Speed up.

[Stlkid81]

Hey, first of all, thanks for everyone who has helped me so far. This question is more MAME related than GameEX related so if this isn't the right place for a question like this than sorry in advance. Anyway, for games like Killer Instinct 2 what is the best way to speed this thing up. Ive been using U64Emu for years and it's ran at 100% like 3 computers ago. In Mame it's much slower and the audio can't keep up and sounds horrible. Ive messed with a bunch of display settings but cant speed it up(No filters helped a little). The "3D" stages are perfect (TJ Combo..ect). I just got a new comp. and it's not a super computer but I'm a little shocked it can't play this at full speed. The specs are:

Intel Core 2 Due @ 2ghz

2 gig ram

Nvidia 8500GT 512

300 gig HD

Is my computer just to underpowered to play this game in Mame? (I guess I can believe this since games like MK3 require at least a 3ghz P4 to run full speed)

Should I try to overclock the CPUs? If so, how much would be safe? (I know nothing about this) I once heard someone on the Mame boards say thats it's a sin not to overclock a Core 2 Duo.

would more ram help at all? Should I go up to 4 gig?

If a CPU upgrade is my only option than I will most likely just stick with U64EMU.

Even games like SF3 run full speed, this is the only game I can't get to run at 100% (not including 3D games of course).

Thanks for any help and once again if this is the wrong place for this I apologize.

Thanks

[Brian Hoffman]

Hey, first of all, thanks for everyone who has helped me so far. This question is more MAME related than GameEX related so if this isn't the right place for a question like this than sorry in advance. Anyway, for games like Killer Instinct 2 what is the best way to speed this thing up. Ive been using U64Emu for years and it's ran at 100% like 3 computers ago. In Mame it's much slower and the audio can't keep up and sounds horrible. Ive messed with a bunch of display settings but cant speed it up(No filters helped a little). The "3D" stages are perfect (TJ Combo..ect). I just got a new comp. and it's not a super computer but I'm a little shocked it can't play this at full speed. The specs are:

Intel Core 2 Due @ 2ghz

2 gig ram

Nvidia 8500GT 512

300 gig HD

Is my computer just to underpowered to play this game in Mame? (I guess I can believe this since games like MK3 require at least a 3ghz P4 to run full speed)

Should I try to overclock the CPUs? If so, how much would be safe? (I know nothing about this) I once heard someone on the Mame boards say thats it's a sin not to overclock a Core 2 Duo.

would more ram help at all? Should I go up to 4 gig?

If a CPU upgrade is my only option than I will most likely just stick with U64EMU.

Even games like SF3 run full speed, this is the only game I can't get to run at 100% (not including 3D games of course).

Thanks for any help and once again if this is the wrong place for this I apologize.

Thanks

Newer versions of mame have screwed this up.. They wont admit to it at the mame forum. But If you use an older build it will work just fine... goto MAMEDEV.org previous versions download 106. I copied it into its own folder and copied my KI roms and chd into that folder. I wrote TWO batch files to launch the games and set it up as an emulator. It works great...Just not the way Id like it..

[Will]

Most of the Core 2 Duo's are REALLY good overclockers. With a little research on your motherboard you could probably get a huge speed increase without even switching from air cooling. I'd get a good $30-50 CPU fan for it though. I have seen articles showing a 2 GHz increase on many of them. If you could get it to even 2.75 or 3.00 GHz you'd be flying. It might or might not make a difference in KI2, but at least down the road you'll know you have a ton of extra performance to tap if needed.

Also, you could try some other avenues as well....I use an Althon 64 3400+ and it works pretty well for me. I guess it does stutter a little, but I never really found it too distracting. Just me though

[Stlkid81]

Hey thanks you guys for the help. I tried Mame v.106 and it runs great, no problems at all. You guys are beautiful. I will most likely look into overclocking anyway, I had no idea I would be able to safely get that kind of an increase. One more thing if it's not to much trouble, like I said I'm now using v.106 for the KI's so I now have two versions of Mame that I want to work in GameEX. You mentioned making a .bat file to do this. I know what a BAT file is but thats about it. What should I do to get this up and running? How do I make the .bat file and what should I put in it? Thanks again.

