gamepimp Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 Hi all. For some reason, SSF crashes shortly after I start playing a game. But this only seems to happen when I'm starting the emulator thru GameEx. When I run the emulator from the executable, there are no issues. Any thoughts on what might be going wrong? I think Adultery had a similar issue in this thread. But I don't see the root cause ever discussed... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adultery Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 Were you still doing this:LaunchBefore=""C:\Program Files\DAEMON Tools Lite\DTLite.exe" -mount 0,"[ROMPATH]\[ROMFILE]""LaunchAfter=cmd.exe /c "C:\Program Files\DAEMON Tools Lite\DTLite.exe" -unmount 0Cuz you should be doing this now:LaunchBefore=LaunchAfter=Command=ssf.exe [VirtualDrive]:\Should work fine, or it does for me anyways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fRequEnCy Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 Would also help if you exported your config and posted so we can have a look see. Also the ini file for the emulator settings in the emulator directory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gamepimp Posted January 16, 2012 Author Share Posted January 16, 2012 Adultery, I've tried the [VIRTUALDRIVE]:\ command w/o any success. But maybe I'm doing something wrong. Am I supposed to put that exact statement right after SSF.exe? Or am I supposed to put the letter of my DT Lite drive? Would u mind sharing ur full emulator .ini so I can see if there's anything else I'm missing?And Frequency, I will post those files u mentioned tonight if I still can't get this to work w/ Adultery's help.Thx guys! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adultery Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 Here's mine from the GameEx.ini:[Emulator_21]PlayMusic=FalseCustomArtName2=AdvertisementBoxPath=F:\Emulators\SSF\Artwork\BoxRemoveBrackets=TrueReplaceUnder=FalseTITLETEXT=Sega SaturnCustomArtName1=Box (Back)ImageNotFound=F:\Images\no_img.pngPCGame=FalseSTARTPAGENAME=SEGA SaturnCartPath=F:\Emulators\SSF\Artwork\CDInfo=Sega Saturn emulatorWorkingPath=F:\Emulators\SSFCapitals=FalseCustomArtPath1=F:\Emulators\SSF\Artwork\BoxBackTitlePath=F:\Emulators\SSF\Artwork\TitleEmulator=SSFCommand=ssf.exe [VIRTUALDRIVE]:\SnapPath=F:\Emulators\SSF\Artwork\SnapDownloadUrl=http://www.gamesdbase.com/setupwizard/emulators/download/SSF.7zPlayInScreenSaver=FalseEnabled=TrueRequiredFiles=Bios - SEGA_101.BIN and stv110.bin (512kb each)SelectionMusicFolder=F:\EmuMusicManualPath=F:\Emulators\SSF\Artwork\ManualLaunchBefore=LaunchAfter=MapKeys=TrueSystem=Sega SaturnconfigFile=[Mapping Off] Exit (Process Close)ROMFilter=*.cuePlaySelectionMusic=FalseWebsite=http://www7a.biglobe.ne.jp/~phantasy/ssf/index.htmlStartPageLogo=Sega SaturnCustomArtPath2=F:\Emulators\SSF\Artwork\AdvertDebug=FalseControlPanelPath=F:\Images\Controls\Emulators\Saturn.pngCDCheck=FalseRomPath=F:\Emulators\SSF\RomsDontShowInfo=FalseVersion=Ver0.12 alphaReplaceDash=FalseGameExtenderCustomArtPath=F:\Images\MarqueeMagician\Emus\SAT.pngRandomMostPlayed=TrueGamesIn7Zips=FalseCategory=ConsoleShowDesktop=TrueCustomBackground=Back-Sega_Saturn.pngUseDbName=FalseDATABASE=[Console] Sega SaturnShowMostPlayed=TrueAlsoLaunch=MusicPath=TVAdPath=VideoSnapPath= Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gamepimp Posted January 16, 2012 Author Share Posted January 16, 2012 Mine looks the same. When I try to run SSF now, it tries to launch the emulator and then returns me to GameEx. In the log file, I find this comment:16:55:38.2 1/16/2012: Unable to mount ISO. Did you install ISO Support when installing GameEx?I'm guessing this is my issue? How do install ISO support? The game I was trying to load had.bin and .cue files. They weren't .iso. And I'm trying to run the game thru DT Lite, not Virtual CD. Thoughts?I've attached GameEx.ini and SSF.ini in case that might be helpful. Thx!GameEx.txtSSF.txt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draco1962 Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 Download from the main site www.gameex.com the latest version. When running the setup, select "Install Karaoke and ISO Mounting Support" and