nerand Posted August 6, 2015 Posted August 6, 2015 Hi guys! I think this is my first post here. I've been using GameEx for some years and have spent countless hours making my own theme, databases, artwork, tweaks and customizations etc. It's a great software, and i'm eagerly looking forward to GameEx Evolution where i plan on putting much effort into updating and redesigning my theme and possibly release it here. But regarding my post: Starting with MAME 0.163 i've had problems with multiple MAME games (about 10-15 of the 500+ in my collection) not showing up in GameEx. I spent some time going though my GameEx setup to figure out why, but ended up waiting to see if a new version of MAME and/or GameEx would fix it. There has been a few GameEx updates since MAME 0.163, and last week MAME 0.164 was released. The missing games problem still persists with 0.164. I was at that time running Windows 8.1 Pro 64-bit. Last week i upgraded to Windows 10 Pro 64-bit. Since my GameEx setup is heavily customized i figured i'd try a clean standard installation at my workcomputer to keep it simple. - System is Windows 10 Pro 64-bit. - Installed GameEx 14.33 and MAME 0.164 64-bit. - To replicate the problem i used the game "Golden Axe: The Revenge of Death Adder (World)" - ga2.zip, which is one of the roms i'm missing in GameEx.I also tried with the clones ("Golden Axe: The Revenge of Death Adder (US)" - ga2u.zip and "Golden Axe: The Revenge of Death Adder (Japan)" - ga2j.zip) to see if they were affected to. - Put a few romsets in the roms folder of MAME (some i knew showed up, and some i knew didn't), and checked with RomCenter that they verified correctly with 0.164. - Started mame64.exe and ran the different games to confirm that they started. - In the clean GameEx installation i changed a few of the default settings. Changed the path to my MAME folder and a few settings like "VerifyRoms=False" and "OnlyRoms=True" and made sure "OnlyWorking=False", "AllowImperfect=True" and "NoClones=False". - Booted up GameEx and ran the "Update List" function for MAME. I got the same results on this setup. The same games didn't show up in the GameEx mame list. Checking the log file i noticed that the XML export (listinfo.dat) correctly lists the romset in question. The "[Arcade] MAME.mdb" database created during this update does not contain these games/romsets. I've also tried with the "Only Existing Roms" turned off to get a full listing in GameEx, but the specific roms are still not showing. I've attached the GameEx.ini and log.txt files as requested in the forum policies. Thanks in advance GameEx.inilog.txt
tthurman Posted August 6, 2015 Posted August 6, 2015 In the MAME settings section your current setting is the default:DoNotFilterROMS=pacman;splatterHave you tried manually inputing those that aren't showing here?Just to clarify, with the changes that came with MAME 0.162 and forward, I've decided to stay put at 0.161 for the foreseeable future. MESS is just something I have no interest in, and so I have not bothered learning the idiosyncrasies involved with it.In short, I have zero experience regarding how it plays with GameEx.
nerand Posted August 7, 2015 Author Posted August 7, 2015 @Shuwatch!I tried putting the missing roms into the DoNotFilterROMS, but they still didn't show up.I dug i a bit deeper and it seems like it's only games using the sega32.c driver that's affected. Arabian Fight, Dark Edge, Jurassic Park, Spider-Man etc.(https://github.com/mamedev/mame/blob/master/src/mame/drivers/segas32.c) Running a full compare of MAME 0.162 and 0.163/0.164 listxml export it looks like all sega32.c games has changes in tags and device names, which probably explains why GameEx won't pick them up.
SonicB00M Posted August 7, 2015 Posted August 7, 2015 I can confirm this issue. Cannot see those System 32 games either.
SonicB00M Posted August 11, 2015 Posted August 11, 2015 *BUMP*Any infos on why GameEx can't see these games? Other UIs have no problems in displaying them.
Draco1962 Posted August 11, 2015 Posted August 11, 2015 May require an update by the author. Can you provide a list of games? Since this thread is only 5 days old, please feel free to NOT bump it again. Thanks!
SonicB00M Posted August 11, 2015 Posted August 11, 2015 Thank you! Wouldn't have bumped if we got something like 'noted!' or 'looking into this' https://github.com/mamedev/mame/blob/master/src/mame/drivers/segas32.cYou can see the list at the very bottom of the page.For a visual reference:http://www.system16.com/hardware.php?id=709andhttp://www.system16.com/hardware.php?id=710
Draco1962 Posted August 11, 2015 Posted August 11, 2015 Usually when one of us, be it a moderator, admin, or whatever responds to the OP, it is being reviewed. Trust me, you won't get better service than here. Just keep in mind that we rely on the members to provide us with actionable data and some issues require more time to address than our real life responsibilities will sometimes allow.
