skyohn Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 For some reason when I load tables up via PinballX the BAM settings aren't being used.Once the table is loaded up the table is pushed to the upper left part of the table and not in the default size/position that BAM usually displays the table in.I can run BAM outside of PinballX just fine via FPLoader.exe, load up a table and press Q to get to the BAM settings menu, by default BAM displays the table in the middle of the screen. What it seems like is PinballX isn't even running FPLoader and is just calling Future Pinball.exe essentially not loading any part of BAM or its settings. I did notice something odd though, when I remove /STAYINRAM from the parameters that PinballX will actually load the BAM settings just like if I ran FPLoader outside of PinballX, but PinballX crashes to the task bar and or exits essentially making me have to reload the pinballX application again. So something funky must be going on with the /STAYINRAM but I'm not entirely sure at this point.Future Pinball, FPLoader, and PinBallX are all set to run as AdministratorI attached 2 screen shots, my PinballX.ini, and log.txt files.Screen 1 - FP+BAM outside of PinballX: Shows how the table looks and loads up when I run FPLoader outside of PinballxScreen Shot 2 - FP+BAM inside PinballX: Shows how the table loads up when I run FPLoader in PinballXFP+BAM settings are under [system_2]PinballX.ini: PinballX.ini Log File: log.txtThanks for any and all help, I have been trying to get this to work for a few weeks and have been pulling my hair out trying to get this to work correcty.BONUS Screenshots of my cab, I am a newb and just got into the hobby about 5 months ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
williamsbg03 Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 I am having the exact same issue. My setup was perfect until my motherboard died a couple weeks ago. I started fresh and installed PinballX, Bam, Future Pinball, and restored my configs from a backup. Now when I launch Future Pinball from PinballX it loads without BAM. Just like skyohn, if I remove the '/STAYINRAM' parameter it launches with BAM but PinballX minimizes to the tray. I will keep experimenting to find a solution but if anyone could provide assistance it would be greatly appreciated!Here is my ini and log with STAYINRAM:PinballX.ini[Display]Monitor=0rotate=270Windowed=FalseWindowWidth=480WindowHeight=720WindowX=0WindowY=65PlayFieldBrightness=150WheelTextColor=ffffffffWheelTextOutlineColor=ff000000InfoTextColor=ffffffffInfoTextOutlineColor=ff000000FilterTextColor=ffffffffFilterTextOutlineColor=ff000000MenuColor=ff063ad7[backGlass]monitor=1x=0y=0width=1440height=900[DMD]Enabled=Falsemonitor=1x=0y=0width=900height=300[interface]DesktopModeEnabled=FalseEnableAdditionalDetail=FalseShowSystem=FalseShowRatings=False[Audio]StreamVolume=90SampleVolume=90[startup]playsound=Trueplayvideo=True[KeyCodes]quit=27left=37right=39select=13rotate=82pageleft=33pageright=34exitemulator=27ingame=80screenshot=83screenshotbackglass=66instructions=73volumedown=109volumeup=107[JoyCodes]quit=6left=2right=0select=5rotate=pageleft=3pageright=1exitemulator=6ingame=4Instructions=10[Text]Line1=Free PlayLine2=Press Start[FuturePinball]Enabled=TrueWorkingPath=C:\Games\Future PinballTablePath=C:\Games\Future