click next and proceed with the installation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gamepimp Posted January 17, 2012 Author Share Posted January 17, 2012 Ok. Just tried that. But still have the same issue. Log file says "Unable to mount ISO. Did you install ISO Support when installing GameEx?" Do I need to do a clean install of GameEx? If so, what do I need to save in order to bring it back to the state it is now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adultery Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 I didn't have Game Mounting Support installed (I have always only used DT), so maybe you need to uninstall Virtual Clone Drive from Add/Remove Programs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gamepimp Posted January 17, 2012 Author Share Posted January 17, 2012 I actually removed VCD awhile back when I installed DT Lite.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adultery Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 I hate to ask, but your DT is up to date right?Just to clarify, if you installed ISO Mounting Support from GameEx's installer you installed VCD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gamepimp Posted January 17, 2012 Author Share Posted January 17, 2012 DT Lite was installed about a month ago. So it's def current. I'll have to check and see if VCD was re-installed last night when I installed GameEx w/ the ISO Mounting Support checked. It may have been. If it was, I'll remove it. But prior to installing ISO Mounting Support last night, I did not have VCD and was still getting the "Unable to mount ISO. Did you install ISO Support when installing GameEx?" error msg. So I'm not sure my issue has anything to do w/ VCD. I seem to recall reading a forum post regarding how the DT Lite drive had to be named for GameEx to recognize it. Does that ring a bell with anyone? If so, what would be the appropriate name for the drive? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draco1962 Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 Well there was your post with reference to DT Lite for PC Engine. Was this the one you were thinking about? Seems like there might have been a few others as well. I beleive that the name of the drive is assigned by DT Lite at install. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adultery Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 Yeah I didn't do anything special to DT Lite other tha install it and set it to run at startup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gamepimp Posted January 17, 2012 Author Share Posted January 17, 2012 I hv my DT Lite drive setup as a SCSI drive. Would that matter? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Speirs Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 I hv my DT Lite drive setup as a SCSI drive. Would that matter?You may need to rename the manufacturer of the drive to DTSoft Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gamepimp Posted January 18, 2012 Author Share Posted January 18, 2012 I'll give that a shot. Thx Tom! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gamepimp Posted January 19, 2012 Author Share Posted January 19, 2012 Ok. I think getting this emulator to work with the embeded CD mounting feature will be the death of me. LOL. So I setup a virtual "DT" drive that has a manufacturer name of DTSoft. It is drive D:\ on my computer. Looking at the log file, it seems that GameEx now recognizes this drive:17:23:34.2 1/19/2012: Restoring Emulator from Cache17:23:37.9 1/19/2012: Creating instance of global keyboard hook17:23:37.9 1/19/2012: Running: cmd.exe /c C: SSF.exe d:\17:23:38.1 1/19/2012: Shutting down displayHowever, it does not appear that a disk is mounting when I attempt to launch a game. I don't see a file loaded on the drive when I have GameEx running in a window and the DT Lite window up as well. I also get an error msg right away from Windows saying that SSF.exe has stopped working. Does GameEx mount a disk image using the command line parameters that were necessary when using the "launch before" and "launch after" fxns? If so, I think the newer version of DT Lite uses a slightly different command line than what others have reported