Windows XP PinballX issue

[tttttwii]

Thanks for the new update. I have two nvdia gtx 260 cards, DOF, B2S and the latest vpinball beta installed under Windows XP 32bit.

I installed PinballX 1.69. Startup is OK, selection of a table is OK. But when I exit a table, the ingame menu is not opening. The screen are getting black for 0,5 secs and then the table is returning. Exiting vpinball with esc give the attached.log.txt. I tried 3 tables: Gameshow, TAF Gold and AFM. All with same error.

Unfortunately it is still not stable/running for me.

log.txt

[Tom Speirs]

This is a different error than the usual display error we have in this thread if you look. Could you please try running PinballX as administrator.

[tttttwii]

I have run as administrator. No change.

[Tom Speirs]

Well, that's a different error from what we have seen before so lets see what others say

[antonius1]

Hello Tom,

thank you for the new version.

Unfortunately the new version has the same behaviour as the previous versions. If i don't use InGame, every thing works fine. But pressing InGame-button does not open the InGame-menu. The table and backglass disappears for about 0.5 seconds, and then reappear. After once pressing InGame-button, exiting a table via QuitEmulator crashes PinballX. If i don't use the InGame-button, everything works perfect, even exiting a table via QuitEmulator-button.

Here is my current logfile. The other configuration files are attached at my last posting.

Regards from Bavaria

Antonius

log.txt

[insx]

So far so good for me. I've been into and out of about a dozen tables. 1.69.

[insx]

17:51:01.3 11/11/2013: PinballX - Version 1.69
17:51:01.3 11/11/2013: Loading Settings
17:51:01.3 11/11/2013: Launching Startup Program: notepad.exe
17:51:01.3 11/11/2013: \notepad.exe
17:51:19.5 11/11/2013: Initialize Component
17:51:19.5 11/11/2013: Initialize Display
17:51:20.0 11/11/2013: Start with windows is set so waiting 5 seconds. Boot Time = 11/11/2013 17:50:23
17:51:25.6 11/11/2013: Loading PlugIns
17:51:27.4 11/11/2013: Created DirectX BackGlass Window
17:51:27.4 11/11/2013: Created DirectX DMD Window
17:51:27.5 11/11/2013: Hiding Cursor
17:51:27.5 11/11/2013: Hiding Taskbar
17:51:27.5 11/11/2013: Start with windows is set so waiting 5 seconds
17:51:32.5 11/11/2013: Load Game List
17:51:32.6 11/11/2013: Loading Database: Visual Pinball
17:51:32.6 11/11/2013: Finding and matching artwork and videos
17:51:32.7 11/11/2013: Loading Game Statistics and Scores
17:51:33.1 11/11/2013: Initialize Audio
17:51:33.2 11/11/2013: Set Keyboard Controls
17:51:33.2 11/11/2013: Initialize Joystick
17:51:33.3 11/11/2013: 1 Joystick Attached
17:51:33.3 11/11/2013: Started
17:51:50.0 11/11/2013: Launch System
17:51:50.0 11/11/2013: Waiting for threads
17:51:50.0 11/11/2013: Disposing display
17:51:51.9 11/11/2013: C:\Program Files\Visual Pinball\VPinball.exe /play -"C:\Program Files\Visual Pinball\Tables\Lord of the Rings.vpt"
17:51:51.9 11/11/2013: C:\PinballX\vpauto.exe
17:51:58.4 11/11/2013: Found PinMAME ROM: lotr.nv
17:54:10.9 11/11/2013: Exit System Control Pressed
17:54:13.5 11/11/2013: Created DirectX BackGlass Window
17:54:13.5 11/11/2013: Created DirectX DMD Window
17:54:18.3 11/11/2013: Launch System
17:54:18.3 11/11/2013: Waiting for threads
17:54:18.3 11/11/2013: Disposing display
17:54:20.2 11/11/2013: C:\Program Files\Visual Pinball\VPinball.exe /play -"C:\Program Files\Visual Pinball\Tables\Medieval Madness.vpt"
17:54:20.2 11/11/2013: C:\PinballX\vpauto.exe
17:54:27.9 11/11/2013: Found PinMAME ROM: mm_109b.nv
17:57:20.7 11/11/2013: Exit System Control Pressed
17:57:23.3 11/11/2013: Created DirectX BackGlass Window
17:57:23.3 11/11/2013: Created DirectX DMD Window
17:57:32.8 11/11/2013: Launch System
17:57:32.8 11/11/2013: Waiting for threads
17:57:32.8 11/11/2013: Disposing display
17:57:34.7 11/11/2013: C:\Program Files\Visual Pinball\VPinball.exe /play -"C:\Program Files\Visual Pinball\Tables\Tales of the Arabian Nights.vpt"
17:57:34.7 11/11/2013: C:\PinballX\vpauto.exe
17:57:41.2 11/11/2013: Found PinMAME ROM: totan_14.nv
18:16:17.4 11/11/2013: Exit System Control Pressed
18:16:20.0 11/11/2013: Created DirectX BackGlass Window
18:16:20.0 11/11/2013: Created DirectX DMD Window
18:16:24.9 11/11/2013: Launch System
18:16:24.9 11/11/2013: Waiting for threads
18:16:24.9 11/11/2013: Disposing display
18:16:29.8 11/11/2013: C:\Program Files\Visual Pinball\VPinball.exe /play -"C:\Program Files\Visual Pinball\Tables\Monster Bash.vpt"
18:16:29.8 11/11/2013: C:\PinballX\vpauto.exe
18:16:37.5 11/11/2013: Found PinMAME ROM: mb_106b.nv
18:29:31.5 11/11/2013: Exit System Control Pressed
18:29:34.1 11/11/2013: Error. Exiting
18:29:34.1 11/11/2013: Error in the application.
18:29:34.1 11/11/2013: at Microsoft.DirectX.Direct3D.Device..ctor(Int32 adapter, DeviceType deviceType, Control renderWindow, CreateFlags behaviorFlags, PresentParameters[] presentationParameters)
18:29:34.1 11/11/2013: at Direct2D.Direct2d.Device..ctor(Form FormHandle, Int32 Width, Int32 Height, Boolean Windowed, Boolean VSync, Boolean Display16Bit, Int32 DisplayNbr, Int32 RefreshRate)
18:29:34.1 11/11/2013: at PinballX.Main.b(Boolean A_0, Boolean A_1, Boolean A_2)
18:29:34.1 11/11/2013: at PinballX.Main.ac()
18:29:34.1 11/11/2013: at PinballX.Main..ctor()
18:29:34.1 11/11/2013: Disposing Plugins
18:29:34.1 11/11/2013: Showing Taskbar
18:29:34.1 11/11/2013: Unhiding Mouse Cursor