Pinball\TablesExecutable=BAM\FPLoader.exeParameters=/STAYINRAM /open "[TABLEPATH]\[TABLEFILE]" /play /exitLaunchBeforeEnabled=falseLaunchBeforeWorkingPath=LaunchBeforeExecutable=notepad.exeLaunchBeforeHideWindow=FalseLaunchBeforeWaitForExit=TrueLaunchAfterEnabled=FalseLaunchAfterWorkingPath=LaunchAfterExecutable=notepad.exeLaunchAfterHideWindow=FalseLaunchAfterWaitForExit=TrueMouseClickFocus=TrueFPRAMPath=C:\Games\Future Pinball\fpRAM[VisualPinball]Enabled=FalseWorkingPath=C:\Program Files (x86)\Visual PinballTablePath=C:\Program Files (x86)\Visual Pinball\TablesExecutable=VPinball.exeParameters=/play -"[TABLEPATH]\[TABLEFILE]"LaunchBeforeEnabled=falseLaunchBeforeWorkingPath=LaunchBeforeExecutable=notepad.exeLaunchBeforeHideWindow=FalseLaunchBeforeWaitForExit=TrueLaunchAfterEnabled=FalseLaunchAfterWorkingPath=LaunchAfterExecutable=notepad.exeLaunchAfterHideWindow=FalseLaunchAfterWaitForExit=True[ExitScreen]Enabled=TrueEnableExit=TrueEnableShutdown=True[startupProgram]Enabled=FalseWorkingPath=C:\Program Files (x86)\JoyToKeyExecutable=JoyToKey.exeParamaters=HideWindow=trueWaitForExit=false[ExitProgram]Enabled=falseWorkingPath=Executable=notepad.exeParamaters=HideWindow=FalseWaitForExit=[AttractMode]Enabled=TrueTimer=1ShowFor=15[system_1]Name=PinballFX2Enabled=FalseWorkingPath=C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Game Studios\Pinball FX2TablePath=C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Game Studios\Pinball FX2\data_steamExecutable=Pinball FX2.exeParameters=[TABLEFILE]LaunchBeforeEnabled=FalseLaunchBeforeWorkingPath=LaunchBeforeExecutable=notepad.exeLaunchBeforeHideWindow=FalseLaunchBeforeWaitForExit=TrueLaunchAfterEnabled=FalseLaunchAfterWorkingPath=LaunchAfterExecutable=notepad.exeLaunchAfterHideWindow=FalseLaunchAfterWaitForExit=True[Plugin_1]Enabled=FalseName=PlugInSpeech.dll[setupWizard]EmuPath1=C:\EmulatorsAssetPath1=C:\AssetsRomPath1=C:\RomsDefaultPathPrompt=TrueDownloadDatabasePrompt=TrueDownloadEmulatorPrompt=TrueWizardMode=1CustomArray=SearchArray=SavePosition=FalseSectionIndex=20SearchText=EmulatorIndex=0EmulatorGroupIndex=0DaphneIndex=0HTMLAppsIndex=0ExternalAppsIndex=0RadioStationsIndex=0NewsFeedsIndex=0MappedDrivesIndex=0SystemIndex=0ShowPanel=TrueFontSize=1WindowState=2WindowSize=840,1010WindowLocation=553,-12[internal]lastselected=Tron LegacyTronStern_1_2FuturePinballfilter_year=filter_company=filter_custom=filtername=Tableslastwheelcachematchsize=-1123[system_2]Name=WorkingPath=TablePath=Executable=LaunchBeforeExecutable=LaunchAfterExecutable=[Plugin_2]Enabled=FalseName=QuickLaunch (PinballX Edition).dll[Plugin_3]Enabled=FalseName=Xpadder Plugin.dll[FileSystem]EnableFileMatching=False[system_7]Name=WorkingPath=TablePath=Executable=LaunchBeforeExecutable=LaunchAfterExecutable=[Login]Enabled=False[GameListManager]onlinemode=falseLog23:24:22.3 8/29/2015: PinballX - Version 2.0323:24:22.5 8/29/2015: Windows 7 Home Premium Service Pack 1 64-bit (7.9GB)23:24:22.5 8/29/2015: Loading Settings23:24:22.5 8/29/2015: Initialize Component23:24:22.5 8/29/2015: Initialize Display23:24:23.7 8/29/2015: Loading PlugIns23:24:23.8 8/29/2015: Created DirectX BackGlass Window23:24:24.1 8/29/2015: Hiding Cursor23:24:24.1 8/29/2015: Hiding Taskbar23:24:24.2 8/29/2015: CPU: AMD Phenom II X4 925 Processor23:24:24.2 8/29/2015: GPU 1: ATI Radeon HD 5700 Series23:24:24.2 8/29/2015: Displays: 