Audio reversed

[troy]

I have a strange issue, and it only occurs inside gameex using the built in DVD player.

The audio channels sound reversed... ie: the dialog track is oftentimes quieter than the music track. Left/Right seem exactly reversed. However, if I load the DVD image into Cyberlink directly, the audio plays fine.

Is there a setting I might be missing that might fix this? I have spent a few hours trying to troublehsoot this, and I can't seem to think of any other way to get around it other than to use cyblerlink as the external player - which is not my ideal.

Any advice or suggestions is appreciated.

[Draco1962]

Troy - I have not encountered this issue myself so cannot answer. Can you provide a copy of your log and gameex.ini files?

[troy]

Troy - I have not encountered this issue myself so cannot answer. Can you provide a copy of your log and gameex.ini files?

Hi there, I'll try and generate it and post it.

I am still having the issue. :/

What is weird is that it only seems to be the in-program player that is the issue. If I play the DVD through an actual player, the audio is fine. That is why I don't think it is a codec issue, or that I "have my wires crossed." If I play it in Gameex, the audio is reversed, if i play it through a standalone player, its perfectly fine.

The easy thing to do is convert the ISO's to avi's or something, but it would be nice to nip this problem the real way. I dont think the ini files will show anything, but Ill try and run it and post it. Thanks!

[troy]

I still having this issue, not sure how to even begin to troubleshoot. Audio in GameEx reverse, but in a regular DVD player software its fine. Perhaps Ill just play them in the external player, if I figure out how to do that.

[fRequEnCy]

Is any type of codec pack being used on this system?

[Draco1962]

Troy, we will be glad to try to help but, in order to do so, we need to see your log files (post running the DVD from within GameEx) and a copy of your gameex.ini file. It may not tell us as much as we need but it is the standard starting point. Also need to know if you have installed any codecs packs as fRequEnCy requested. Click on the How to ask for help link in my signature if you need to know where to find the log and gameex.ini files.

Also, we need to work on this with you as soon as possible and without having to bump the thread 1-5 months later with still no resolution! I understand life sometimes "gets in the way" but from appearances, this issue appeared abandoned with such a lapse in time.

[troy]

Sorry about that, Im updating to the newest version now and will post the file here shortly. Maybe it will give you a clue on the keyboard error too.

Troy, we will be glad to try to help but, in order to do so, we need to see your log files (post running the DVD from within GameEx) and a copy of your gameex.ini file. It may not tell us as much as we need but it is the standard starting point. Also need to know if you have installed any codecs packs as fRequEnCy requested. Click on the How to ask for help link in my signature if you need to know where to find the log and gameex.ini files.

Also, we need to work on this with you as soon as possible and without having to bump the thread 1-5 months later with still no resolution! I understand life sometimes "gets in the way" but from appearances, this issue appeared abandoned with such a lapse in time.

[troy]

I am running the latest version of MAME. I believe I have the following codecs installed:

Shark007

Cyberlink PowerDVD (installed with the Cyberlink software.

Description of problem:

Within GameEx, when playing a DVD, my audio seems reversed. Ie: If playing a DVD either by ISO or by physical DVD, the "incidental" tracks are loudest, and the main audio is very faint. Im not sure if its left/right, AC3 or what, as I dont think you can toggle audio modes within GameEx, or can you?

If I play the same ISO/DVD through a standalone media player (ie: Cyberlink) the DVD plays correctly.

My configs are attached. The solution might be simply to launch the external player when playing DVDs...

trutter_log.txt

trutter_gameexconf.txt

[fRequEnCy]

Have you tested these results in Windows Media Player?

[troy]

Checked media player...

same thing, audio reversed. Looked at settings and googled it, cant seem to find a fix. I tried to see if there was an update, but Im running the latest xp version.

As an aside, I also cant get the subtitles off when playing some DVDs within gameex, pagedown does nothing. I think the pagedown not working is a result of the saitek usb keyboard,and the subtitles a result of some dvds defaulting to subtitles on.

Out of curiosity, do most people use a "normal" keyboard, my other thread regrding the saitek usb keyboard has me wondering if I need either a ps/2 or a different company usb keyboard to get things to function correctly.

[fRequEnCy]

Checked media player...

same thing, audio reversed. Looked at settings and googled it, cant seem to find a fix. I tried to see if there was an update, but Im running the latest xp version.

As an aside, I also cant get the subtitles off when playing some DVDs within gameex, pagedown does nothing. I think the pagedown not working is a result of the saitek usb keyboard,and the subtitles a result of some dvds defaulting to subtitles on.

Out of curiosity, do most people use a "normal" keyboard, my other thread regrding the saitek usb keyboard has me wondering if I need either a ps/2 or a different company usb keyboard to get things to function correctly.