[insx]

I'm planning to upgrade my cabinet to Windows 7 so I guess this issue will go away for me at least.

[Tom Speirs]

I do expect so but please report back and let us know how it goes.

You know though XP is so ancient now. I have not run it for years.

The new operating systems generally have no issue with emulation stuff.

[Adultery]

Aren't they canning support for XP soon anyways?

[Tom Speirs]

April 8th 2014.

[Adultery]

That's what I thought. We're moving all our client systems up to W7 and it's been a nightmare. :'(

[Draco1962]

We are at the tail of our migrations and a major pain trying to get the few remainders done because of legacy equipment that barely runs with XP.

[Adultery]

They decided to upgrade everything including our servers. I'm sure it wasn't cheap, but some of our equipment can be found next to dinosaur fossils in the museum, so it was needed.

Nothing like waiting until the last minute. :-)

[insx]

Yes, I'll let you know. I read that VP runs quicker under Windows 7.

[insx]

It looks like I won't be upgrading to Windows 7 for the time being but I will soon be trying a Radeon + nVidia combination rather than 2 x nVidia.

[Tom Speirs]

If it becomes official we will announce it but we may well be dropping official support for XP in the future for both GameEx and PinballX. As we can see from this topic it can take a significant amount of my time to support and code for it.

The issue is manufacturers and software companies don't care about XP anymore and its not that I don't like to keep folks happy but it will become increasingly difficult to do as hardware manufactures and providers of APIs (that are used in my products) drop it too.

[antonius1]

Hi Tom,

thank you for your efforts to solve the problem. For the next months, i will stay with XP. I configured my cab not to use the InGame-menu, and so i can use PinballX without any further issues.