223:24:24.2 8/29/2015: Load Game List23:24:24.2 8/29/2015: Loading Database: Pinball FX223:24:24.2 8/29/2015: Loading Database: Future Pinball23:24:24.2 8/29/2015: Finding and matching artwork and videos23:24:24.5 8/29/2015: Loading Game Statistics and Scores23:24:25.1 8/29/2015: Loading Surfaces23:24:25.2 8/29/2015: Finished Loading Surfaces23:24:25.2 8/29/2015: Initialize Audio23:24:25.3 8/29/2015: Set Keyboard Controls23:24:25.3 8/29/2015: Initialize Joystick23:24:25.4 8/29/2015: 1 Joysticks Attached23:24:25.4 8/29/2015: Started23:24:32.9 8/29/2015: Launch System23:24:32.9 8/29/2015: Waiting for threads23:24:32.9 8/29/2015: Disposing display23:24:34.0 8/29/2015: C:\Games\Future Pinball\BAM\FPLoader.exe /STAYINRAM/open "C:\Games\Future Pinball\Tables\TronStern_1_2.fpt" /play /exit23:25:12.4 8/29/2015: Exit System Control Pressed23:25:15.3 8/29/2015: Created DirectX BackGlass Window23:25:18.6 8/29/2015: Exiting23:25:18.9 8/29/2015: Showing Taskbar23:25:18.9 8/29/2015: Unhiding Mouse Cursor23:25:18.9 8/29/2015: Disposing Plugins23:25:18.9 8/29/2015: Saving Settings23:25:18.9 8/29/2015: ByeHere is my ini and log without STAYINRAM:PinballX.ini [Display]Monitor=0rotate=270Windowed=FalseWindowWidth=480WindowHeight=720WindowX=0WindowY=65PlayFieldBrightness=150WheelTextColor=ffffffffWheelTextOutlineColor=ff000000InfoTextColor=ffffffffInfoTextOutlineColor=ff000000FilterTextColor=ffffffffFilterTextOutlineColor=ff000000MenuColor=ff063ad7[backGlass]monitor=1x=0y=0width=1440height=900[DMD]Enabled=Falsemonitor=1x=0y=0width=900height=300[interface]DesktopModeEnabled=FalseEnableAdditionalDetail=FalseShowSystem=FalseShowRatings=False[Audio]StreamVolume=90SampleVolume=90[startup]playsound=Trueplayvideo=True[KeyCodes]quit=27left=37right=39select=13rotate=82pageleft=33pageright=34exitemulator=27ingame=80screenshot=83screenshotbackglass=66instructions=73volumedown=109volumeup=107[JoyCodes]quit=6left=2right=0select=5rotate=pageleft=3pageright=1exitemulator=6ingame=4Instructions=10[Text]Line1=Free PlayLine2=Press Start[FuturePinball]Enabled=TrueWorkingPath=C:\Games\Future PinballTablePath=C:\Games\Future Pinball\TablesExecutable=BAM\FPLoader.exeParameters=/open "[TABLEPATH]\[TABLEFILE]" /play /exitLaunchBeforeEnabled=falseLaunchBeforeWorkingPath=LaunchBeforeExecutable=notepad.exeLaunchBeforeHideWindow=FalseLaunchBeforeWaitForExit=TrueLaunchAfterEnabled=FalseLaunchAfterWorkingPath=LaunchAfterExecutable=notepad.exeLaunchAfterHideWindow=FalseLaunchAfterWaitForExit=TrueMouseClickFocus=TrueFPRAMPath=C:\Games\Future Pinball\fpRAM[VisualPinball]Enabled=FalseWorkingPath=C:\Program Files (x86)\Visual PinballTablePath=C:\Program Files (x86)\Visual Pinball\TablesExecutable=VPinball.exeParameters=/play -"[TABLEPATH]\[TABLEFILE]"LaunchBeforeEnabled=falseLaunchBeforeWorkingPath=LaunchBeforeExecutable=notepad.exeLaunchBeforeHideWindow=FalseLaunchBeforeWaitForExit=TrueLaunchAfterEnabled=FalseLaunchAfterWorkingPath=LaunchAfterExecutable=notepad.exeLaunchAfterHideWindow=FalseLaunchAfterWaitForExit=True[ExitScreen]Enabled=TrueEnableExit=TrueEnableShutdown=True[startupProgram]Enabled=FalseWorkingPath=C:\Program Files (x86)\JoyToKeyExecutable=JoyToKey.exeParamaters=HideWindow=trueWaitForExit=false[ExitProgram]Enabled=falseWorkingPath=Executable=notepad.exeParamaters=HideWindow=FalseWaitForExit=[AttractMode]Enabled=TrueTimer=1ShowFor=15[system_1]Name=PinballFX2Enabled=FalseWorkingPath=C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Game