previously. Most people say they use "C:\Program Files (x86)\DAEMON Tools Lite\DTLite.exe" -mount dt 0, "[RomPath]\[RomFile]". But I've only been able to get a disk to mount with this command line: "C:\Program Files (x86)\DAEMON Tools Lite\DTLite.exe" -mount dt, 0, "[RomPath]\[RomFile]". The only difference is an extra comma before the zero.That's the only thing I can think of that might potentially be an issue. Although I might be (and probably am) totally wrong on this. Any thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adultery Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 Did you set the DT drive as default in SSF? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gamepimp Posted January 20, 2012 Author Share Posted January 20, 2012 Yes, it's the default drive in SSF. Don't know if this is helpful or not, but most of the time I get an error msg in SSF that says "CFile::CFile() error." But I can play games just fine when I mount the disk in DT Lite and then fire up SSF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fRequEnCy Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 Please export your emulator config so I can see how you have it setup now. From your GameEx.ini that you posted before, it seems that you had it mounting twice. From the launch before and in the command-line. So I would really like to see this file to troubleshoot and narrow things down.[Emulator_20]STARTPAGENAME=Sega SaturnTITLETEXT=Sega SaturnStartPageLogo=Sega SaturnWorkingPath=C:\Users\Arcade\SSFRomPath=F:\Games\SEGA\SATURN\GAMESCommand=SSF.exe [VIRTUALDRIVE]:\SnapPath=VideoSnapPath=TitlePath=BoxPath=CartPath=DATABASE=LaunchBefore="C:\Program Files (x86)\DAEMON Tools Lite\DTLite.exe" -mount scsi, 0, "[RomPath]\[RomFile]"LaunchAfter="C:\Program Files (x86)\DAEMON Tools Lite\DTLite.exe" -unmount scsi, 0configFile=[Mapping Off] Exit (Process Close)SendKeys=ROMFilter=*.cueReplaceDash=TrueReplaceUnder=TrueCapitals=TrueRemoveBrackets=TrueShowDesktop=FalseGamesIn7Zips=TrueRomsInFolders=TrueShowMostPlayed=FalseEnabled=TrueRandomMostPlayed=FalseWaitBeforeKeys=MapKeys=True Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gamepimp Posted January 20, 2012 Author Share Posted January 20, 2012 Interesting. Thx for pointing that out Frequency. I wonder if my .ini file has the "launch before" and "launch after" info even tho I cleared it in the setup wizard. I'll post the current .ini as well as the SSF config file tonight when I get home... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fRequEnCy Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 Interesting. Thx for pointing that out Frequency. I wonder if my .ini file has the "launch before" and "launch after" info even tho I cleared it in the setup wizard. I'll post the current .ini as well as the SSF config file tonight when I get home...Sounds good. Seems you been trying to get this going for awhile now. If you want, we can meet in chat later on for real-time support. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gamepimp Posted January 21, 2012 Author Share Posted January 21, 2012 Here are the GameEx.ini and SSF.ini files. Unfortunately, my wife and I have plans this evening. But would there be a time this wknd we could meet up to try to troubleshoot this? LMK. Thx Frequency!GameEx.txtSSF.txt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adultery Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 [Emulator_20]STARTPAGENAME=Sega SaturnTITLETEXT=Sega SaturnStartPageLogo=Sega SaturnWorkingPath=C:\Users\Arcade\SSFRomPath=F:\Games\SEGA\SATURN\GAMESCommand=SSF.exe [VIRTUALDRIVE]:\SnapPath=VideoSnapPath=TitlePath=BoxPath=CartPath=DATABASE=LaunchBefore=LaunchAfter=configFile=[Mapping Off] Exit (Process Close)SendKeys=ROMFilter=*.cueReplaceDash=TrueReplaceUnder=TrueCapitals=TrueRemoveBrackets=TrueShowDesktop=FalseGamesIn7Zips=FalseRomsInFolders=TrueShowMostPlayed=FalseEnabled=TrueRandomMostPlayed=FalseWaitBeforeKeys=MapKeys=TrueLooks right to me...When you try running a game, does GameEx pop up a dialog box? Also, if you run in Windowed Mode, can you watch My Computer and make sure it's mounting a disc? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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