Kind regards from bavaria

Antonius

[insx]

I tried a Radeon card and I tried WIndows 7. VP performance was worse in both cases, even though the Radeon card does a lot better in benchmark tests than my nVidia card. So I'm back to nVidia and XP.

Was there any more progress on this issue or are we stuck with it?

[Draco1962]

Have you upgraded your installed version of PinballX since this was initially reported back in November? I think there have been a few updates since then.

[insx]

Yes, I'm on 1.72. I can continue to post logs if it's helpful but if it won't be looked at any more I will look for another solution.

[Draco1962]

Good to have the latest log just in case. Thanks!

[insx]

Here's my log. I recently changed my GTS450 card for another GTS450 with better cooling. I also have a NVS290 for the backglass and DMD. I can't even exit once now.

18:02:13.3 21/01/2014: PinballX - Version 1.72

18:02:13.3 21/01/2014: Loading Settings

18:02:13.3 21/01/2014: Launching Startup Program: notepad.exe

18:02:13.3 21/01/2014: \notepad.exe

18:02:13.3 21/01/2014: Initialize Component

18:02:13.4 21/01/2014: Initialize Display

18:02:13.6 21/01/2014: Start with windows is set so waiting 5 seconds. Boot Time = 21/01/2014 18:01:58

18:02:19.2 21/01/2014: Loading PlugIns

18:02:19.3 21/01/2014: Created DirectX BackGlass Window

18:02:19.3 21/01/2014: Created DirectX DMD Window

18:02:19.4 21/01/2014: Hiding Cursor

18:02:19.4 21/01/2014: Hiding Taskbar

18:02:19.4 21/01/2014: Start with windows is set so waiting 5 seconds

18:02:24.5 21/01/2014: Load Game List

18:02:24.5 21/01/2014: Loading Database: Visual Pinball

18:02:24.5 21/01/2014: Loading Database: PinballFX2

18:02:24.5 21/01/2014: Finding and matching artwork and videos

18:02:24.7 21/01/2014: Loading Game Statistics and Scores

18:02:25.1 21/01/2014: Initialize Audio

18:02:25.2 21/01/2014: Set Keyboard Controls

18:02:25.2 21/01/2014: Initialize Joystick

18:02:25.2 21/01/2014: 1 Joystick Attached

18:02:25.2 21/01/2014: Started

18:03:22.2 21/01/2014: Launch System

18:03:22.2 21/01/2014: Waiting for threads

18:03:22.2 21/01/2014: Disposing display

18:03:24.2 21/01/2014: C:\Program Files\Visual Pinball\VPinball.exe /play -"C:\Program Files\Visual Pinball\Tables\the shadow (bally 1994).vpt"

18:03:24.2 21/01/2014: C:\PinballX\vpauto.exe

18:03:29.5 21/01/2014: Found PinMAME ROM: ts_lx5.nv

18:03:31.6 21/01/2014: Exit System Control Pressed

18:03:34.6 21/01/2014: Error. Exiting

18:03:34.6 21/01/2014: Error in the application.

18:03:34.6 21/01/2014: at Microsoft.DirectX.Direct3D.Device..ctor(Int32 adapter, DeviceType deviceType, Control renderWindow, CreateFlags behaviorFlags, PresentParameters[] presentationParameters)

18:03:34.6 21/01/2014: at Direct2D.Direct2d.Device..ctor(Form FormHandle, Int32 Width, Int32 Height, Boolean Windowed, Boolean VSync, Boolean Display16Bit, Int32 DisplayNbr, Int32 RefreshRate)

18:03:34.6 21/01/2014: at PinballX.Main.b(Boolean A_0, Boolean A_1, Boolean A_2)

18:03:34.6 21/01/2014: at PinballX.Main.ad()

18:03:34.6 21/01/2014: at PinballX.Main..ctor()

18:03:34.6 21/01/2014: Disposing Plugins

18:03:34.6 21/01/2014: Showing Taskbar

18:03:34.6 21/01/2014: Unhiding Mouse Cursor

[Draco1962]

If you have swapped out GPUs, you will need to install the most up-to-date drivers from the manufacturer. In addition, install the latest DirectX version supported by your OS.

[insx]

Yes, uninstalled and then did a clean install. I have directx 9 for XP which is the latest available.