec for visual pinball itself

[Tom Speirs]

Is it just this one table?

[Tom Speirs]

Can you disable the fullscreen hack setting please. It may be causing problems.

[jdsabin1]

Sure will. It's not only this table but others that are larger in size. I see it on the Stranger Things table as well off the top of my head. With the Harry Potter table, the loading png stays on the screen for about 30 seconds, then it disappears and I see the VPX window (loading message on the bottom and interestingly enough the message 'not responding' in the title bar). Anyway, it does eventually load after another 90 seconds that way (I timed it with a stop watch last night). I will go down and test again with the fullscreen hack turned off and report back. 

[Tom Speirs]

It sounds like its doing what it is supposed to actually.

Maybe something is going on with your setup if it takes 90 seconds to load a table?

What have the tables got in common? Popper? DOF?

[jdsabin1]

Update: I disabled the fullscreen hack setting in the settings (in the visual pinball section) and it made no difference. In the Harry potter table the loading image stays up for 30 seconds then disappears, leaving the VPX loading window which then takes 90 seconds or so. I have 225 tables loaded, a combination of VPX and FX3 tables. I loaded a few of the ones I know are longer to load and saw the same behavior for Cuphead, Twilight Zone, Stranger Things and Harry Potter. FWIW - I have excluded Windows Defender for darn near all of my folders just in case and it is the latest version of Windows 10 (1909). I don't use any DOF stuff. Three monitors, latest Nvidia drivers.As you can see above, I also call a simple Windows batch file that opens PinSoundStudio (for the tables that do use it) and then close it when I exit. Not sure that could be causing this but I can certainly remove that just to see. Open to any other suggestions. Thanks again. 

[Tom Speirs]

Like I said its normal for PinballX to do that. If tables are getting bigger in general and taking forever to load I will have to look at another solution. Right now its by design though as far as PinballX goes so there is no quick fix unless it is something om your end.

[jdsabin1]

Got it. I will also check into load times for the actual tables in case there is something else amiss that will get them loading a little quicker. Thanks! 

[Draco1962]

Are you using Pinup Player? Asking as I believe that Terry Red just released Harry Potter Pup Pack.

[scutters]

90 secs seems really slow to me, are you on a HD or SSD?

Might be worth trying to add /minimized to your visual pinball launch parameters to hide the VP editor

[jdsabin1]

12 hours ago, scutters said:

90 secs seems really slow to me, are you on a HD or SSD?

Might be worth trying to add /minimized to your visual pinball launch parameters to hide the VP editor

SSD and it's a very beefy machine so not sure what to think. I'll check load times running it standalone in VPX and then the same thing in PinballX to see what the difference is. Great idea starting it minimized. 

[bushav]

Man, looking at his log I see his PinballX DOF plugin is "not initializing" just like mine was doing the last two days.  

Lane

[scutters]

On 2/13/2020 at 10:36 PM, bushav said:

Man, looking at his log I see his PinballX DOF plugin is "not initializing" just like mine was doing the last two days.  

Lane

Yep, but he's not using DOF so i'm not sure why that plugin is enabled?

@jdsabin1 did you check load times outside pinballx?