SSF And Daemon Tools

[scranusesscrunya]

Hi All! I have a question regarding SSF In Gameex. In the command line options i noticed that Daemon tools is supposed to launch at the same time but it doesn't. Is there an easier way to load Roms for SSF such as a loader?

Thanks In Advance.

[Brian Hoffman]

  scranusesscrunya said:

Hi All! I have a question regarding SSF In Gameex. In the command line options i noticed that Daemon tools is supposed to launch at the same time but it doesn't. Is there an easier way to load Roms for SSF such as a loader?

Thanks In Advance.

I use batchfiles for this. Deamon Tools has the ability to mount via the commandline. You can diable all prompting and autorun via the program.

Why would it need to ummount the image though? You could just end the program,Gameex will regain focus..Next game you select it will then mount that image. It is possable though.

I use batchfiles to call my PSX isos.

@ECHO OFF

c:

CD "c:\program files\daemon tools\"

daemon.exe -mount 0, "G:\Games\psx\CRONO2PSX.nrg"

g:

CD "G:\Console\psx\epsxe160"

epsxe.exe -nogui

cd g:

pskill epsxe.exe

You might be able to do the same for SSF.

If it works a loader can be written to do it automaticly without having to create a million bat files.

[Nologic]

A loader isn't required by SSF by any means...tho a Map file maybe handy if your disc images have funky names.

As Brian stated you can disable Deamon Tools own AutoRun...but often you still need to disable Windows AutoRun as well.

Please refer to this thread for more info; including a link to TweakUI which will disable Windows AutoRun.

Make sure you have the proper command lines for "Launch Before" & "Launch After"...GameEx has a nasty habit currently of stripping some required double quotes...so be sure to double check these.

Your Import INI should look some thing like so:

[Emulator]
Enabled=True
STARTPAGENAME=Sega Saturn
TITLETEXT=Sega Saturn
StartPageLogo=[Console] Sega Saturn
ROMFilter=*.b5t;*.bin;*.bwt;*.ccd;*.cdi;*.iso;*.mds;*.nrg;*.pdi
RomPath=F:\Emulation\Roms\Console\Sega Saturn\
SnapPath=F:\Emulation\GFX\Console\Sega Saturn\Snaps\
TitlePath=F:\Emulation\GFX\Console\Sega Saturn\Titles\
BoxPath=F:\Emulation\GFX\Console\Sega Saturn\Box\
CartPath=F:\Emulation\GFX\Console\Sega Saturn\Cartridge\
ManualPath=F:\Emulation\MAN\Console\Sega Saturn\
WorkingPath=F:\Emulation\EMU\Console\Sega Saturn (SSF)\
MapKeys=True
WaitBeforeKeys=
SendKeys=
ReplaceDash=False
ReplaceUnder=True
Capitals=False
RemoveBrackets=True
ShowDesktop=False
Debug=False
MAPFile=
AlsoLaunch=
Command=SSF.exe
OLDatZip=
LaunchBefore="C:\Program Files\DAEMON Tools\daemon.exe" -mount 0,"[RomPath]\[RomFile]"
LaunchAfter="C:\Program Files\DAEMON Tools\daemon.exe" -unmount 0
configFile=[Mapping Off] Exit (ALT+F4)
ExcludedFiles=
CustomBackground=
PlayMusic=False
DontShowInfo=
PlaySelectionMusic=False
SelectionMusicFolder=
PCGame=False
DATABASE=[Console] Sega Saturn
GamesIn7Zips=False
PlayInScreenSaver=False
ShowMostPlayed=True
RandomMostPlayed=False
CDCheck=False
CDCheckFile=
[GENERAL]
DumbyValue=

[scranusesscrunya]

Ok i got Daemon Tools to launch at the same time as SSF (I put the command line into the also launch option instead of launch before.) I just need a few more things. Firstly how do you set SSF to automatically go fullscreen? There doesn't seem to be an option and the .ini file is just gibberish to me. And two i had Nights into Dreams working but suddenly it just started to come up with this message

_drivestatus_play()error. Fatal Error. This doesn't happen with any other rom and i don't think its a region or BIOS problem, anyone else encountered this?

[Nologic]

Okay I'm puzzled as to why you want daemon tools to run at the same time...as it would only lead to problems. Since the disc image must be ready prior to SSF being loaded...other wise you're likely to run into the error that you did....which is basically telling you the drive isn't ready...which of course its not since the disc image is being loaded the same time as SSF...and thus its a race to see who gets done first...if daemon tools then no problem...if SSF...then a problem.

Your fighting things and I'm not sure why...

As for fullscreen if I recall you must launch SSF by its self...send it to fullscreen then exit while in fullscreen...next time SSF is launched it will launch in fullscreen.

