[RESOLVED] Gaming Stutter using pinballx

[pauleaglereasons]

Hi, firstly I must apologise for not knowing how forums work and that this topic may have been covered earlier but I can't find it. I have managed to finally download and play 24 tables in a set up before I finally put it all in a cabinet.The issue I have is where playing the tables through Pinballx 75% of the tables become unplayable due to ball.lag. The same tables when launched through visual pinball play 100% perfect. Please help before I give up on the project.....:(

[Draco1962]

You probably need to give us more to go on. Please submit copies of your log.txt and pinballx.ini files for starters. Click on the PinballX How to ask for help link in my sig for instructions on where to find them and attach them in reply to this thread.

Also, it might help to know the version(s) of visual pinball and the tables affected.

[rtkiii]

As Draco states we need a bit more detail.

Typically if it is playing fine in VP then it is a setting you have set in PBX.  Be patient you will find your way...PBX is a great frontend once everything is running as expected.

[Luddite]

Hello. I'm new to PinballX and Visual Pinball in general. I've just set up a new rig for the purpose. I'm experiencing the same problem as the OP: The ball is jerky and the flippers feel laggy when I start my tables (Scared Stiff and Bram Stoker's Dracula) through PinballX. When started from VPX everything is smooth as silk. Any help appreciated. The PinballX seems fantastic frontend and I'd really like to get it up and running properly.

My PinballX.ini:

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[Display]
Monitor=0
rotate=0
Windowed=False
WindowWidth=480
WindowHeight=720
WindowX=0
WindowY=65
PlayFieldBrightness=230
WheelTextColor=ffffffff
WheelTextOutlineColor=ff000000
InfoTextColor=ffffffff
InfoTextOutlineColor=ff000000
FilterTextColor=ffffffff
FilterTextOutlineColor=ff000000
MenuColor=ffffa500
[BackGlass]
monitor=1
x=0
y=0
width=1920
height=1080
AutoPositionB2S=True
[DMD]
Enabled=False
monitor=2
x=0
y=0
width=900
height=300
AutoPositionPinMAME=False
[FileSystem]
EnableFileMatching=True
[Interface]
DesktopModeEnabled=False
EnableAdditionalDetail=True
ShowSystem=True
ShowRatings=True
WheelOverlay=1
[Audio]
StreamVolume=10
SampleVolume=10
PlaySoundInVideos=True
[Startup]
playsound=False
playvideo=False
StartWithWindows=Yes
[KeyCodes]
quit=27
left=160
right=161
select=49
rotate=82
pageleft=33
pageright=34
exitemulator=27
ingame=80
screenshot=83
screenshotbackglass=66
instructions=73
volumedown=109
volumeup=107
credit=53
plunger=13
[JoyCodes]
quit=10
left=0
right=1
select=2
rotate=3
pageleft=4
pageright=5
exitemulator=6
ingame=13
instructions=14
[Text]
Line1=Free Play
Line2=Press Start
Featuring=Featuring
Tables=Tables
PlayGame=Play Game
Instructions=Instructions
Information=Information
Flyer=Flyer
Gameplay=Gameplay
Tutorial=Tutorial
ExitGame=Exit Game
ReturnToGame=Return to Game
Return=Return
Exit=Exit
Shutdown=Shutdown
[FuturePinball]
Enabled=False
WorkingPath=h:\-PINBALL-\-FUTURE PINBALL-
TablePath=h:\-PINBALL-\-FUTURE PINBALL-\Tables
Executable=Future Pinball.exe
Parameters=/open "[TABLEPATH]\[TABLEFILE]" /play /exit /arcaderender
LaunchBeforeEnabled=false
LaunchBeforeWorkingPath=
LaunchBeforeExecutable=notepad.exe
LaunchBeforeHideWindow=False
LaunchBeforeWaitForExit=True
LaunchAfterEnabled=False
LaunchAfterWorkingPath=
LaunchAfterExecutable=notepad.exe
LaunchAfterHideWindow=False
LaunchAfterWaitForExit=True
MouseClickFocus=True
[VisualPinball]
Enabled=True
WorkingPath=C:\Visual Pinball
TablePath=C:\Visual Pinball\Tables
Executable=VPinballX.exe
Parameters=/play -"[TABLEPATH]\[TABLEFILE]"
LaunchBeforeEnabled=false
LaunchBeforeWorkingPath=
LaunchBeforeExecutable=notepad.exe
LaunchBeforeHideWindow=False
LaunchBeforeWaitForExit=True
LaunchAfterEnabled=False
LaunchAfterWorkingPath=
LaunchAfterExecutable=notepad.exe
LaunchAfterHideWindow=False
LaunchAfterWaitForExit=True
AutoConfigure=False
[ExitScreen]
Enabled=True
EnableExit=True
EnableShutdown=True
[StartupProgram]
Enabled=false
WorkingPath=
Executable=notepad.exe
Paramaters=
HideWindow=true
WaitForExit=false
[ExitProgram]
Enabled=false
WorkingPath=
Executable=notepad.exe
Paramaters=
HideWindow=False
WaitForExit=
[AttractMode]
Enabled=True
Timer=1
ShowFor=15
MuteAudio=False
[System_1]
Name=MAME
Enabled=True
WorkingPath=C:\MAME
TablePath=C:\MAME\roms
Executable=mamep64.exe
Parameters=[TABLEFILE]
SystemType=0
[AutoExit]
Enabled=False
Minutes=10
[Login]
Enabled=False
[PinballFX2]
Enabled=False
WorkingPath=C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam
Executable=steam.exe
Parameters=-applaunch 226980 [TABLEFILE]
Process=Pinball FX2.exe
Rotate=False
WaitFor=20
[Internal]
lastwheelcachematchsize=-1123
lastselected=Scared Stiff (Bally 1996)Scared Stiff (Bally 1996)VisualPinball
filter_year=
filter_company=
filter_custom=
filtername=Tables
lastwheelcachematchsize2=55530
[PinballArcade]
WorkingPath=C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam
Executable=steam.exe
Parameters=-applaunch 238260
Process=PinballArcade.exe
WaitForSelect=50
[GameListManager]
onlinemode=false
[RealDMD]
EnableColor=True
Color=ffff1414
[SetupWizard]
EmuPath1=C:\Emulators
AssetPath1=C:\Assets
RomPath1=C:\Roms
DefaultPathPrompt=True
DownloadDatabasePrompt=True
DownloadEmulatorPrompt=True
WizardMode=1
CustomArray=
SearchArray=
SavePosition=False
SectionIndex=16
SearchText=
EmulatorIndex=0
EmulatorGroupIndex=0
DaphneIndex=0
HTMLAppsIndex=0
ExternalAppsIndex=0
RadioStationsIndex=0
NewsFeedsIndex=0
MappedDrivesIndex=0
SystemIndex=0
ShowPanel=True
FontSize=1
WindowState=0
WindowSize=913,872
WindowLocation=109,474