SonicB00M Posted August 11, 2015 Posted August 11, 2015 I wasn't complaining or anything. In fact I appreciate this level of service very much I just wanted to know if this issue is being looked into because tthurman told us more or less 'I am using an older MAME version so I can't help'. No pressure, just curiosity
Tom Speirs Posted August 12, 2015 Posted August 12, 2015 Hi, I am aware, I will look at it shortly. 1
DazzleHP Posted August 12, 2015 Posted August 12, 2015 I wasn't complaining or anything. In fact I appreciate this level of service very much I just wanted to know if this issue is being looked into because tthurman told us more or less 'I am using an older MAME version so I can't help'. No pressure, just curiosity MAME has changed dramatically recently, the latest versions including MESS. This came out of the blue and literally no one was prepared for it, let alone 3rd party frontend devs. Since then many developers have been scrambling to get to grips with the new code, and things will be "trial and error" for a while till something can be agreed upon. No one is to blame for this. It does however mean that some patience is required by all, to get through it as quickly a possible.And reliable as ever, Tom says:Hi, I am aware, I will look at it shortly.Which basically translates to: "I got this, check back soon coz i'll nail it! HARD." and you know it's true!
Tom Speirs Posted August 16, 2015 Posted August 16, 2015 Please provide some rom names that are not displaying.Thanks.
Draco1962 Posted August 16, 2015 Posted August 16, 2015 Hi Tom - reference this post by Nerand. He has also provided a link to the GitHub site and noted that it is all of the sega32.c games that are impacted. Lines 5377 to 5450 for the list of games.I have extracted from the raw source here:GAME( 1992, arescue, 0, sega_system32_dual_direct, arescue, segas32_new_state, arescue, ROT0, "Sega", "Air Rescue (US)", MACHINE_IMPERFECT_GRAPHICS )GAME( 1992, arescuej, arescue, sega_system32_dual_direct, arescue, segas32_new_state, arescue, ROT0, "Sega", "Air Rescue (Japan)", MACHINE_IMPERFECT_GRAPHICS ) GAME( 1993, alien3, 0, sega_system32, alien3, segas32_new_state, alien3, ROT0, "Sega", "Alien3: The Gun (World)", MACHINE_IMPERFECT_GRAPHICS )GAME( 1993, alien3u, alien3, sega_system32, alien3, segas32_new_state, alien3, ROT0, "Sega", "Alien3: The Gun (US)", MACHINE_IMPERFECT_GRAPHICS ) GAME( 1991, arabfgt, 0, sega_system32, arabfgt, segas32_new_state, arabfgt, ROT0, "Sega", "Arabian Fight (World)", MACHINE_IMPERFECT_GRAPHICS ) /* Released in 03.1992 */GAME( 1991, arabfgtu, arabfgt, sega_system32, arabfgtu, segas32_new_state, arabfgt, ROT0, "Sega", "Arabian Fight (US)", MACHINE_IMPERFECT_GRAPHICS )GAME( 1991, arabfgtj, arabfgt, sega_system32, arabfgt, segas32_new_state, arabfgt, ROT0, "Sega", "Arabian Fight (Japan)", MACHINE_IMPERFECT_GRAPHICS ) GAME( 1992, brival, 0, sega_system32, brival, segas32_new_state, brival, ROT0, "Sega", "Burning Rival (World)", MACHINE_IMPERFECT_GRAPHICS )GAME( 1992, brivalj, brival, sega_system32, brival, segas32_new_state, brival, ROT0, "Sega", "Burning Rival (Japan)", MACHINE_IMPERFECT_GRAPHICS ) GAME( 1992, darkedge, 0, sega_system32, darkedge, segas32_new_state, darkedge, ROT0, "Sega", "Dark Edge (World)", MACHINE_IMPERFECT_GRAPHICS )GAME( 1992, darkedgej, darkedge, sega_system32, darkedge, segas32_new_state, darkedge, ROT0, "Sega", "Dark Edge (Japan)", MACHINE_IMPERFECT_GRAPHICS ) GAME( 1994, dbzvrvs, 0, sega_system32, dbzvrvs, segas32_new_state, dbzvrvs, ROT0, "Sega / Banpresto", "Dragon Ball Z V.R.V.S. (Japan)", MACHINE_IMPERFECT_GRAPHICS) GAME( 1991, f1en, 0, sega_system32_dual_direct, f1en, segas32_new_state, f1en, ROT0, "Sega", "F1 Exhaust Note (World)", MACHINE_IMPERFECT_GRAPHICS )GAME( 1991, f1enu, f1en, sega_system32_dual_direct, f1en, segas32_new_state, f1en, ROT0, "Sega", "F1 Exhaust Note (US)", MACHINE_IMPERFECT_GRAPHICS )GAME( 1991, f1enj, f1en, sega_system32_dual_direct, f1en, segas32_new_state, f1en, ROT0, "Sega", "F1 Exhaust Note (Japan)", MACHINE_IMPERFECT_GRAPHICS ) GAME( 1993, f1lap, 0, sega_system32, f1lap, segas32_new_state, f1lap, ROT0, "Sega", "F1 Super Lap (World)", MACHINE_IMPERFECT_GRAPHICS )GAME( 1993, f1lapj, f1lap, sega_system32, f1lap, segas32_new_state, f1lap, ROT0, "Sega", "F1 Super Lap (Japan)", MACHINE_IMPERFECT_GRAPHICS ) GAME( 1992, ga2, 0, sega_system32_v25, ga2, segas32_new_state, ga2, ROT0, "Sega", "Golden Axe: The Revenge of Death Adder (World)", MACHINE_IMPERFECT_GRAPHICS )GAME( 1992, ga2u, ga2, sega_system32_v25, ga2u, segas32_new_state, ga2, ROT0, "Sega", "Golden Axe: The Revenge of Death Adder (US)", MACHINE_IMPERFECT_GRAPHICS )GAME( 1992, ga2j, ga2, sega_system32_v25, ga2, segas32_new_state, ga2, ROT0, "Sega", "Golden Axe: The Revenge of Death Adder (Japan)", MACHINE_IMPERFECT_GRAPHICS ) GAME( 1992, holo, 0, sega_system32, holo, segas32_new_state, holo, ORIENTATION_FLIP_Y, "Sega", "Holosseum (US)", MACHINE_IMPERFECT_GRAPHICS ) GAME( 1993, jpark, 0, sega_system32, jpark, segas32_new_state, jpark, ROT0, "Sega", "Jurassic Park (World)", MACHINE_IMPERFECT_GRAPHICS ) /* Released in 02.1994 */GAME( 1993, jparkj, jpark, sega_system32, jpark, segas32_new_state, jpark, ROT0, "Sega", "Jurassic Park (Japan, Rev A, Deluxe)", MACHINE_IMPERFECT_GRAPHICS )GAME( 1993, jparkja, jpark, sega_system32, jpark, segas32_new_state, jpark, ROT0, "Sega", "Jurassic Park (Japan, Deluxe)", MACHINE_IMPERFECT_GRAPHICS )GAME( 1993, jparkjc, jpark, sega_system32, jpark, segas32_new_state, jpark, ROT0, "Sega", "Jurassic Park (Japan, Rev A, Conversion)", MACHINE_IMPERFECT_GRAPHICS ) GAME( 1994, kokoroj2, 0, sega_system32, radr, segas32_new_state, radr, ROT0, "Sega", "Kokoroji 2", MACHINE_IMPERFECT_GRAPHICS | MACHINE_NOT_WORKING) /* uses an Audio CD */ GAME( 1990, radm, 0, sega_system32, radm, segas32_new_state, radm, ROT0, "Sega", "Rad Mobile (World)", MACHINE_IMPERFECT_GRAPHICS ) /* Released in 02.1991 */GAME( 1990, radmu, radm, sega_system32, radm, segas32_new_state, radm, ROT0, "Sega", "Rad Mobile (US)", MACHINE_IMPERFECT_GRAPHICS ) GAMEL(1991, radr, 0, sega_system32, radr, segas32_new_state, radr, ROT0, "Sega", "Rad Rally (World)", MACHINE_IMPERFECT_GRAPHICS, layout_radr )GAMEL(1991, radru, radr, sega_system32, radr, segas32_new_state, radr, ROT0, "Sega", "Rad Rally (US)", MACHINE_IMPERFECT_GRAPHICS, layout_radr )GAMEL(1991, radrj, radr, sega_system32, radr, segas32_new_state, radr, ROT0, "Sega", "Rad Rally (Japan)", MACHINE_IMPERFECT_GRAPHICS, layout_radr ) GAMEL(1995, slipstrm, 