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That is why I had to kill PinballX, my experience has been it somehow messes timing up. I had the same issue with my own AutoHotKey script, before that would click through all the options in PBA, it would run 100% correct as long as it was NOT through PinballX. If it was launched through PinballX, it would not work. With my work around (killing PinballX), it works well now. (Aside from the last table thing) I am also not sure how much of this is OS dependent if at all. I am using Windows 8.1 64 bit for my setup.

My pinball cabinet is a 3 monitor setup. Still slowly fixing/arranging animated backglass/playfield/DMD/sound/wheel/camera mod media, takes time.

For any interested, this is how my integration of PBA into PinballX looks. It is now faster than PBFX launching tables. I still have to work out the logic to make it remember last PBA table launched from within PinballX. It looks like it this directive in pinballx.ini: lastselected=Addams FamilyAddamsFamilySystem_4

Yes I have it set to 0 also, if you set it to 1 it gives the warning and never launches the table you pass. I think it is because when you select the table from the command line you are telling it to launch the game, so having both creates that. As for your 2nd issue, you have that happen when you are outside of using PinballX? For example If you just lauch freecammod.exe -table BridePB Does this 2nd issue occur?

OK I figured out how to work around this issue if anyone else experiences what I did. I created an AHK with this that I converted to an EXE and named it run.exe: Process, Close, pinballx.exe Run C:\locationforfreecameramod\TPAFreeCamMod.exe -table %1% ~Escape:: Process, Close, PinballArcade11.exe Run C:\Pinballx\PinballX.exe ExitAPP return I configured Other Sytems for PBA, I disabled integrated support in PinballX. Select System: 4:PBA Name/Folder: PBA Enabled: Yes System Type: Custom Working Path: C:\games\PBAmod Table Path: C:\games\PBAmod Executable: run.exe Parameters: [TABLEFILE] Process to monitor: PinballArcade11.exe I renamed all the game name= lines in my PBA.xml in databases to match the table names from http://pastebin.com/8azvyP8B From PinballX I can now launch any PBA table I have in PBA.xml. The table loads right to the info page on that table. I just hit my plunger 2 times and the table starts. If I press ESCAPE then PinballArcade11 closes and PinballX reloads. It is a jury rig but seems to work OK. The only real issue remaining is that when PinballX reloads after playing a PBA table, it does not return to the game you selected in PinballX. So if your last played table was in the A's and you launch a PBA table in the R's, when you go back in your back at the A's. Even with that issue I don't mind, this is allot nicer now.

You might want to look through the threads on their forum to figure out what issue you might be having. When I first setup free camera mod I followed this document: http://docdro.id/v0xpdE2 I also read through the forums, you absolutely need to have the correct version of Freecameramod to match up with the DX11 version or free camera mod won't inject. To keep things working when you get them working with Freecameramod you use a firewall or block Internet to your cab and you run Steam in offline mode. If PBA updates, then free camera mod won't match anymore and wont inject and wont work. Same with free camera mod in my experience. If it is updated to handle 1.58.10 of PBA, but you are on 1.58.4, it won't work. It is best to get them working, then block their ability to communicate to the Internet. And remember free camera mod to run offline, needs to be online to be able to download its OfflineData.m0d that seems to be version specific from what I have read here. (once you have the offlinedata file, you can cut its access off then) http://pinballarcadefans.com/showthread.php/10120-Discussion-thread-about-the-FreeCamera-Mod

I made this script: Process, Close, pinballx.exe Sleep, 3000 Run C:\games\PBaMOD\TPAFreeCamMod.exe -table %1% Compiled as an exe. If I use this and pass just [TABLEFILE] to this exe above PBA then opens and each table launches OK. So it seems PinballX is causing some issue for me. I hate to jury rig this, but does anyone know how to make autohotkey terminate a process if the ESC key is pressed? If I change the above script to be: Process, Close, pinballx.exe Sleep, 3000 Run C:\games\PBaMOD\TPAFreeCamMod.exe -table %1% Wait for ESC to be pressed, if it is, close PinballArcade11.exe (whatever would accomplish this in AHK) Run C:\PinballX\pinballx.exe Then I could work around whatever it is.

So I confirmed that this works great with tpafreecammod, If I launch tpafreecammod -table anytablenamefromdocument PBA loads, main menu comes up and then the table I specified loads to the intro screen! Awesome, I feel like I am so close to finally getting PBA games working from within PinballX! Problem starts when trying to get this to work with PinballX. First I had to rename all by database entries for each game to match the naming convention in the pastebin document. I then set this up as an other system with this: Select System: 4:PBA NAme/Folder: PBA Enabled: Yes System Type: Custom Working Path: C:\games\PBAmod Table Path: C:\games\PBAmod Executable: TPAFreeCamMod.exe Parameters: -table [TABLEFILE] process to monitor: PinballArcade11.exe Any PBA table I select in PinballX, launches TPAFreeCamMod.exe (I see it flash in the taskbar corner indicating it hooked into pinballarcade11.exe) and then my primary screen stays black for a while (meanwhile backglass changes to indicate PBA is loading and freecammod is running because the backglass image indicates that) then when it finally goes from black to active on playscreen it is just sitting at the PBA main menu, no table selection occurs at that point like when I just manually run tpafreecammod -table anytablenamefromdocument