[scranusesscrunya]

Hi me again! I've tried in vein to get SSF working but to no avail! The problem seems to be that Daemon Tools is refusing to mount before SSF Loads or at all, when i hit ctrl, alt, del there is no mention of a Daemon Tools process happening. But if i put the command line into Also Launch it will work but only if don't run SSF in fullscreen. Here's my config

Enabled=True

STARTPAGENAME=Sega Saturn

TITLETEXT=Sega Saturn

StartPageLogo=saturn

ROMFilter=*.b5t;*.bin;*.bwt;*.ccd;*.cdi;*.iso;*.mds;*.nrg;*.pdi

RomsInFolders=True

RomPath=C:\Emulation\Sega\Saturn\Roms\

SnapPath=

WorkingPath=C:\Emulation\Sega\Saturn\Emulators\SSF\

MapKeys=True

WaitBeforeKeys=

SendKeys=

ReplaceDash=False

ReplaceUnder=True

Capitals=False

RemoveBrackets=True

ShowDesktop=True

Debug=False

MAPFile=

AlsoLaunch=

Command=SSF.exe

OLDatZip=

TitlePath=

BoxPath=

LaunchBefore="C:\Program Files\DAEMON Tools\daemon.exe" -mount 0,"[RomPath]\[RomFile]"

LaunchAfter="C:\Program Files\DAEMON Tools\daemon.exe" -unmount 0

CartPath=

configFile=[Mapping Off] Exit (ALT+F4)

ExcludedFiles=

CustomBackground=

PlayMusic=False

PCGame=False

DATABASE=[Console] Sega Saturn

DumbyValue=

GamesIn7Zips=False

PlayInScreenSaver=False

ManualPath=

lastgame=

DontShowInfo=

ShowMostPlayed=True

RandomMostPlayed=False

CDCheck=False

CDCheckFile=

PlaySelectionMusic=False

SelectionMusicFolder=

I am starting Game EX without Daemon Tools running but i've tried it both ways and nothing makes the difference.

Thanks for all your help in this matter and hopefully i can rectify this soon before i smash my PC!

Thank You

P.S I have no idea what a Bat file is or how to operate one, i'm an Uber Noob!

[Brian Hoffman]

  scranusesscrunya said:

Hi me again! I've tried in vein to get SSF working but to no avail! The problem seems to be that Daemon Tools is refusing to mount before SSF Loads or at all, when i hit ctrl, alt, del there is no mention of a Daemon Tools process happening. But if i put the command line into Also Launch it will work but only if don't run SSF in fullscreen. Here's my config

Enabled=True

STARTPAGENAME=Sega Saturn

TITLETEXT=Sega Saturn

StartPageLogo=saturn

ROMFilter=*.b5t;*.bin;*.bwt;*.ccd;*.cdi;*.iso;*.mds;*.nrg;*.pdi

RomsInFolders=True

RomPath=C:\Emulation\Sega\Saturn\Roms\

SnapPath=

WorkingPath=C:\Emulation\Sega\Saturn\Emulators\SSF\

MapKeys=True

WaitBeforeKeys=

SendKeys=

ReplaceDash=False

ReplaceUnder=True

Capitals=False

RemoveBrackets=True

ShowDesktop=True

Debug=False

MAPFile=

AlsoLaunch=

Command=SSF.exe

OLDatZip=

TitlePath=

BoxPath=

LaunchBefore="C:\Program Files\DAEMON Tools\daemon.exe" -mount 0,"[RomPath]\[RomFile]"

LaunchAfter="C:\Program Files\DAEMON Tools\daemon.exe" -unmount 0

CartPath=

configFile=[Mapping Off] Exit (ALT+F4)

ExcludedFiles=

CustomBackground=

PlayMusic=False

PCGame=False

DATABASE=[Console] Sega Saturn

DumbyValue=

GamesIn7Zips=False

PlayInScreenSaver=False

ManualPath=

lastgame=

DontShowInfo=

ShowMostPlayed=True

RandomMostPlayed=False

CDCheck=False

CDCheckFile=

PlaySelectionMusic=False

SelectionMusicFolder=

I am starting Game EX without Daemon Tools running but i've tried it both ways and nothing makes the difference.

Thanks for all your help in this matter and hopefully i can rectify this soon before i smash my PC!

Thank You

P.S I have no idea what a Bat file is or how to operate one, i'm an Uber Noob!

Its ok we were all N00bs once. And I still am at alot of things

Deamon tools has a setting that lets it launch quietly...Meaning usually if you try and mound via the command line it will prompt you before it does... This maybe happening.. Run deamon tools by itself . right click on the icon in the tray and choose options... There will be a setting for disabling the prompt.... If thats what might be the issue

[onilink55]

I too am having the exact same problem. For some reason Daemon tools won't mount any image when I choose Launch Before. Most of the time my Saturn EMU comes up saying no disc. If i take out the Launch After command then everything will work just fine, however I can only pick 1 game, that game remains mounted no matter which other game I choose. Anyone have any suggestions?

By the way, for a while I couldn't figure out why whenever I boot up SSF through GameEx I would get sound but no picture (full screen). It turns out for this emu I had to set the settings to Show Desktop=True. That fixed that if anyone else runs into that problem.

