[RESOLVED] Version of PinballX past 6.07 fail on my system.

[slydog43]

I have been away from the VP scene for about 1 year, last version of PinballX I had installed (main pincab) was 6.05.  I upgraded B2S, VPinMame, DMDext, VP itself, and everything seemed great until I tried to upgrade to PinballX 6.22.  I then went back and found that 6.07 will work on my system but nothing past that.  PinballX just shows main loading screen and blanks out all my screens and stays there.  Here are my 2 logs from working and non working.  

They differ from the line Main display running full screen windowed (if that helps).  Any ideas, Thanks

 

 

log-610.txt log-607.txt PinballX.ini

[slydog43]

I also upgraded my nvidia driver to 12-05024 version.  Not sure if its related as 607 works fine and 610 doesn't with same driver.  Its just that the line says running main display running full screen windowed.  When I installed the latest Nvidia driver my display order changed in windows and I had to change VPX to use a different monitor number for playfield.  

I thought it was related to the DMDDevice.dll, but everything seems fine.  

Very frustrating as I have many years of experience with VP and all its addons.  I can't wait to figure this one out.

Is there anyway to add more logging to PinballX, I want to see more between these log lines:

Loading Game Statistics and Scores

and 

Main display running full screen windowed.

that 2nd line fails to get logged, but I do have restart the computer so maybe the log fails to close and write those lines.

 

Thanks again.

[scutters]

Might be related to https://forums.gameex.com/forums/topic/30642-installed-pinball-x-620-stuck-on-title-screen/ - or might not be!, that issue was noted as starting with V6.11 not V6.10 like yours.

There were changes to the ini file reader/writer with V6.10 so try renaming statistics.ini in the databases folder first to rule that bit out.

Logging changes would need doing in pinballx so only Tom can help there, but i suppose you could try running procmon and comparing traces if you fancy a challenge (there'll be a lot of stuff shown!!)

[slydog43]

Thanks for the reply, still trying to figure this out.  I renamed my pinballx dir to pinballx_bak and tried to install PinballX 6.22, but got the same result.  So I know its not my database stuff or media.  I also see XDMDlog.txt has this:

07:31:00.9  12/10/2024:  Initialize XDMD. Developed by Spesoft.
07:31:00.9  12/10/2024:  Attempting to Initialize Real DMD Device
07:31:07.6  12/10/2024:  Attempting to Initialize Real DMD Device

 

I don't have a real DMD, could this be the issue (even though on 6.07 has the same log file.

 

[slydog43]

Thanks for the reply, still trying to figure this out.  I renamed my pinballx dir to pinballx_bak and tried to install PinballX 6.22, but got the same result.  So I know its not my database stuff or media.  I also see XDMDlog.txt has this:

07:31:00.9  12/10/2024:  Initialize XDMD. Developed by Spesoft.
07:31:00.9  12/10/2024:  Attempting to Initialize Real DMD Device
07:31:07.6  12/10/2024:  Attempting to Initialize Real DMD Device

 

I don't have a real DMD, could this be the issue (even though on 6.07 has the same log file.

 

 

Update: Scutters, your awesome.  I read through that other thread and decided to check that Real PinDMD box (I used to have one in the cab years ago). and I get a error on launch, but it then continues to the default screen, yeah.  Just have to figure how to get rid of that error message.  Getting close.

[slydog43]

I finally got past that freezing screen.  I copied over my DMDDevice64.dll from VPinMame to Pinballx dir and it now runs.  I installed latest 6.23 and it runs, yeah!!!!!!   (I don't have my table images or backglasses or dmd images working, but that should be an easy fix, thanks guys.  I hope this can help others.

 

 

I see a super small bug in the log 

07:47:06.2  12/10/2024:  Unitialize Real DMD Device

should be Initialize Real DMD Device.

[scutters]

Nice!

Must be related to the zedmd changes somehow, for some reason pbx thought you still had a real dmd (or something).

For the media try turning File Matching to on in settings for now (known issue).

[slydog43]

Not sure what is better, having blank artwork but loading PinballX or what I had before.

So my problem now is I have no artwork loading for 6.23, but it does start up.

 

Any ideas on this one?   Thanks, have to be so close but strange as I didn't change anything in ini from 6.07 to 6.23

 

log-623.txt PinballX.ini XDMDlog.txt

[slydog43]

OMG, thanks scutters I am back up and running with turning on file matching, THANK YOU SIR, you are awesome.

 

Update: I do still have 1 issue, I have a DMD screen on my playfield, anyway to hide that?  Its not the same as the DMD monitor in my cab that is working fine by showing artwork for the specific table, the on on the playfield is just showing x-men or something always.  Thanks

Update2: I was able to hide the dmd window by copying over dmddevice.ini to pinballx and turning the virtual display off.

 

Is there anyway to disable the DMDDevice stuff (I don't need it withing PinballX but want it for VPX?   I can't seem to launch any table without issue now.  (wow journey to update PinballX has been tough

 

[Mike_da_Spike]

12 minutes ago, slydog43 said:

Update: I do still have 1 issue, I have a DMD screen on my playfield, anyway to hide that?  Its not the same as the DMD monitor in my cab that is working fine by showing artwork for the specific table, the on on the playfield is just showing x-men or something always.  Thanks

Do you have dmddevice.dll (or dmddevice64.dll ) in your pinballx directory ? I think thats causing it. Also that it is still finding a 'real' dmd according your log

[scutters]

22 minutes ago, slydog43 said:

Update: I do still have 1 issue, I have a DMD screen on my playfield, anyway to hide that?  Its not the same as the DMD monitor in my cab that is working fine by showing artwork for the specific table, the on on the playfield is just showing x-men or something always.  Thanks

Update2: I was able to hide the dmd window by copying over dmddevice.ini to pinballx and turning the virtual display off.

 

Is there anyway to disable the DMDDevice stuff (I don't need it withing PinballX but want it for VPX?   I can't seem to launch any table without issue now.  (wow journey to update PinballX has been tough

Did update2 solve it?

[slydog43]

I'm all good now, thanks guys.   I do wish I didn't have to have DMDDevice64.dll in my PinballX dir, but at least everything seems to be working now.  I also had to change the exact match in settings too (strange as all my filenames do match as I wrote a little database program to make my xml files for me from my system (I used to be a programmer).

So the issue was I have to place a copy of my DMDDevice64.dll from VPinMAME dir to Pinballx dir and the loading would work fine then.  Does everyone have to do this?  It seems like PinballX thinks I have a real DMD without putting this file there.  I would prefer not to have to update that dll everytime I update DMDDevice.

Thanks for all your help.

[scutters]

I can't reproduce your initial issue with my virtual dmd but it is linked somehow to the zedmd changes.

So no, not everyone has to copy dmdevice to the pinballx directory.. you're only the 2nd as far as i know. I don't think you'll need to keep it updated though as it's effectively inactive (as in not displayed). Not sure if you had the issue because at one time you had a real dmd installed or not.

If you do want to display something on the dmd screen (not sure if you meant you disabled the pinballx dmd screen or the dmdevice virtual display) then the stats plugin might help and you can display game data. That should work regardless.

 

The media file matching is something that'll probably be fixed soon so make sure to check back for PinballX updates.

[slydog43]

The media searching matching thing is now fixed (not sure what version, but the latest 6.29 works great for me)  Thanks for all your help guys.