[RESOLVED] ACDC (Stern) crashing PinballX

**Scooby1** · October 7, 2015

Hey guys,

I have many tables now launching smoothly from PinballX and have really been enjoying playing pinball. There are so many great tables and PinballX is awesome.

The one table I am having an issue with is ACDC (Stern). This table plays great directly from Visual Pinball, however when I launch it from PinballX, it crashes. This is the only table that does this.

I thought maybe it was an issue with how my Stern tables are set up, however I don't have any issues with other Stern tables from PinballX, such as Transformers, X-men and 24.

Attached is the crash box that pops up whenever I launch ACDC from PinballX.

Any ideas what I can do to fix this?

Thanks in advance!

**Draco1962** · October 7, 2015

Have you tried upgrading to VP 9.9.1? Also, we need to see the log.txt (right after the error) and pinballx.ini files to assist. Thanks!

**Scooby1** · October 7, 2015

Thanks Draco. I'll try to get the log and ini posted shortly.

As for VP 9.9.1, the ACDC table is a PM5 table and runs great from my VP PM5.exe directly. All of my other PM5 tables run great from the PM5.exe (from PBX as well).

Do you think running this table in VP 9.9.1 instead of PM5 will work?

**Draco1962** · October 7, 2015

Not sure as I do not run that system currently. Have you tried installing a fresh copy of that particular table to see if it may just be a problem with the table you have?

**Draco1962** · October 7, 2015

If you search the web for keywords ACDC Stern physmod 5 you will probably find a few threads in the various pinball forums that reference some issues with this table and some recommendations as to what version ROM needs to be used, etc. The issue does not appear to be specific to PinballX from the evidence presented thus far, even if it is working well outside of it. I would think that there would be an issue with all tables if that were the case.

**Scooby1** · October 8, 2015

It may not be an issue specific to PBX. When I delete the nvram file for this table, it launches okay...the first time. After that, if I launch it a second time, it crashes.

I'll poke around to see if there is a fix for this.

Thanks.

**Draco1962** · October 8, 2015

Do you have VP running as adminstrator?

**Scooby1** · October 8, 2015

I checked and I do have VP running as admin. I've been reading and trying everything others have suggested, but none change my issue with launching this one table from PBX. I have tried new versions (were actually the same as what I had) for the rom, dll, pm5, naming structure, made sure zip file is exactly as others have instructed works.

I also now have this table running every time outside of PBX. I even got it to run a couple of successive launches from PBX, but then it crashed again from PBX.

I'm convinced it is a conflict with something within PBX (or my settings are conflicting).

This table is one of my favorites, but if I can't launch it from PBX, it won't ever get played. That would be a shame because it's such an amazing table.

Here are my PBX files and I'm hoping something can be found that I can change.

PBX config:

[Display]
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rotate=270
Windowed=False
windowwidth=480
windowheight=270
windowx=592
windowy=294
PlayFieldBrightness=250
WheelTextColor=ff506f00
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InfoTextColor=ffffffff
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FilterTextOutlineColor=ff000000
MenuColor=ffbbbb00
WheelAutoCrop=False
FullScreenWindowed=True
ShowExitImageFor=2
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monitor=1
x=0
y=0
width=1360
height=768
UseB2S=False
[DMD]
Enabled=True
monitor=2
x=25
y=230
width=1320
height=332
AutoPositionPinMAME=False
UsePinMAME=False
HidePinMAME=False
[FileSystem]
EnableFileMatching=False
[interface]
DesktopModeEnabled=False
EnableAdditionalDetail=True
ShowSystem=True
ShowRatings=False
OneClickLaunch=True
WheelOverlay=2
[Audio]
StreamVolume=40
SampleVolume=40
PlaySoundInVideos=True
[startup]
playsound=False
playvideo=False
StartWithWindows=Yes
[KeyCodes]
quit=69
left=160
right=161
select=13
rotate=82
pageleft=33
pageright=34
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TablePath=D:\Future Pinball\Tables
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LaunchAfterExecutable=notepad.exe
LaunchAfterHideWindow=False
LaunchAfterWaitForExit=True
MouseClickFocus=True
FPRAMPath=D:\Future Pinball\fpRAM
LaunchBeforeParameters=table="[TABLEFILE]" close=1
LaunchAfterParameters=
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WorkingPath=C:\Program Files (x86)\Visual Pinball
TablePath=C:\Program Files (x86)\Visual Pinball\Tables
Executable=VPinball.exe
Parameters=/play -"[TABLEPATH]\[TABLEFILE]"
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LaunchBeforeWorkingPath=
LaunchBeforeExecutable=notepad.exe
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LaunchAfterExecutable=notepad.exe
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LaunchAfterWaitForExit=True
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Enabled=True
EnableExit=True
EnableShutdown=True
ConfirmExitGameTimer=False
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Enabled=false
WorkingPath=
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Paramaters=
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WaitForExit=false
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WorkingPath=
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Paramaters=
HideWindow=False
WaitForExit=
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Enabled=True
Timer=2
ShowFor=30
MuteAudio=False
[system_1]
Name=MAME
Enabled=False
WorkingPath=C:\- EMULATORS -\- MAME -
TablePath=C:\
Executable=mamep64.exe
Parameters=[TABLEFILE]
SystemType=0
LaunchBeforeEnabled=False
LaunchAfterEnabled=False
[AutoExit]
Enabled=True
Minutes=45
[Login]
Enabled=False
[PinballFX2]
Enabled=False
WorkingPath=D:\Steam
Executable=Steam.exe
Parameters=-applaunch 226980 "[TABLEFILE]" < parameter “Tablefile” will launch tables directly>
Process=Pinball FX2
WaitFor=-1
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LaunchBeforeWorkingPath=D:\PinballX
LaunchBeforeExecutable=Pinball_FX2_Borderless_DMD.ahk
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XML:

24

Stern
2009

False
False
False
0

ACDC PhysMod

Stern
2012

False
False
False
0

AC-DC_PhysMod5_Helen_rev.1.1c

ss
False
False
True
0

Attack From Mars

Midway
1995

False
False
True
0

Austin Powers

Stern
2001

False
False
True
0

Avatar

Stern
2010

False
False
True
0

Back to the Future

1990

True
False
True
0

Big Bang Bar

False
False
True
0

Big Buck Hunter

False
False
True
0

Black Rose

Midway
1992

False
False
True
0

Bride of Pinbot

Williams
1991

False
False
True
0

Cactus Canyon

Midway
1998

False
False
True
0

Cirqus Voltaire

Midway
1997

False
False
True
0

Comet

Williams
1985

True
False
True
0

Creature from the Black Lagoon

Williams
1992

False
False
True
0

Earthshaker

Williams
1989

False
False
False
0

Elvira and the Party Monsters

Williams
1989

False
False
False
0

Elvis

Stern
2004

False
False
True
0

F-14 Tomcat (Williams 1987) PhysMod

Williams
1987

False
False
False
0

Fish Tales

Williams
1992

False
False
True
0

Flash Gordon

Bally
1981

False
False
True
0

Funhouse

Williams
1990

False
False
True
0

Getaway Physmod5

Williams
1992

False
False
True
0

Harley Davidson

False
False
True
0

Hook

Data East
1992

False
False
True
0

Hook (Data East 1992)

Data East
1992

False
False
False
4

Indiana Jones

Williams
1993

False
False
True
0

Indiana Jones (Stern 2008)