 

And a log.txt from a laggy session:

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15:01:41.4  3/14/2017:  PinballX - Version 2.31
15:01:41.6  3/14/2017:  Windows 10 Pro 64-bit (7.9GB)
15:01:41.6  3/14/2017:  Loading Settings
15:01:41.6  3/14/2017:  Initialize Component
15:01:41.7  3/14/2017:  Initialize Display
15:01:43.0  3/14/2017:  Loading PlugIns
15:01:43.4  3/14/2017:  Hiding Cursor
15:01:43.4  3/14/2017:  Hiding Taskbar
15:01:43.7  3/14/2017:  CPU:  Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-7400 CPU @ 3.00GHz
15:01:43.7  3/14/2017:  GPU 1: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050 Ti
15:01:43.7  3/14/2017:  Displays: 1
15:01:43.7  3/14/2017:  Load Game List
15:01:43.7  3/14/2017:  Loading Database: Visual Pinball
15:01:43.7  3/14/2017:  Loading Database: MAME
15:01:43.7  3/14/2017:  Finding and matching artwork and videos
15:01:43.8  3/14/2017:  Loading Game Statistics and Scores
15:01:44.2  3/14/2017:  Loading Surfaces
15:01:44.3  3/14/2017:  Finished Loading Surfaces
15:01:44.3  3/14/2017:  Initialize Audio
15:01:44.5  3/14/2017:  Set Keyboard Controls
15:01:44.5  3/14/2017:  Initialize Joystick
15:01:44.6  3/14/2017:  No Joysticks Attached
15:01:44.6  3/14/2017:  Started
15:01:56.7  3/14/2017:  Launch System
15:01:56.7  3/14/2017:  Waiting for threads
15:01:56.7  3/14/2017:  Disposing display
15:01:57.6  3/14/2017:  C:\Visual Pinball\VPinballX.exe /play -"C:\Visual Pinball\Tables\Scared Stiff (Bally 1996).vpx"
15:01:58.9  3/14/2017:  C:\PinballX\vpauto.exe 
15:02:12.7  3/14/2017:  Hidden Visual Pinball Editor Window
15:02:14.3  3/14/2017:  Found PinMAME ROM: ss_15.nv
15:03:10.7  3/14/2017:  Exit System Control Pressed
15:03:24.3  3/14/2017:  Exiting
15:03:24.3  3/14/2017:  Showing Taskbar
15:03:24.3  3/14/2017:  Unhiding Mouse Cursor
15:03:24.3  3/14/2017:  Disposing Plugins
15:03:24.3  3/14/2017:  Saving Settings
15:03:24.3  3/14/2017:  Bye

 

Anything more I can tell, just ask. Thanks.

[Carny_Priest]

1. Try running VPX using exclusive full screen setting.

2. Try running PinballX display as windowed, full screen

3. Do you run VPX using DOF?

4. Have you tried to see what happens if you played a non-VPM table (like an EM recreation)?

5. What NVidia settings do you use?

6. What AA settings do you use in VPX? In other words, even though you have a fancy new card, you still may not be able to get away with Brute force 4X AA on some of the larger tables and you will need to walk your AA settings back a bit.

[Luddite]

18 hours ago, Carny_Priest said:

2. Try running PinballX display as windowed, full screen

Thanks for helping out. The point 2. was the key. Changing the config "Full screen windowed" from NO to YES and all the lagginess is gone. I also learned how to get FPS readings out. With this setting as NO the FPS drops in Scared Stiff from about 190 -> 40. 190 is also what I get when run without PinballX.

[pauleaglereasons]

Thanks to you all for your suggestions. Carny_Priest point 2 cured my issue. Now runs windowed in both pinball x and visual pinball. Will now build the cabinet. Keep the good work up guys