Studios\Pinball FX2TablePath=C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Game Studios\Pinball FX2\data_steamExecutable=Pinball FX2.exeParameters=[TABLEFILE]LaunchBeforeEnabled=FalseLaunchBeforeWorkingPath=LaunchBeforeExecutable=notepad.exeLaunchBeforeHideWindow=FalseLaunchBeforeWaitForExit=TrueLaunchAfterEnabled=FalseLaunchAfterWorkingPath=LaunchAfterExecutable=notepad.exeLaunchAfterHideWindow=FalseLaunchAfterWaitForExit=True[Plugin_1]Enabled=FalseName=PlugInSpeech.dll[setupWizard]EmuPath1=C:\EmulatorsAssetPath1=C:\AssetsRomPath1=C:\RomsDefaultPathPrompt=TrueDownloadDatabasePrompt=TrueDownloadEmulatorPrompt=TrueWizardMode=1CustomArray=SearchArray=SavePosition=FalseSectionIndex=20SearchText=EmulatorIndex=0EmulatorGroupIndex=0DaphneIndex=0HTMLAppsIndex=0ExternalAppsIndex=0RadioStationsIndex=0NewsFeedsIndex=0MappedDrivesIndex=0SystemIndex=0ShowPanel=TrueFontSize=1WindowState=2WindowSize=840,1010WindowLocation=553,-12[internal]lastselected=Tron LegacyTronStern_1_2FuturePinballfilter_year=filter_company=filter_custom=filtername=Tableslastwheelcachematchsize=-1123[system_2]Name=WorkingPath=TablePath=Executable=LaunchBeforeExecutable=LaunchAfterExecutable=[Plugin_2]Enabled=FalseName=QuickLaunch (PinballX Edition).dll[Plugin_3]Enabled=FalseName=Xpadder Plugin.dll[FileSystem]EnableFileMatching=False[system_7]Name=WorkingPath=TablePath=Executable=LaunchBeforeExecutable=LaunchAfterExecutable=[Login]Enabled=False[GameListManager]onlinemode=false Log10:26:30.5 8/30/2015: PinballX - Version 2.0310:26:30.6 8/30/2015: Windows 7 Home Premium Service Pack 1 64-bit (7.9GB)10:26:30.6 8/30/2015: Loading Settings10:26:30.6 8/30/2015: Initialize Component10:26:30.7 8/30/2015: Initialize Display10:26:32.0 8/30/2015: Loading PlugIns10:26:32.1 8/30/2015: Created DirectX BackGlass Window10:26:32.2 8/30/2015: Hiding Cursor10:26:32.3 8/30/2015: Hiding Taskbar10:26:32.3 8/30/2015: CPU: AMD Phenom II X4 925 Processor10:26:32.3 8/30/2015: GPU 1: ATI Radeon HD 5700 Series10:26:32.3 8/30/2015: Displays: 210:26:32.3 8/30/2015: Load Game List10:26:32.4 8/30/2015: Loading Database: Pinball FX210:26:32.4 8/30/2015: Loading Database: Future Pinball10:26:32.4 8/30/2015: Finding and matching artwork and videos10:26:32.7 8/30/2015: Loading Game Statistics and Scores10:26:33.3 8/30/2015: Loading Surfaces10:26:33.5 8/30/2015: Finished Loading Surfaces10:26:33.5 8/30/2015: Initialize Audio10:26:33.6 8/30/2015: Set Keyboard Controls10:26:33.6 8/30/2015: Initialize Joystick10:26:33.7 8/30/2015: 1 Joysticks Attached10:26:33.7 8/30/2015: Started10:26:35.5 8/30/2015: Launch System10:26:35.5 8/30/2015: Waiting for threads10:26:35.5 8/30/2015: Disposing display10:26:36.7 8/30/2015: C:\Games\Future Pinball\BAM\FPLoader.exe /open "C:\Games\Future Pinball\Tables\TronStern_1_2.fpt" /play /exit10:26:37.7 8/30/2015: Created DirectX BackGlass Window10:27:16.1 8/30/2015: Created DirectX BackGlass Window10:27:20.7 8/30/2015: Exiting10:27:20.9 8/30/2015: Showing Taskbar10:27:20.9 8/30/2015: Unhiding Mouse Cursor10:27:20.9 8/30/2015: Disposing Plugins10:27:20.9 8/30/2015: Saving Settings10:27:20.9 8/30/2015: Bye Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draco1962 Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 Your issue may or may not be the same. Post your pinballx.ini and log.txt files so we can have a look to be certain. Click the PinballX How to ask for help link in my signature if you do not know where to find or how to attach them to this thread. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