Stern
2008

False
False
True
3

Jurassic Park

Data East
1993

False
False
True
0

Medieval Madness

Williams
1997

False
False
True
4

Monster Bash

Williams
1998

False
False
True
0

Mystery Castle

Alvin G
1993

False
False
True
0

Oxo

Willams
1973

False
False
True
0

Party Zone

Williams
1991

False
False
False
0

Party Zone - Night PhysMod

Williams
1991

False
False
True
0

Playboy

False
False
False
0

Power Play

Bally
1978

True
False
True
0

QBerts Quest

Gottlieb
1983

True
False
True
0

Red and Ted's Roadshow

Williams
1994

False
False
True
0

Road Race

Gottlieb
1969

False
False
False
0

Scared Stiff

Williams
1996

False
False
True
0

South Park

Sega
1999

False
False
False
0

Star Trek the Next Generation

Williams
1993

False
False
True
0

Star Wars

Data East
1992

False
False
True
0

Starship Troopers

Sega
1997

False
False
False
0

T2 Chrome PhysMod

Williams
1991

False
False
True
0

Tales of the Arabian Nights

Williams
1996

False
False
False
0

Taxi

Williams
1988

False
False
True
0

The Addams Family

Midway
1992

False
False
False
0

The Addams Family - Day

Midway
1992

False
False
True
0

The Addams Family - Night

Midway
1992

False
False
True
0

The Avengers

Stern
2012

False
False
True
0

The Flintstones

Williams
1994

False
False
True
0

The Simpsons

Data East
1990

False
False
True
0

The Simpsons (Data East 1990)

False
False
False
4

Theatre of Magic

Midway
1995

False
False
True
0

Transformers

Stern
2011

False
False
True
0

Tron Legacy

Stern
2011
SS
False
False
True
0

Whitewater

Williams
1993

False
False
False
0

World Cup Soccer

Midway
1994

False
False
False
0

World Poker Tour

Stern
2006

False
False
False
0

WWF Royal Rumble

Data East
1994

False
False
False
0

X-Men

Stern
2012

False
False
True
0

**Jannek** · October 8, 2015

Hey Scooby1,

if this table runs fine outside PBX, this may be an issue with your available resources (ACDC is very hungry for resources...).

You may test if the table runs fine with the "Lite Version" of PBX (you will find it in the same Folder as the regular exe).

This won´t help you in total, because the Lite Version does not show BG and DMD in the PBX menu, but maybe this hint

points you in the direction for a suitable solution.

Kind regards,

Jannek

**Scooby1** · October 8, 2015

Thanks Jannek. I tried the PBX lite version but the ACDC Stern table is still crashing every launch from PBX (regular or lite version). This is the only table that does this.

Here are my system specs:

AMD A10-7850K Radeon R7 Quad Core 3.70 Ghz

Sapphire Dual-X Radeon R9 280 3GB 384-Bit GDDR5 GPU

Gigabyte GA-F2A88XM-D3H FM2+/FM2 AMD A88X 6Gb Motherboard

120GB SSD (C drive)

256GB SSD (D drive)

8GB RAM

Windows 7

From everything I've read, I should have plenty of horse power to run all tables and PBX. Is this correct or do I need more RAM?

If this wasn't such a great table, I might just forget about this one. However, it's one of my favorites so I really want to figure this out and launch it from PBX.

Any other suggestions? I would greatly appreciate it!

**Draco1962** · October 8, 2015

Maybe redownload the table? I am at a loss here. Can you provide your log.txt file from right after the table crashes? That is the only file you haven't provided that might provide a clue.

**Scooby1** · October 9, 2015

Thanks Draco, here is my log. I hope you see something that I need to change (fingers crossed)!