OS: Vista Premium 32x

CPU: Intel Quad Core 2.4Ghz

Ram: 3GB DDR2

Graphics: ATI Radeon 1950 Pro- 256MB- PCI-E

[onilink55]

I've been playing around with it some more and discovered something, though not enough to solve my problem. I tried mounting an image myself while the emulator was running, and then when I hit ESC to go back to GameEX and I check Daemon, the image is unmounting. Which basically means that the Launch After Command is working.

The other thing I've realized is that Launch Before isn't opening up Daemon Tools at all. So it's not a problem with Daemon Tools not mounting an image as suspected. At first I thought maybe SSF was booting up too quick and loading before Daemon Tools but that's not the case.

[Brian Hoffman]

  onilink55 said:

I've been playing around with it some more and discovered something, though not enough to solve my problem. I tried mounting an image myself while the emulator was running, and then when I hit ESC to go back to GameEX and I check Daemon, the image is unmounting. Which basically means that the Launch After Command is working.

The other thing I've realized is that Launch Before isn't opening up Daemon Tools at all. So it's not a problem with Daemon Tools not mounting an image as suspected. At first I thought maybe SSF was booting up too quick and loading before Daemon Tools but that's not the case.

I thnk you are having a problem understanding how launch after works..

the command line for the emu determins what process gameex watches.. It laucnhes the process AFTER the program terminates..So if you want lauch after to load an ISO it would be usless to do it after the emu (PROCESS) closes.

It is clear to me the only way would be to load the ISO in the launch before.

It might even be the way your doing the command... Can you share what exactly your config and command are?

[onilink55]

I understand that, what I was trying to say is that the Launch After command is working. Say I mount an image myself, then I load up SSF (through gamex). When I close SSF, Daemon Tools should now unmount the image before loading back to GameEX. That is what is happening for me, which means that its working correctly.

The problem I've been having is that the Launch Before command doesn't load Daemon Tools at all. However I think I just fixed the problem by setting Daemon Tools to Also Launch. I understand that can cause a problem because Daemon and SSF are loading up together but I've just been testing it back and forth switching games for the last 20 minutes and everything is working great now.

This method also worked for Scran but his problem is that the emulator won't go full screen when he does that (which didn't happen to me, I get full screen just fine.)

[gorgeousjorge]

Ok i´ve found the solution,the problem is the command line in daemon tools.

When you import the emu config it stays like this:

C:\Program Files\DAEMON Tools\daemon.exe -mount 0,"[RomPath]\[RomFile]"

But if you modify to looke like this:

C:\PROGRA~1\DAEMON~1\daemon.exe -mount 0,"[RomPath]\[Rom]"

It ill work.

I don`t know how the name influences the load but it works,daemon only asks for secure mode and it loads the game.

Best regards

Ps I´ve learned this from this thread

http://www.gameex.info/forums/index.php?sh...hl=daemon+tools

EDIT:SOLUTION 2 ok i´ve reserched and found the problem

Instead of this C:\Program Files\DAEMON Tools\daemon.exe -mount 0,"[RomPath]\[RomFile]"

PUT THIS "C:\Program Files\DAEMON Tools\daemon.exe" -mount 0,"[RomPath]\[RomFile]"

Dashes""""" was the problem for not launching daemon tools

Info on this url http://www.daemon-tools.cc/dtcc/showthread.php?t=100

[bkenobi]

When you are launching applications from the command line, you must use double quotes if there are any spaces in the path. Dos doesn't know how to handle spaces the way you would want it to, so you have to use the quotes to make sure the whole line stays together.

In other words:

c:\emu\emu 1\emu.exe => "c:\emu\emu" "1\emu.exe"

That doesn't make any sense unless there is an application "emu" in the "c:\emu\" directory and dos knows how to process it. In any event, just use double quotes to surround any path with spaces and you should be ok!

"c:\emu\emu 1\emu.exe"

[LucasBarton]

I've been trying to get this emu to work for the last couple of days and am having little success. I can get it to work outside of GameEX fine. When I go to launch a game, the screen goes black for a second, then I can see the little SSF window come up but the game never loads. It keeps switching between resolution modes, but the game never loads up right. I have the Daemon tools stuff set up right. I exited the game in fullscreen mode outside of GameEX to keep it fullscreen, since there is no fullscreen at launch option. Any suggestions?

[Censored]

What says the run last game.bat?

[LucasBarton]

I think I found out what was wrong. Apparently SSF only supports 480i resolution, and I have my desktop and GameEX running at 720p. So, when I go to start the emulator in fullscreen mode, whether it's in or out of GameEX, the emulator switches back and forth between 480i and 720p three or four times before finally stopping at 480i. If I leave it in windowed mode and go in the GameEX configuration mode and select yes on the show desktop option, the emulator runs fine, except it shows the menu bar and window which is not what I want. Anyone know how to change the resolution in SSF? Also, when I go to redefine keys in the controller tab, a little redefine key window pops up but I can't change anything and there's no way to close it, so I have to ctrl+alt+del to close the emu. Anyone else have this problem?

edit: Well, apparently SSF is fixed at the lower resolution so there is no way to make it 720p. I don't know why it keeps changing modes like that, because Magic Engine runs at 640x480 and I have no problem with that.