0, sega_system32, slipstrm, segas32_new_state, slipstrm, ROT0, "Capcom", "Slip Stream (Brazil 950515)", MACHINE_IMPERFECT_GRAPHICS, layout_radr )GAMEL(1995, slipstrmh, slipstrm, sega_system32, slipstrm, segas32_new_state, slipstrm, ROT0, "Capcom", "Slip Stream (Hispanic 950515)", MACHINE_IMPERFECT_GRAPHICS, layout_radr ) GAME( 1992, sonic, 0, sega_system32, sonic, segas32_new_state, sonic, ROT0, "Sega", "SegaSonic The Hedgehog (Japan, rev. C)", MACHINE_IMPERFECT_GRAPHICS )GAME( 1992, sonicp, sonic, sega_system32, sonic, segas32_new_state, sonicp, ROT0, "Sega", "SegaSonic The Hedgehog (Japan, prototype)", MACHINE_IMPERFECT_GRAPHICS ) GAME( 1991, spidman, 0, sega_system32, spidman, segas32_new_state, spidman, ROT0, "Sega", "Spider-Man: The Videogame (World)", MACHINE_IMPERFECT_GRAPHICS )GAME( 1991, spidmanu, spidman, sega_system32, spidmanu, segas32_new_state, spidman, ROT0, "Sega", "Spider-Man: The Videogame (US)", MACHINE_IMPERFECT_GRAPHICS )GAME( 1991, spidmanj, spidman, sega_system32, spidman, segas32_new_state, spidman, ROT0, "Sega", "Spider-Man: The Videogame (Japan)", MACHINE_IMPERFECT_GRAPHICS ) GAME( 1994, svf, 0, sega_system32, svf, segas32_new_state, svf, ROT0, "Sega", "Super Visual Football: European Sega Cup", MACHINE_IMPERFECT_GRAPHICS )GAME( 1994, svs, svf, sega_system32, svf, segas32_new_state, svf, ROT0, "Sega", "Super Visual Soccer: Sega Cup (US)", MACHINE_IMPERFECT_GRAPHICS )GAME( 1994, jleague, svf, sega_system32, svf, segas32_new_state, jleague, ROT0, "Sega", "The J.League 1994 (Japan)", MACHINE_IMPERFECT_GRAPHICS ) GAME( 1994, harddunk, 0, sega_multi32, harddunk, segas32_new_state, harddunk, ROT0, "Sega", "Hard Dunk (World)", MACHINE_IMPERFECT_GRAPHICS )GAME( 1994, harddunkj, harddunk, sega_multi32, harddunk, segas32_new_state, harddunk, ROT0, "Sega", "Hard Dunk (Japan)", MACHINE_IMPERFECT_GRAPHICS ) GAME( 1992, orunners, 0, sega_multi32, orunners, segas32_new_state, orunners, ROT0, "Sega", "OutRunners (World)", MACHINE_IMPERFECT_GRAPHICS )GAME( 1992, orunnersu, orunners, sega_multi32, orunners, segas32_new_state, orunners, ROT0, "Sega", "OutRunners (US)", MACHINE_IMPERFECT_GRAPHICS )GAME( 1992, orunnersj, orunners, sega_multi32, orunners, segas32_new_state, orunners, ROT0, "Sega", "OutRunners (Japan)", MACHINE_IMPERFECT_GRAPHICS ) GAME( 1992, scross, 0, sega_multi32, scross, segas32_new_state, scross, ROT0, "Sega", "Stadium Cross (World)", MACHINE_IMPERFECT_GRAPHICS )GAME( 1992, scrossa, scross, sega_multi32, scross, segas32_new_state, scross, ROT0, "Sega", "Stadium Cross (World, alt)", MACHINE_IMPERFECT_GRAPHICS )GAME( 1992, scrossu, scross, sega_multi32, scross, segas32_new_state, scross, ROT0, "Sega", "Stadium Cross (US)", MACHINE_IMPERFECT_GRAPHICS ) GAME( 1992, titlef, 0, sega_multi32, titlef, segas32_new_state, titlef, ROT0, "Sega", "Title Fight (World)", MACHINE_IMPERFECT_GRAPHICS )GAME( 1992, titlefu, titlef, sega_multi32, titlef, segas32_new_state, titlef, ROT0, "Sega", "Title Fight (US)", MACHINE_IMPERFECT_GRAPHICS )GAME( 1992, titlefj, titlef, sega_multi32, titlef, segas32_new_state, titlef, ROT0, "Sega", "Title Fight (Japan)", MACHINE_IMPERFECT_GRAPHICS )
Tom Speirs Posted August 17, 2015 Posted August 17, 2015 Hi,Thank you for reporting the issue. This is now fixed in the latest release.Tom. 2
Recommended Posts