williamsbg03 Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 Sorry Draco1926, I just updated my original post to include the ini file and log contents for both states. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draco1962 Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 Not a problem. I do not run this (BAM) but there are plenty of users in the forums that do and I am sure that one of them will step up to review the files you have provided. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
williamsbg03 Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 I tried running BAM's FPLoader directly with the STAYINRAM parameter and the same issue exists so this is not an issue with PinballX. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
williamsbg03 Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 I solved my issue. I forgot that BAM has issues with ATI/AMD graphic cards not running at least v12 of the catalyst drivers. I updated to the latest drivers and BAM is now working properly with the STAYINRAM parameter. Skyohn, this may be the issue for you as well. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockyrocket Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 Hi Skyohn, looking at your ini it seems you are starting future pinball and not Bam through pinballXIeWorkingPath=C:\Games\Future PinballShould maybe beWorkingPath=C:\Games\Future Pinball\BAM\Then point to FPLoader.exe and not Future Pinball.exePersonally I rename FPLoader to Future Pinball.exe and use the settings below hope this helps :-). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skyohn Posted August 31, 2015 Author Share Posted August 31, 2015 I solved my issue. I forgot that BAM has issues with ATI/AMD graphic cards not running at least v12 of the catalyst drivers. I updated to the latest drivers and BAM is now working properly with the STAYINRAM parameter. Skyohn, this may be the issue for you as well.Updating my Catalyst driver to the latest version correct my issue.I should have checked my driver version from the start, when I setup windows initially I used my drivers disc that came with my AMD 6950 gpu. I was using version 8.801.0.0000, I am now updated to the latest Catalyst driver 15.20.1062.1004. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skyohn Posted August 31, 2015 Author Share Posted August 31, 2015 Hi Skyohn, looking at your ini it seems you are starting future pinball and not Bam through pinballXIeWorkingPath=C:\Games\Future PinballShould maybe beWorkingPath=C:\Games\Future Pinball\BAM\Then point to FPLoader.exe and not Future Pinball.exePersonally I rename FPLoader to Future Pinball.exe and use the settings below hope this helps :-).Capture.PNGThat wasn't my issue, my issue was with my AMD Catalyst Driver version, I was using a version that was not supported by BAM. Updating my driver to the latest version corrected the problem I was seeing with PinballX not loading the BAM settings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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