hi tom ive been banging my head for a few days and what it looks like the problem is something to do with cliff hanger and the way it relates to game ex it doesnt seem like after booting game ex and playing cill hanger that it is dumping the cliff hanger frame file for one reason or another ive tried all my other daphne games ie.. dragons lair, goal to go, dragons lair 2 time warp, space ace etc.. they all work through game ex no problems just as long as i dont play cliff hanger through game ex everything is fine but once i launch cliff hanger every time i select another game through the front end it will boot the game (cliff hanger) over the top of the other game for some reason as if both games were being played at the same time??? kinda strange any insight on this?? ive checked all my framefile arguments and dont see anything strange from the config menu and all looks good any help wolud be great!!! thanks again!! Jason