[RESOLVED] Missing games

[mgede]

Hi,

There are some games that are missing on my gamelist, but they show and play great using mame 0.162 command line or default GUI.

Progear

Snow bros

Tetris the grandmaster 2

Could please someone help me with what's happening.

Thanks

gamelist.txt

GameEx.ini

log.txt

[Evilforces]

I have same version and can confirm this 3 games are on my Gammex list. It seems a filter issue. Have you any filters on your setup?

[mgede]

Thanks for your reply Evilforces.

I am filtering some roms on my Gameex.ini but any of this games is on the filter...

[Evilforces]

you can add this roms to your "dont filter roms list"

Have you "i want clones" option activated?

[mgede]

Yes if I add those roms to "dont filter list" they show up after a scan.

It's very difficult to know if there are more filtered roms like this, without checking them one by one.

Just don't know why are them filtered. They shouldn't be filtered on first instance!

Clones option is on "no clones unless better" (value 1).

Thanks

[Evilforces]

The only solution I can think of is to try to remove some of the terms of your filter to see if you get better results.

Clearly this is not a problem generating the list of GameEx (or so it seems).

What I would do is remove some words of your filter(Korea;Asia;Bootleg;French;German;Hack;Prototype;Hardware;Casino;Poker;Mahjong;Playchoice;(Easy;(harder) to test which one is the one that makes your games are not shown. Remember to clear your "don't filter roms list" before this, to make sure the filters are correct generating the list.

In my case I don't have the same filters as you (have some less) and these games are perfectly on my list, but it is possible that my list is not as clean as yours.

A greeting.

[mgede]

Just did a clean install now. Uninstalled GameEx and deleted the c:\gameex folder, manually removed all entries on registry about GameEx. Rebooted.

Downloaded a new copy of MAME64 (mame0162b_64bit.exe), created a mame.ini file and pointed it to my roms directory.

Same with GameEx, downloaded last version from Tom's website and installed it on c:\gameex.

Edited GameEx.ini file just to change default mame and roms paths.

It scanned for games on startup. When it finished, same results, same missing games.

I attach all the info I have, showing the game on MAME GUI list and running without any issues.

Thanks again

GameEx.ini

mame.ini

[Evilforces]

Can you try with this settings?:

VerifyRoms=False

OnlyRoms=True

NoGameInfo=True

GameFilter=French;German;Prototype;(Easy;(harder

NOTE: Remember to update list after change this options.

[nullPointer]

Hi mgede

You might want to try disabling Verify Roms and rebuilding your list. Especially when you're running the absolute most recent version of MAME you may have some ROMs that are failing verification according to your MAME version.

Edit:

What Evilforces said!

Edited June 15, 2015 by nullPointer

[mgede]

I tried your settings and removed verify.dat file.

VerifyRoms=False

OnlyRoms=True

NoGameInfo=True

GameFilter=French;German;Prototype;(Easy;(harder

Got same results. This is with a clean Mame / GameEx install.

Thanks for helping me out

[mgede]

nullPointer, should I understand that MAME 0.162 isn't supported yet?

Thanks

[tthurman]

It's not that MAME 0.162 isn't supported, but instead it is that 0.162 and forward (at least in the foreseable future) represents a massive change in which MAME and MESS are now officially merged. This is a game changer for frontends

From mamedev

MAME 0.162 27 May 2015

MAME 0.162 is now available.

MESS is now integral part of MAME and will be distributed as such.

Thanks to everyone that contacted us regarding licenses for their part of project
we have managed to cover more then 96% of source to be under some of open source license.
We are still in the process of contacting past contributors in order to sort this out.
If you have contributed and we have not contacted you yet, please contact us

Note that output XML is changed so rom managers and frontends need to get updated too.

I "think" in time things will settle out, and get back to more of a state of normalcy. For now, 0.161 is what I'm sticking with due to this. If you are a early adopter, you can probably expect a bit more aggravation and random issues, at least for a while, IMO.

Since GameEx is in active support, it is being addressed FYI.

[mgede]

Thanks for your reply, I know that this 162 release has been a big change in terms that frontends should handle MAME in a different way because of the MAME & MESS merge.

Anyways I thought that it was my configuration problem. Since there isn't any official statement on your website regarding this, I assumed that it was working without issues for everyone else.

On a different approach, we don't have a lot of information on how games are imported to the db so its just my guess (after reading my logs):

1 - Calls mame to generate a listinfo.dat file

2 - Parses the listinfo.dat file

3 - Imports the games on DB applying filters set on .ini

What I understand is that is failing at step2 for some games, because they show up on listinfo.dat XML and not on gameex db.

[nullPointer]

nullPointer, should I understand that MAME 0.162 isn't supported yet?

Nope what I was getting at is that it looks like you're running the absolute latest and greatest version of MAME (mame0162b). This means that if you're not keeping your ROMs up to date accordingly it's likely that some of them will pop up as being invalid (regardless of how well they actually work). That being said it sounds like you are probably on top of that aspect.

In the past, there's some confusion as to how the Verify ROMs feature in GameEx works. It's not a 'GameEx verification' at all. It just runs the -verifyroms switch against your MAME executable and adjusts your game list accordingly. The 'verification' aspect isn't on the GameEx side, but rather the MAME side.

It would probably be helpful to obtain up to date MAME data files which match your version of MAME (mameinfo.dat, history.dat, catver.ini) and adjust your settings to point towards those new files. This can actually have a significant aspect on how your game list is built.

[tthurman]

I thought 14.10 addressed these issues as well as what OverPower89 was experiencing in this thread with 0.149, but it seems he hasn't reported back.

That said, it's entirely possible everything isn't 100% yet.

Could be a long shot, but as flash mentions in the other thread, he moves everything into the MAME folder. I use headkaze's compiler, and pull down the source code instead of the binary. When it's done I just pull over the entire contents into my mame folder in GameEx. Seems a stretch to think that's it, but it is the main thing I see different.

When you "update" inside GameEx, is everything updating properly?

[mgede]

I've tried greatflash method about moving those files to MAME folder without any luck.

Everything is updating properly since it begins with an empty db file (4kb) and it fills up after an update.

My binary is from mamedev.org, hope there isn't any difference with the one you built from source.

Is 0.162 showing snowbros and tgm2 games on your setup?

[Tom Speirs]

Hi,

I will look at this shortly. I suspect GameEx needs some more tweaks for 0.162. As I said in another topic, please provide rom names of all games with issues.

UPDATE: I see no reason why those games would be filtered so its some other issue. I suspect they simpler don't verify. Maybe due to an older ROM set.

[Tom Speirs]

Actually it is a bug related to 0.162. Looking at it now.

[Tom Speirs]

Fixed in 14.11

[Evilforces]

Hi Tom,

I don't understand why some people (like me) can see this games on their list and other like mgede have this problem...

What's the reason?

Thanks.

[mgede]

Thank you so much for the release, Tom!

It's fixed right now they show up again with 0.162 romset