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I recently bought a virtual pinball machine, and the software that it used is Pinballx

And I have two questions

1. Can other tables be added to to this or is it just the 865 tables. I know that is quite a few , but there are some table I would like to play that are not included here.

2. And if so where does one find these tables, and how are they installed?

Thank you.

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1) Yes (and a lot can be updated)

2) google is your best friend.:D

Not sure what you have, but PinballX is a frontend that give you an easy interface to all kind of emulators that you need to config.

 For exame, I bought all the Zen Stuidio fx3 tables (around 100 tables), zaccaria, and pinball arcade.

But also free tables for visual pinball (those are the best), and future pinball.

But you need to understand how all is working.

For example visual pinball, uses pinmame (like mame, but adjusted for pinball roms), a backglass file and a table file.

You can add DOF to it and some other cool stuff.

With this is mind, let your imagination go on google and check tutorials etc.

Hope this helps

Edit : for someone that is member for 14 minutes and posted his first question, you won the quickest thread of the month award ! :P

 

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7 hours ago, DisneyRob said:

I recently bought a virtual pinball machine, and the software that it used is Pinballx

And I have two questions

1. Can other tables be added to to this or is it just the 865 tables. I know that is quite a few , but there are some table I would like to play that are not included here.

2. And if so where does one find these tables, and how are they installed?

Thank you.

Check out World of VPX for new tables includes links to the tables as well.

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1 hour ago, simbamame said:

Check out World of VPX for new tables includes links to the tables as well.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCAWH0DTLwUrDzvHbAglV1pg
Check out my Utube channel for previews and links to new VPX tables.
E-Mail [email protected]

Ha ! Good one ! Free advertisement for yourself :P

I know one too.

For adding/modifying tables, download Databasemanager from the download section.

 

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Just for the record guys, im happy to help people like you but supplying pinballx with cabinets like this is not something I am in on on any kind of scale. The cab is probably from those lovely people in China. Who now have to use a VPN and risk arrest to access this site by they way as I banned China a while bsck.

 

No problems and sorry to be serious for a moment but I care what you think of me..

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Posted

Totally agree with you Tom Nobody should supply a full loaded cab with pbx as a front end and a shed load of pre installed tables unless they have written permission from yourself, its the same with Pinup popper and people who supply ( and charge even though all the content is available free ) hard disk images, Pisses me off.

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Just wanted to correct you though - Free is the wrong word buddy. Somebody is paying for it one way or another and the reason people pay for hard disks is because its all a huge pain in the ass to do manually.

The chinese pincab thing and the hard disk thing are there because there is too much demand for it that is not being met much like how it was for Napster and digital music.

They rip off Popper rather than me because I don't let them wherever I can.

Anyway, moving on, life is too short, and lets be honest, we are having fun most oi the time :)

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2 hours ago, Tom Speirs said:

people pay for hard disks is because its all a huge pain in the ass to do manually.

I don't think it is a pain in the ass to do all, but people wants all to be easy. Served on a silver plate (and want to pay for it)

But the beauty of this hobby, is that you start from scratch.  Build your own cab, investigate how all is working, make the cab yours.

And totally agree that other people earn a lot of money, instead of the people who creates the software.

Not only the software of the front end, but also the software the emulators uses like FP and VP. And pinmame, dof and don't forget the authors that create the tables in their free time and share it for free to the community. 

I have deep respect for all the people who made my cabinet as it is now.  And I can understand their feelings when their program or table is sold to someone that wants to have an easy setup on their cab (or bought a complete cab).

Maybe create for pinballx some kind of activation per computer, so that unauthorized pc's are not able to run it (if the geo blocker doesn't work fine)

As for me, you are still one of my heroes Tom . And ondeed, life is too short. It can end any day, so just make fun out of it.

(Although I'm Dutch, I hope that people understand what I try to say)

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Totally agree, and good on you for banning it where ever you can Tom, its unfair to see PBX being  disturbed on a cab and you dont reap the rewards. :-(

And when i said FREE i meant most of the content thats on these image disks can be downloaded but as MDS said people are lazy.

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UGHHHHH Sorry. I think I opened a can of worms.

I thought because I bought a legitimate product from a legitimate dealer that all licenses and stuff like that was paid for.

It is an American Company by the way not China.

And perhaps it is.  I am sure with the number of systems they sell, are doing everything above board.

Now saying that, I do have one more question (excuse the ignorance of a newbie)

When I turn my machine on it automatically boots to the first game after loading.

How do I access the computer so I can add tables, and work with the programs.  I am thinking there must be a boot file that the computer automatically starts with.

Again I thank you .

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Just because someone sells a large quantity of systems doesn't equate to legitimacy - just that they are moving a lot of merchandise.