later

[Brian Hoffman]

Hey thanks you guys for the help. I tried Mame v.106 and it runs great, no problems at all. You guys are beautiful. I will most likely look into overclocking anyway, I had no idea I would be able to safely get that kind of an increase. One more thing if it's not to much trouble, like I said I'm now using v.106 for the KI's so I now have two versions of Mame that I want to work in GameEX. You mentioned making a .bat file to do this. I know what a BAT file is but thats about it. What should I do to get this up and running? How do I make the .bat file and what should I put in it? Thanks again.

later

Give me an hour and I'll cost my config (gotta leave work). Along with sample bat files..

Glad you got it going.

I have attached a zip including the bat files I use. Launch your gameexconfig.exe located in the installation folder.

Create a emulator entry using these settings.

[Emulator_1]

Enabled=True

STARTPAGENAME=Arcade Killer Instinct

TITLETEXT=Killer Instinct

StartPageLogo=

ROMFilter=*.Bat

RomPath=C:\killerinstinct

SnapPath=

TitlePath=

BoxPath=

CartPath=

ManualPath=

WorkingPath=C:\killerinstinct

MapKeys=

WaitBeforeKeys=

SendKeys=

ReplaceDash=

ReplaceUnder=

Capitals=

RemoveBrackets=

ShowDesktop=False

Debug=False

MAPFile=

AlsoLaunch=

Command=[ROMPath]\[RomFile]

OLDatZip=

LaunchBefore=

LaunchAfter=

configFile=

ExcludedFiles=

CustomBackground=

PlayMusic=

DontShowInfo=

PlaySelectionMusic=True

SelectionMusicFolder=G:\-DATA-\-MP3-\ACDC

PCGame=

DATABASE=

GamesIn7Zips=

PlayInScreenSaver=True

ShowMostPlayed=

RandomMostPlayed=

CDCheck=

CDCheckFile=

[GENERAL]

DumbyValue=

-----------------------------------

(note this is seprate from the rest of your current mame ver)

Make a folder in your c drive called killerinstinct

Now in the folder c:\killerinstinct copy the mame 106 exe and Rom etc....

Also in this folder copy the bat files.

Check the paths and run gameex all should be ok.

ki.zip

[Stlkid81]

Hey thanks man, I got it to work. It took a little editing of the .bat files but I got it! For some reason when I loaded the .bat files you provided it came back with an "Unknown option error" or something like that. So I deleted the options in the .bat files and everything worked great (I also deleted the line that was pointed to I guess some AC DC music, great band but I don't have that directory so.....). I'm this close to having GameEX working perfectly. I fixed that Juke box problem as well. I just uninstalled it and than reinstalled it and it works perfectly now. Once I reinstalled it the theme changed to a plain light blue kinda background(which I like much more) and the juke box worked. Just a few more things to iron out and than it'll be donation time. I plan on giving $50 rather than $25 because this is BY FAR the best front end I have ever used. Well I'm off to test some stuff, thanks for all the help, this forum beats the hell outa the MAME\MAMEWorld forums (some of those people are dicks). You people are amazing, have a great night\day.

Later

[Brian Hoffman]

Hey thanks man, I got it to work. It took a little editing of the .bat files but I got it! For some reason when I loaded the .bat files you provided it came back with an "Unknown option error" or something like that. So I deleted the options in the .bat files and everything worked great (I also deleted the line that was pointed to I guess some AC DC music, great band but I don't have that directory so.....). I'm this close to having GameEX working perfectly. I fixed that Juke box problem as well. I just uninstalled it and than reinstalled it and it works perfectly now. Once I reinstalled it the theme changed to a plain light blue kinda background(which I like much more) and the juke box worked. Just a few more things to iron out and than it'll be donation time. I plan on giving $50 rather than $25 because this is BY FAR the best front end I have ever used. Well I'm off to test some stuff, thanks for all the help, this forum beats the hell outa the MAME\MAMEWorld forums (some of those people are dicks). You people are amazing, have a great night\day.

Later

Glad I could help.

If you need anything else dont hesitate to ask we've all been there done that...So to speak

Brian Hoffman