Log:

21:12:52.3 10/8/2015: PinballX - Version 2.04
21:12:52.3 10/8/2015: Windows 7 Home Premium Service Pack 1 64-bit (6.9GB)
21:12:52.3 10/8/2015: Loading Settings
21:12:52.4 10/8/2015: Initialize Component
21:12:52.4 10/8/2015: Initialize Display
21:12:53.5 10/8/2015: Loading PlugIns
21:12:53.5 10/8/2015: Loaded Plugin:"FutureDMD PinballX Stats" Version 1 By GauntletLover
21:12:55.1 10/8/2015: PlugIn: "FutureDMD PinballX Stats" Initialized OK
21:12:55.1 10/8/2015: Using Plugin System Version: 1
21:12:55.1 10/8/2015: Loaded Plugin:"LED Plugin" Version 1 By Tom Speirs
21:12:55.1 10/8/2015: PlugIn Did not initialize. Disabling PlugIn
21:12:55.1 10/8/2015: Loaded Plugin:"QuickLaunch for PinballX" Version 1.0.4 By Adultery
21:12:55.1 10/8/2015: PlugIn: "QuickLaunch for PinballX" Initialized OK
21:12:55.1 10/8/2015: Using Plugin System Version: 1
21:12:55.3 10/8/2015: Created DirectX BackGlass Window
21:12:55.4 10/8/2015: Created DirectX DMD Window
21:12:55.6 10/8/2015: Hiding Cursor
21:12:55.6 10/8/2015: Hiding Taskbar
21:12:55.7 10/8/2015: CPU: AMD A10-7850K Radeon R7, 12 Compute Cores 4C+8G
21:12:55.7 10/8/2015: GPU 1: AMD Radeon R9 200 Series
21:12:55.7 10/8/2015: GPU 2: AMD Radeon R7 Graphics
21:12:55.7 10/8/2015: Displays: 3
21:12:55.9 10/8/2015: Load Game List
21:12:55.9 10/8/2015: Loading Database: Future Pinball
21:12:56.0 10/8/2015: Loading Database: Visual Pinball
21:12:56.0 10/8/2015: Loading Database: Visual Pinball - PhysMod5
21:12:56.0 10/8/2015: Finding and matching artwork and videos
21:12:56.2 10/8/2015: Also Creating and Caching Wheels for Overlays
21:12:56.4 10/8/2015: Loading Game Statistics and Scores
21:12:56.4 10/8/2015: Main display running full screen windowed.
21:12:56.5 10/8/2015: Loading Surfaces
21:12:56.8 10/8/2015: Finished Loading Surfaces
21:12:56.8 10/8/2015: Initialize Audio
21:12:56.9 10/8/2015: Set Keyboard Controls
21:12:56.9 10/8/2015: Initialize Joystick
21:12:57.0 10/8/2015: 1 Joystick Attached
21:12:57.0 10/8/2015: Started
21:14:15.2 10/8/2015: Launch System
21:14:15.2 10/8/2015: Waiting for threads
21:14:15.2 10/8/2015: Disposing display
21:14:18.9 10/8/2015: C:\Program Files (x86)\Visual Pinball\VP_PM5.exe /play -"C:\Program Files (x86)\Visual Pinball\Tables\Medieval Madness Physmod.vpt"
21:14:19.0 10/8/2015: D:\PinballX\vpauto.exe
21:14:31.4 10/8/2015: Hidden Visual Pinball Editor Window
21:15:17.3 10/8/2015: Exit System Control Pressed
21:15:25.7 10/8/2015: Created DirectX BackGlass Window
21:15:25.7 10/8/2015: Created DirectX DMD Window
21:15:25.7 10/8/2015: Main display running full screen windowed.
21:18:59.4 10/8/2015: Launch System
21:18:59.4 10/8/2015: Waiting for threads
21:18:59.5 10/8/2015: Disposing display
21:19:03.1 10/8/2015: C:\Program Files (x86)\Visual Pinball\VP_PM5.exe /play -"C:\Program Files (x86)\Visual Pinball\Tables\AC-DC_PhysMod5_Helen_rev.1.1c.vpt"
21:19:03.1 10/8/2015: D:\PinballX\vpauto.exe
21:19:16.5 10/8/2015: Hidden Visual Pinball Editor Window
21:19:31.6 10/8/2015: Created DirectX BackGlass Window
21:19:31.7 10/8/2015: Created DirectX DMD Window
21:19:31.7 10/8/2015: Main display running full screen windowed.
21:19:39.3 10/8/2015: Exiting
21:19:41.1 10/8/2015: Showing Taskbar
21:19:41.4 10/8/2015: Unhiding Mouse Cursor
21:19:41.4 10/8/2015: Disposing Plugins
21:19:41.4 10/8/2015: Saving Settings
21:19:41.4 10/8/2015: Bye