Not busting your chops, just stating an important point.

I suggest contacting the seller that sold you the system to give you the administrator name and password within the OS or set you up with and administrator account at the very least.

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5 hours ago, DisneyRob said:

How do I access the computer so I can add tables, and work with the programs.  I am thinking there must be a boot file that the computer automatically starts with.

This is something that people ask us frequently.  As Draco said : ask the seller how he managed it, or (and thats the best option): buy an extra harddrive (ssd), install latest Windowz on it and start from scratch.

So you are in charge of your directoey sctructure, know how all works and you can frequently update it and add customization (like pbx addons)

It's a learning curve, but think you definitely like it

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I think it is quite simple.
If Arcade or Pinball Machines were not sold, there would be no manufacturers.
If everyone had knowledge of carpentry, the tools and the space necessary to make the furniture and had computer knowledge and time to spare to download thousands of files separately, unzip them, rename them, create their databases and save, edit or create all the files. socks, they wouldn't buy a machine made.
What's more, there would be no profession.
There are those who buy the oil, filters, etc. and make the change in their vehicle themselves because they are passionate about mechanics, but I think most of them buy a vehicle because they want to drive it, they do not want to take care of maintenance, much less manufacture it, they can pay for it.
You may like to have a garden and it is not necessary that you have to plant each seed and take care of it, they sell plants and there are gardeners.
You can install the operating system or new hardware on your PC yourself, but if you don't know, remember that there are computer scientists.
And so we can continue with all trades, carpenters, plumbers, etc.
What you cannot do is pretend to teach those who do not want to learn.
There are many people who do not have time, who come home from work and want to play a game, without worrying about anything else and do not mind paying to have their machine updated periodically.
Others who simply do not feel like it and prefer to use their free time on other things, family, sports, etc.
To play Pinball, it is not mandatory to spend several hours a day / week / month on maintenance if you want to pay for it.
As far as I know, nobody forces anyone, neither in this, nor in anything, you can always do things for yourself or pay to do it for you.
According to the logic of some comments, everyone who hires a plumber or electrician is lazy for not doing it himself.
It is very respectable to spend months building your own Pinball and configuring everything yourself, creating all the socks and such, I have fun making mine.
But it is also very respectable to buy it ready-made.
Respect, in life everything is about respect and there are several ways to enjoy pinball, each one taking the one they prefer.
By the way, Linux is free, take your pc to a computer scientist to install Linux, it is not free, the computer scientist charges you for the installation, not for Linux and no, the computer does not pay anything to the creator of Linux, the user later you can make a donation to Linux, but the computer scientist has no obligation to do so.
That user to whom PinballX is installed as a frontend, from the outset you are guiding him along this path instead of another, be it Popper, PinballY, HyperPin or any other frontend and he can probably acquire a payment account here or make a donation .

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Yo creo que es bastante sencillo.
Si no se vendieran Máquinas Arcade o Pinball, no habría fabricantes.
Si todos tuvieran conocimientos de carpintería, las herramientas y el espacio necesario para hacerse el mueble  y tuvieran conocimientos de informática y tiempo de sobra como para descargar miles de archivos por separado, descomprimirlos, renombrarlos, crear sus databases y grabar, editar o crear todas las medias, no comprarían una máuina hecha.
Es más, no existiría ningún oficio.
Hay quienes compran el aceite, filtros, etc y hacen ellos mismos el cambio en su vehículo porque les apasiona la mecánica, pero creo que la mayoría se compran un vehículo porque quieren conducirlo, no quieren encargarse del mantenimiento, ni mucho menos de fabricarlo, pueden pagar por ello.
Te puede gustar tener un jardín y no es necesario que tengas tú que plantar cada semilla y cuidarlo, venden plantas y existen jardineros.
Puedes instalar tú mismo el sistema operativo o hardware nuevo en tu PC, pero si no sabes, recuerda que existen los informáticos.
Y así podemos seguir con todos los oficios, carpinteros, fontaneros, etc.
Lo que no se puede es pretender enseñar a quien no quiere aprender.
hay mucha gente que no tiene tiempo, que llega del trabajo y quiere jugar una partida, sin preocuparse de nada más y no le importa pagar para que periódicamente le mantengan su máquina actualizada.
Otros que simplemente no les dá la gana y prefieren usar su tiempo libre en otras cosas, familia, deporte, etc.
Para jugar al Pinball no es obligatorio dedicar varias horas al día/semana/mes en el mantenimiento si se quiere pagar por ello.
Que yo sepa, nadie obliga a nadie, ni en esto, ni en nada, siempre puedes hacer las cosas por tí mismo o pagar para que lo hagan por tí.
Según la lógica de algunso comentarios, todo el que contrata a un fontanero o electricista es un vago por no hacerlo el mismo.
Es muy respetable pegarse meses construyendo tu propio Pinball y configurando tú mismo todo, creando todas las medias y tal, yo me he divertido haciendo el mío.
Pero también es muy respetable comprarlo ya hecho.
Respeto, en la vida todo se trata en el respeto y hay varios caminos para disfrutar del pinball, que cada uno tome el que prefiera. 
Por cierto, Linux es gratuito, llevar tu pc a un informático a que te instale Linux, no es gratuito, el informático te cobra por la instalación, no por Linux y no, el informático no paga nada al creador de Linux, el usuario posteriormente puede hacer una donación a Linux, pero el informático no tiene ninguna obligación de hacerlo.
Ese usuario al que se le instala PinballX como frontend, ya de entrada le estás guiando por este camino en lugar de por otro, ya sea Popper, PinballY, HyperPin o cualquier otro frontend y probablemente pueda adquirir aquí una cuenta de pago o realizar alguna donación.

