sorry for the late reply ok to the answers: Dont ask me why but for some reason we had a power cut and it turned my pc off, when i came back from work i rebooted and checked the forums then checked the ini file and what do i find a created excluderoms with all the roms i deleted there !, i would have thought a restart of GameEx would have done the trick but obviously not, i feel such an idiot now , please except my apologies for getting you to help when a simple reboot was all i should have done in the 1st place. SM, Hangs head in shame as says im not worthy to be a GameEx user. SM.