**Jannek** · October 9, 2015

Sorry Scooby,

I´m out. I like this table as well, but it´s always crashing on my System. So I will have to wait until I get a more powerful PC and will my own tests later on. Therefore I´m not able to give you further hints...

Kind regards,

Jannek

**Draco1962** · October 9, 2015

Was the log.txt right after attempting to launch ACDC?

Also, you may want to "google" the following key words "acdc table crashing" and check the two threads that show in the top of your search. I have a feeling that, even though you can get it to run outside of PinballX (although you did not state clearly if you ran it mutliple times back-to-back), I do not think that this is necessarily a PinballX issue.

If anyone else has this table running OK via PinballX, please chime in.

**Carny_Priest** · October 9, 2015

Yes, AC/DC launches fine from within PBX.

**Scooby1** · October 9, 2015

I did grab the log.txt after launching ACDC. It shows both the ACDC table and MM table attempted and one thing I notice in the log is MM shows Exit System Control Pressed (since I pressed the exit table button). The ACDC table shows Exiting, not Exit System Control Pressed (I did not press anything, it just crashes). Is this because VP crashed after launching ACDC or is this a normal log entry?

It sounds like this might be the most resource intensive VP table (at least of the tables I have). There is an ACDC non-rom table, that plays great. It's just this amazing Stern version from Javier15 that is giving me so much trouble.

Are there settings I should look at to be sure my system has enough resources/horse power to run this table every time?

**Draco1962** · October 9, 2015

I don't think that your system resources are insufficient. I may be a matter of how this particular table was written.

**Ginsonic** · October 13, 2015

Scooby1,

I had troubles with that table too. If I remember correctly, I compiled (script) and saved the PM5 table using Visual Pinball (regular EXE, not PM5 !) and then started it again with the correct PM5 VP version.

Worth a try !

**Scooby1** · October 13, 2015

Thanks Ginsonic. For someone like me who has not done this, how exactly is it done? I open the ACDC stern table with regular VP, open the script, then what do I change in the script before compiling?

**Ginsonic** · October 14, 2015

Open table file in "normal" VP.exe
Open script editor
No need to change anything !
Select "compile" from menu
Close Script editor window
Save File (Ctrl + S)

Then close VP.exe and try to start it in VP_PM5 using PinballX

If this does not work, try to repeat the steps above using VP_PM5.exe

I once tried some combinations compiling/saving, but I do not exactly remember, which worked finally.

But it worked ;-)

**Scooby1** · October 14, 2015

Thanks for the suggestion. It could have been this (probably was), as I can now get ACDC Stern to launch from PBX, well, most of the time.

The table still seems to have trouble sometimes if I have any other program running in the background. For example, if I have been making changes to PBX and the Game Manager open or a web browser, then this table sometimes crashes on launch.

For the most part, it seems to be running more consistently. I still consider this an unpredictable table, as I never know if it's going to launch or crash.

Since it's now launching more than it's crashing, I'm going to leave it and see how it does when it gets more play.

Thanks for the help!

**Scooby1** · October 20, 2015

Update: This awesome table now plays every time it's launched from PBX (all other programs need to be closed). It is now among the top 5 tables played on my cab!

Thanks for the great work and support!

**tthurman** · October 21, 2015

Nothing short of great news here, as this is an obvious favorite table of many, and one that has proved difficult to run for many!

Thanks for following through so others will not throw in the towel when faced with a bit of adversity here :win:

[RESOLVED] ACDC (Stern) crashing PinballX

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