Anyone try this out yet? http://pinballarcadefans.com/showthread.php/10199-DOWNLOAD-Pinball-Arcade-Free-Camera-Mod?p=255453&viewfull=1#post255453 A new mod's version (v1.78) is available ! Changelog: - Updated to work with game's version 1.58.5 DX11. - Added new table (WorldTour) support. New features: - Right-click menu on mod's traybar icon, to generate offline file, settings (coming soon), etc. - Direct table launching for pincab frontends (PinballX, etc), add "-table tablename" to mod's command line, here is a list of available table names. (Don't forget to set path to game executable in Settings.ini file otherwise the game won't start.) The mod is now auto-updating and downloads the new build if the executable has been modified, just restart it to download the new version.

For comparison, this is how tables launch for me with the older version of PBFX with PinballX: Allot faster. Anyone using the current version of PBFX that has them launching like this video through PinballX?

I was launching PBFX (through integrated support, not other systems) the same before as now. With the updated PBFX it now launches the way in my video. I am just trying to figure out why it changed to doing it this way now, where as before it loaded the table directly. (And MUCH faster) And when I saw it do it this way, it looked like it could easily then just select hotseat. So did something break in pinballx integrated support with the newer pinballx release? It launches different now.

OK, can someone do me a favor, watch my youtube video here: Is that what pinballx does for you guys when you load tables for PBFX? With the previous version of PBFX I had before this, when I would select one of the tables, it would go directly to the loading screen of the PBFX table, Not show the microsoft logo, then show the title screen, then select 1st player. Before it would go from pinballX directly to the loading screen for each table and be in 1 player mode by default (you would not see the MS logo/intro/player selection) You can see with my example it does not even select the 1st player properly on the 1st table I try loading (I would have had to hit enter to make it continue), when I select epic quest, it does the intro/etc then selects 1 player fine and continues to load.

Oh wow, then it must be me. Sorry guys, that's weird. Before I updated PBFX to the current version it was only taking my cabinet like 2 seconds from when I selected a PBFX in Pinball X till it was loading the table then like shortly later I was playing. The logo for PBFX was NEVER coming up (and having to wait for it to draw it out). Now it is. So if some script is running from PinballX to select 1 player, can't it just be made to go one more key down to do hotseat?

I don't actually own RogueOne yet, I meant the update to support it. (1.0.38.3) Just update in Steam and see if you experience what I did. This change might have occurred previous to 1.0.38.3. I don't recall what version I was on before I updated, but before when I would select a table in PinballX for PBFX, it would launch directly into the PBFX table loading screen then the table would be up. (like 2 seconds till the PBFX table would be in a loading state) Now the logo for pinball FX comes up, then what looks like an autohotkey script selects the table I selected in PinballX, and chooses 1 player then loads. (Takes like 8-10 seconds till it is loading the table now) So that led me to believe they maybe made it easier to select other options on command line? Can anyone else confirm this behavior now with a current version of PinballFX 1.0.38.3 or greater (not sure if that is the newest version at the moment)

Thanks! Same with me, planning on doing Visual Pinball and this will help allot.

Notice with the new update that Rogue One is supported on, that cabinet mode launching is different. (Not sure if this changed possibly with versions of pbfx before this?) Version 1.0.38.3 - I am not certain this update is to support Rogue One. Or if this behavior changed with a different minor version from 1.0.xx.x. Now instead of going directly to the loading screen for each table, when PBFX comes up, it displays the animated logo, then it selects one player (like a script is running it and selecting) then the table loads. Adds several seconds onto the loading of each table now, but my question is there some possibility it can be set to launch multiplayer now? Did command line options change now for pbfx cabinet mode?

Also confirmed if I kill pinballx.exe as soon as my AHK launches, it works fine launching and selecting in the game. If I don't it does not. Is there something I can disable in PinballX that might be getting in the way with this to test? Edit: switching to one single AHK compiled as an EXE has the same issue, if I add a statement to kill PinballX.exe first, all keystrokes work fine consistently.

Yeah I only wound up with the AHK within the batch because it evolved into that. I had started out with a batch file using nircmd and when I had that working perfectly, again called from PinballX, nothing worked the same. I even tried some other command line mouse.exe tool, same deal would work fine outside of PinballX but would act differently when launched through it. Yeah I had already experiemented with key delays, the AHK I have above works 100% of the time and has the same exact delays between keystrokes every time called on its own. Through PinballX, it seems like it changes each run. Sometimes a right key does not register, but then another time it goes over 2 instead of just one.. I guess I will try that next I just figured PinballX must be doing something and was hoping someone knew what is going on here. And yeah I know I should probably just do this all in Visual Pinball and be able to actually launch my individual tables from within PinballX, (and actually control it with the buttons I have installed in my cabinet) it might come to that. I am not familiar with all the ins and outs yet with that application. I just finished my 3 screen cabinet a few weeks ago and got Pinball Fx2 setup the way I want it, and was hoping to get this taped together enough so I would not have to take the time to get to know and tweak all the Visual Pinball tables right away. I had planned on doing that at some point. Maybe I will do it sooner if I cant find a solution. Thanks