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I personally would like things to be clear.
For example Pinball FX3 has licenses for its commercial exploitation.
When we talk about commercial exploitation, it is understood that it is to put it on a public site and charge end users to play games.
However, there is no type of license for manufacturers since what they do is produce sales of their game, the client must buy the tables on Steam, the manufacturer sells the furniture and the configuration, so they have nothing against machines are sold, as long as it is with the original game (Steam version).
But there are no operating licenses for Visual Pinball, PinballX or the rest of the software, nor are there any licenses for manufacturers, nor do I think they should exist.
All the websites, PinballX, VPForums, VPUniverse, etc., all have paid membership accounts for users and there are download limits in all of them that make downloading the thousands of files that are necessary takes weeks or months even with these accounts. pay.
Since when selling a VPinball, what you are creating a potential client for these sites, I do not think that there should be a license payment from the manufacturers, since otherwise, what would be intended is to receive a double economic reward, charge from the manufacturer and collect from the end user.
It must be clear that manufacturers make machines for the user and it is the user who must buy new FX3 tables if they want to have them or register and collaborate with the VPinball websites if they want to do so, not the manufacturer.
In the same way that when they sell a machine to a client who wants it for commercial exploitation, it is the client who must acquire the permits for its exploitation, the manufacturer never does, in some communities they allow commercial exploitation and in others they do not allow it.
What surprises me is that in some communities the commercial exploitation of a machine that contains tens, hundreds or even thousands of games is allowed, but if the law allows it, there is nothing more to say.

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A mi personalmente me gustaría que se tuvieran claras las cosas.
Por ejemplo Pinball FX3 tiene licencias para su explotación comercial.
Cuando hablamos de explotación comercial, se entiende que es ponerla en un sitio público y cobrar por jugar partidas a los usuarios finales.
Sin embargo no hay ningún tipo de licencia para fabricantes ya que estos lo que hacen es producirles ventas de su juego, el cliente debe comprar las mesas en Steam, el fabricante le vende el mueble y la configuración, por lo que no tienen nada en contra de que se vendan máquinas, simpre que sea con el juego original (versión de Steam).
Pero no hay licencias de explotación de Visual Pinball, de PinballX o del resto de software, ni tampoco existen licencias para los fabricantes, ni creo que deban existir.
Todas las webs, PinballX, VPForums, VPUniverse, etc, todas, tienen cuentas de membresia de pago para los usuarios y en todas existen limites de descarga que hacen que descargar los miles de archivos que son necesarios lleve semanas o meses incluso con estas cuentas de pago.
Dado que al vender un VPinball, lo que estás es creando un cliente potencial para estos sitios, no creo que deba existir un pago de licencia de los fabricantes, ya que de lo contrario, lo que se pretendería es recibir una doble retribución económica, cobrar del fabricante y cobrar del usuario final.
Hay que tener claro que los fabricantes hacen máquinas para el usuario y es el usuario quien debe comprar nuevas mesas de FX3 si quiere tenerlas o registrarse y colabrorar con las webs VPinball si quiere hacerlo, no el fabricante.
Del mismo modo que cuando venden una máquina a un cliente que la quiere para explotación comercial, es el cliente quien debe adquirir los permisos para su explotación, nunca lo hace el fabricante, en unas comunidades permiten su explotación comercial y en otras no lo permiten.
A mi lo que me extraña es que en algunas comunidades se permita la explotación comercial de una máquina que contiene decenas, cientos o incluso miles de juegos, pero si la ley lo permite, no hay nada más que decir.

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@PcTeknic - Interesting, however, I am not sure how all of this relates to the OP and the need for the author to contact the seller of the pincab with  the installed OS to provide the administrator password or setup the author with an administrator account so they can self-manage their purchase assuming the seller does not provide that level of service with the sale of the cab.

