stigzler Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 Problems of years of building and tinkering is that you never get round to doing some important things properly. One of those is a mame setup. Now I read Felix's guide and it said to ensure you match your romset version with your mame.exe version. So, I've now got V0.198 on both I already have a mame installation on my cab. The roms are going to go into the same location as the older set. The mame.exe path will be different. My question is this: what's the best way to ensuring the best 'clean' setup of mame in gameex? Do I need to be deleting any files/databases etc? Reason I'm updating is that I recall having problems with this mame/GEx installation - sometimes the roms and descriptions would not match. The launch was sometimes hit and miss. Overall, it all just felt a bit janky. So, how do I flush my present GEx config for mame (not the others!) and make it ready for a new mame/romset installation? Do I also have to update assets or anything? Mame always feels so complicated! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adultery Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 I update every major revision. I just assure I have all the assets in order (catver.ini, history.dat, etc) since the support files need updating too. Then I run the Update List option in GameEx and let it do it's thing. I use the Verify ROMs option, no clones unless better, no pr0n, and no mahjong. Then I wait for a while. I've never had to clear anything out between updates, it's usually pretty accurate for my needs. I've seen people post about missing games, but I've never had that issue really (at least not for games I actually play). It also usually takes me a while to find and manually strip out the gambling games, man I hate those! Hope that helps! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tthurman Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 3 hours ago, Adultery said: I update every major revision. What's the determining factor for "major"? I usually settle on a set for a good bit for my rig, but keep a perpetual set separately If you use the "Extras" built by community regulars, then the assets are close enough to work as long as you are one or two releases within the current. 0.199 will be out Wednesday BTW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adultery Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 2 minutes ago, Adultery said: Well generally, I don't update to any 'u' builds. If that's still even a thing anymore. So 0.196, 0.197, 0.198, etc. And apparently 0.199 this week. Lol Woah, I quoted myself somehow.. Intense! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stigzler Posted June 26, 2018 Author Share Posted June 26, 2018 15 hours ago, Adultery said: I just assure I have all the assets in order (catver.ini, history.dat, etc) since the support files need updating too Cheers chaps. A - where are these gotten from? are they in the mame download? Sorry - newb questions I know, but wanna get it right this time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tthurman Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 12 hours ago, Adultery said: Woah, I quoted myself somehow.. Intense! The "U" releases went away several years ago with the monthly (last Wednesday of each) release schedule was implemented. I rarely bothered with them either. 1 hour ago, stigzler said: Cheers chaps. A - where are these gotten from? are they in the mame download? Sorry - newb questions I know, but wanna get it right this time. What, are you yanking our chain with this thread? A man of your experience suddenly posting this after all these years of building and coding! Spoiler http://www.progettosnaps.net/support/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stigzler Posted June 26, 2018 Author Share Posted June 26, 2018 41 minutes ago, tthurman said: What, are you yanking our chain with this thread? A man of your experience suddenly posting this after all these years of building and coding! Lol - yeah - I'm being serious. Have you ever muddled through something each time you get to it, but only done half a job without understanding what you're doing? Aside from my day job, this is what I've been doing with MAME! So presently, I have mame 0.198 and a 0.198 set and 0.198 bios-devices. What do I need form that site and where do I stick them (no rude answers, please). Also do the bios-devices have to be in the roms folder or can you point GE to that individually? Thanks for your forbearance, fellows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tthurman Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 BIOS devices are for the software lists which GameEx currently does not support. Look for this feature support in EVO, but even then the BIOS devices are only required by certain systems. I'm still green on the software lists myself, and just now venturing into that realm. All you need to provide GameEx with is the files with fields in the Advance MAME section down towards the bottom. There have been some setup wizard changes since I last looked at this myself, but I wouldn't imagine it's changed that drastically if at all here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adultery Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 In addition to what Todd said, MameWorld has a link to most, if not all of the asset files on their front page. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stigzler Posted June 26, 2018 Author Share Posted June 26, 2018 Cheers chaps - it did turn into a little bit of a hunt especially for controls.dat, but got them all in the end. So all done as directed, but not launching from GE. Launch fine from MAME directly, also from lifted command line form log.txt. HOwever, when launched from GE, just tries an returns immediately to GE. No clues that I can see in the log either... On a positive note - game descriptions are now right (albeit all now prefixed with "a ## year old game" - that gameex or one of the dat files?) Any advice appreciated! I think Mame is my nemesis weirdly... log.txt GameEx.ini Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stigzler Posted June 26, 2018 Author Share Posted June 26, 2018 P.S. Found this whilst looking for something else. Ben's pulled them all the mame dat files together: https://gameex.info/forums/files/category/38-data-files/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adultery Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 Any chance it launches from runitgame.bat? I feel like it might be an issue with one of those command-line switches if it runs ok without them outside of GameEx. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tthurman Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 5 hours ago, stigzler said: P.S. Found this whilst looking for something else. Ben's pulled them all the mame dat files together: https://gameex.info/forums/files/category/38-data-files/ There have to be files in the repository in order for the downloader to work in the setup wizard. That's not intended to be a negative comment, and the plan may be to keep these current moving forward, but you'll notice in the link that I provided that many of them will update with each Mame release. At the same time, some rarely do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stigzler Posted June 27, 2018 Author Share Posted June 27, 2018 thanks T - helpful link for the current versions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stigzler Posted June 27, 2018 Author Share Posted June 27, 2018 On 6/26/2018 at 9:42 PM, stigzler said: So all done as directed, but not launching from GE. Launch fine from MAME directly, also from lifted command line form log.txt. HOwever, when launched from GE, just tries an returns immediately to GE. No clues that I can see in the log either... Sorry chaps - think I've taken my own thread off track! Any ideas on the above. Files here: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adultery Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 I'll take another look at your files tonight after I get home and see if your CL works for me. I'll holla back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tthurman Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 (edited) Did you "update"? Also: .net installed LAV's installed Edited June 28, 2018 by tthurman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stigzler Posted June 28, 2018 Author Share Posted June 28, 2018 thanks a. t - yes, yes and yes! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tthurman Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 Path issue? Quote 21:35:03.72 26/06/2018: Cannot find the ROM path: X:\Mame\MAME 0.198 ROMs (split) 21:35:03.72 26/06/2018: ROM Paths are: X:\Mame\MAME_0.198_ROMs_(split) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stigzler Posted June 28, 2018 Author Share Posted June 28, 2018 That was a great spot, T. I had the path with spaces and the amended path with underscores. Changed it to just the operational path with underscores. Still no joy. Interestingly, following A's query, tried running runitgame.bat. When launched individually, it doesn't launch the game. However, if I follow its component lines in cmd prompt it does. This is annoying... Here's runitgame.bat: Spoiler @ECHO OFF chcp 65001 C: CD "C:\Arcade\Systems\MultiSystem\Emulators\MAME\mame0198b_64bit" mame64.exe 1942 -rompath "X:\Mame\MAME_0.198_ROMs_(split)" -joy -skip_gameinfo -video d3d -noswitchres –triplebuffer ideas? log.txt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adultery Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 Is your X drive a mapped network drive? What happens if you use the UNC path in your runitgame.bat? Just a hunch, I use UNC paths for everything nowadays. My GameEx install never had a problem with mapped drives before I made the switch, but I'd still try that to see if it makes any difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DazzleHP Posted June 29, 2018 Share Posted June 29, 2018 Hey Stigz, Any particular reason you have 2 entries for the rompath in your .ini? Quote GameEx.ini: rompath=X:\Mame\MAME 0.198 ROMs (split);X:\Mame\MAME_0.198_ROMs_(split) One of them is an imposter It's probably nothing but i notice these things and they niggle at me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simbamame Posted June 29, 2018 Share Posted June 29, 2018 IVE NEVER Updated any mame stuff TBH ive no idea what set? i have, all i know is ive got version 0.179 of Mame and god only knows what rom set ive got, ive just download loads from different places and it works for me, plays the games i wont...so my question is Do i actually need to match mame verstion with ROM versions?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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