This is driving me crazy. I have runme.exe (which is a compiled batch file) that launches PBA DX11 though cameramod, uses autohotkey and presses enter right after it is launched, goes to the table menu (up key, then right key, then enter) then moves the mouse cursor to the up down arrows on the right side of the screen so I can scroll up and down to select which game I want to play. Until there is better table selection I figure this is easier for me. I just have a menu item in Pinball X to launch PBA (not picking any table, because that is REALLY slow and is rarely accurate) After my batch file runs and I am at the table selection screen I can use a wireless xbox 360 controller (as a mouse) till something is better in the future. Outside of pinballx, my compiled batch file works 100% of the time, and is really fast compared to doing it with PinballX. When run from pinballx as an other sytem, it is always hit or miss if it makes it to the table screen. It looks like Pinball X is somehow making it so my key selection timing is different every time it is launched. It is hard to describe. I just know when I use runme.exe outside of PinballX it works every time. This is the relevant from my pinballx config: [System_4] Name=PBA WorkingPath=C:\games\PinballArcade\mod TablePath=C:\games\PinballArcade\mod Executable=runme.exe Parameters= WaitForProcess=PinballArcade11.exe WaitFor=-1 Enabled=True SystemType=0 LaunchBeforeEnabled=False LaunchBeforeWorkingPath=C:\games\PinballArcade\mod LaunchBeforeExecutable= LaunchBeforeWaitForExit=False LaunchBeforeHideWindow=True LaunchAfterEnabled=False LaunchAfterWorkingPath=C:\games\PinballArcade\mod LaunchAfterExecutable= LaunchAfterWaitForExit=False LaunchAfterHideWindow=False This is runme.exe (in bat form:) @echo off cd c:\games\PinballArcade\mod start TPAFreeCamMod.exe autohotkey send.data.ahk This is send.data.ahk: Sleep, 10000 WinActivate ("Pinball Arcade DX11") Send, {Enter down} Sleep 100 Send, {Enter up} Sleep, 500 Send, {Up down} Sleep 100 Send, {Up up} Sleep, 500 Send, {Right down} Sleep 100 Send, {Right up} Sleep, 500 Send, {Enter down} Sleep 100 Send, {Enter up} Sleep, 500 MouseMove, 920, 1200 return The Sleep, 10000 is required because PinballX takes so long to return to the PBA screen after it launches my exe. If I run the batch/exe outside of PinballX I can make that as low as 2 seconds and I am at the table selection screen in like 4 seconds.

Well I tried converting the original .bat to an exe and that seems to work fine now. Using PinballX to launch the same as a .bat instead of an exe does not seem to work. Now the only issue I seem to have, anyone know why PinballX takes at least 8 seconds to show the application it launches? I even removed the loading screen image and I get a black screen for like 7 - 8 seconds before the Pinball Arcade logo screen shows up on my main screen. TPAFreeCaMMod is already displaying the default black glass, then around 5 seconds later it appears on my main screen. If I load my batch to exe launcher file on its own from windows, it shows up right away.

So I got tired of trying to make PinballX do table section in a timely manner for Pinball Arcade DX11 with camera mod. I have a simple batch file that launches TPAFreeCamMod then with nircmdc pushes enter twice to get to the main menu in TPA, then it sets the cursor to the tables menu then left clicks. If I run this batch file I can be at table selection in like 3 seconds. My question, is when I try to run this same batch file from PinballX other systems in the "Executable" section it won't work. It just comes back to PinballX when you select a game with this "Other System" If I remove TPAFreeCamMod from the batch file and launch that as the exe for this other system, then it launches from PinballX, and I can run my batch file in the launch before and it works, but window focus seems to be messed up. Should I be able to launch a .bat file as the main Executable for an other system? Or is it ONLY .EXE's? Edit: Changed the title of my question since this turned into a different question, determined that batch file as the main executable does not seem to work, exe (compiled batch) is fine. Curious if anyone has encountered the same I describe down below and figured a way around this.

Interesting, checked Zaccaria Pinball simulator out earlier today after seeing this thread. Not bad from the demo I have seen. Great contribution/work!

Ahh OK, glad I asked then. Without crossing that line, it does look like they are doing this on purpose, and I hope there are more hobbyists as we move forward demanding this functionality and they change that in the future.

Actually before posting this I should probably ask, is it OK to discuss things about Pinball Arcade (with modding the app) to maybe make it more cabinet friendly?

Yeah I have seen the request that go back years, I have also seen the discussion how previous methods of game selection broke when they changed the UI at some point. Anyone know with the previous UI of PinballArcade, was it quicker/better at selecting tables? Given the fact that the makers of Pinball FX 2 want proof your a hobbyist before they allow cabinet mode, any chance the makers of PBA are not giving the support to avoid certain parties trying to do things with the product they don't want?