As for the rest of your posts, I find that users that pay for setups often come here or to other forums, Facebook or Discord  groups for assistance with errors or problems with their purchase rather than the seller. I will not tell someone where to spend their money. Having jumped on the Indigogo Atari VCS bandwagon I forfeited that right IMO :lol:.

I feel it is no disrespect to expect end-users to be prepared to roll-up their mental sleeves and try to learn the basics of the underlying PC and OS as well as what it takes to maintain their purchase at the very least. If they want to modify it, get their hands dirty with the details it takes to install new tables, manage their data and media, and troubleshoot errors along the way.

If they do not have the time to invest because of time needed with family, jobs, etc., then they need to address their priorities rather than expecting others to do the work so they can have the console experience.

This in no way assumes the author of this thread has less than valid concerns and I assume he is here wanting to learn about and expand upon his purchase.  We will help him as much as he us willing to learn. Many of us have manufactured cabs and, if a component is faulty, we can explore online as well as with the manufacturer for a solution or mediation, but with understanding that there may be disadvantages to one course of action vs another.

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That already depends on each manufacturer.
There are manufacturers that limit user access, because they do not offer support, they sell it to you, it works and if you touch, they do not want to know anything, among other things because they do not know.
I personally would not be willing to buy a VPinball on which I do not have access to modify everything I want and a VPinball that does not update, in less than a year is completely obsolete.
Other manufacturers however, with the purchase of the VPInball they give you one year of support and updates.
I myself connect every month to the VPinballs sold by a Spanish manufacturer and I give all the customers all the updates that have come out that month, Windows, Graphics card, PinballX, Visual, FX3, etc., and the news that I consider appropriate .
I'm in charge of keeping more than 700 Visual Pinball tables updated and every month I add more than 10 new features.
At the same time I explain to clients everything they want to know.
After that year, in which they are supposed to have had plenty of time to see how Visual works, the frontend databases and media and the rest of the games, they can renew the update service or not, that is a matter for each one.
Only 1 in 10 does not renew the service at the end of the year.
It is easier for them to have someone else do that work for them.
They have also contracted other VPinball services, manufactured by themselves, periodically for me to update them.
And do you know what many of them have told me when I begin to explain how everything works so that they can manage it on their own?
- "Do not heat my head, I pay you every 6 months, you update it and that's it."
I repeat what I have said a thousand times, you cannot teach those who do not want to learn, each one is free to learn and do it on their own or pay to do this or any other job.

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Eso ya depende de cada fabricante.
Hay fabricantes que limitan el acceso del usuario, porque no ofrecen soporte, te lo venden, funciona y si tocas, no quieren saber nada, entre otras cosas porque no saben.
Yo personalmente no estaría dispuesto a comprar un VPinball sobre el que no tengo acceso para modificar todo lo que yo quiera y un VPinball que no se actualiza, en menos de un año está completamente obsoleto.
Otros fabricantes sin embargo, con la compra del VPInball te dan un año de soporte y actualizaciones.
Yo mismo me conecto cada mes a los VPinball que vende un fabricante español y les pongo a todos los clientes, todas las actualizaciones que han salido ese mes, Windows, tarjeta Gráfica, PinballX, Visual, FX3, etc, y las novedades que considero oportunas.
Me encargo de mantener actualizadas más de 700 mesas de Visual Pinball y cada mes añado más de 10 novedades.
Al mismo tiempo explico a los clientes todo lo que quieran saber.
Tras ese año, en el que se supone que han tenido tiempo de sobra para ver como funciona Visual, las databases y medias del frontend y el resto de juegos, pueden renovar el servicio de actualizaciones o no, eso ya es cuestión de cada uno.
Solo 1 de cada 10, no renueva el servicio al terminar el año.
Les es más fácil que otro haga ese trabajo por ellos.
También han contratado sevicios otros VPinball, fabricados por ellos mismos, periódicamente para que yo se los actualizase.
¿Y sabes lo que me han dicho muchos de ellos cuando les empiezo a explicar como funciona todo para que puedan gestionarlo por su cuenta?. 
-"A mi no me calientes la cabez, yo cada 6 meses te pago, me lo actualizas y listo".
Repito lo que he dicho mil veces, no puedes enseñar a quien no quiere aprender, cada uno es libre de aprender y hacerlo por su cuenta o pagar para que le hagan este o cualquier otro trabajo. 

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PS: Look, I'm not the internet police, I only fight battles I can win, and I lost my ego with youth. All I normally ask is don't take the piss, which is not much. So at the least have some common sense and keep your mouth shut. Capice?

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