Well as far as audio being reversed it seems like this is a codec issue. This was confirmed when running WMP and had same results which would make sense since that's how GameEx runs video. Need to tweak your shark007 settings. I may be able to fix but by forums is not a good way. If not then the Shark007 forums would be a good and better place to ask. The subtitles will also be a codec issue. These settings need to be adjusted and then can move on from there. If you want support then please PM me and maybe we can meet in the chat room for real-time support which just makes it easier to try different settings.

[troy]

thanks for the tip, ill do some searching and may hit you up for more ideas in the chat .. i wont wait another 5 months. Sorry bout that.

[fRequEnCy]

thanks for the tip, ill do some searching and may hit you up for more ideas in the chat .. i wont wait another 5 months. Sorry bout that.

I should hope not! LOL. I wouldn't have let it go a day with it not working correctly. Since you're on now then I'll hang out in chat for a bit if you wanna try a few things.

[Draco1962]

Glad you are in good hands, Troy! I will be interested to find out the resolution! As for the keyboard, If you have a normal keyboard with a PS2 connection it is worth a go. I have an MS gaming keyboard that is USB and have no problems, but I am not running on a cab, so there are no conflicts with any USB cards configured for a CP. If you have a spare keybaord lying abou - USB or PS2 - give it a try and let's see if you run into any problems that you are experiencing with the Saitek.

[troy]

Well, i played with the shark007 codec configuration and got the audio to normal, but subtitles off didnt work.

Now, I just switched to ffdshow in the GameEx configuration and it wont play the DVDs at all anymore.

I should have quit while I was ahead. Ha

[headkaze]

Well, i played with the shark007 codec configuration and got the audio to normal, but subtitles off didnt work.

Now, I just switched to ffdshow in the GameEx configuration and it wont play the DVDs at all anymore.

I should have quit while I was ahead. Ha

What have you got your "DVD MPEG 2 Codec" setting set to? Also do you have "DVD use FFDSHOW" set? These are under HTPC / Multimedia->DVD Settings.

[troy]

Codec is set to ffdshow, and and Use VRM9 is set to yes. I cant find "Use FFDSHOW"

When I was having problems a year ago, I had to buy Cyberlink to get DVDs to run at all, now that codec has disappeared entirely. So when I choose play, it beeps and comes back to the menu. So, my codecs are definitely hosed again. Windows media player wont even play them either.

Back to the drawing board.

I see where the setup file has the setting "DVD use FFDSHOW" on the screenshots at http://www.gameex.net/Support/SetupWizardFirstUse.aspx, but my settings go from Codec to VMR9, and there isnt "DVD use FFDSHOW" anywhere. Thoughts? Should I run gameex full setup again?

Troy

What have you got your "DVD MPEG 2 Codec" setting set to? Also do you have "DVD use FFDSHOW" set? These are under HTPC / Multimedia->DVD Settings.

[troy]

Yeah for whatever reason I cannot find "DVD use FFDSHOW" in the Advanced Configuration utility at all. Have looked several times through all of the menus... just can't find that one.

[fRequEnCy]

Yeah for whatever reason I cannot find "DVD use FFDSHOW" in the Advanced Configuration utility at all. Have looked several times through all of the menus... just can't find that one.

I don't remember where the setting was in Advanced Configuration Utility but since it is no longer supported then I suggest not using it anymore and use Setup Wizard. That setting is found in the HTPC / Multimedia Settings section under DVD Settings.

[troy]

Ive always used the Advanced Configuration tool. Regardless, same result - Windows MP cant play the DVDs, it is now telling me to lower my display settings, and there is no "lower" than 640x480.

Ill just have to buy PowerDVD again, as my version was a previous one and I cant find my install. Will try that.

[troy]

I installed the cyberlink SE codec and fiddled with settings and DVDs play again within GameEx, and the audio sounds right (i think) -

Captions still play on some of the older DVDs, even though the shark configuration says No subtitles.

I think the universe just hates me, but i guess this is better than nothing.

[troy]

Ok, here is what I found out.

Somehow my DVD codecs got corrupted. The Shark007 codecs would not function as DVD codecs on my computer (if they even are.) So, I paid a small fee for the Cyberlink SE codec only, then reinstalled Shark007.

The Shark007 codecs were making my audio sound reversed. In the audio options, it was automatically choosing the 7 speaker output instead of 2 channel. Changed that to 2 channel, and audio seems fine.

The captions? Well, I think that could be part of the DVD itself, turning captions on by default. Even if I set Shark007 to no captions, they show up. (probably because within GameEx im using the Cyberlink codec, not shark007). I have come to the conclusion that the Saitek keyboard which makes doing searches impossible is also responsible for the "page down" key not turning the captions off as well. Have not tested this with a different keyboard.

So, I would mark this as resolved, even though it is "not quite" resolved on my part.

Thanks for the assistance.

[fRequEnCy]

Don't give up quite yet. Not a very good idea to mix codecs. They could conflict. Also as far is Shark007 selecting 7 speaker output instead of 2 is due to windows settings. This is where shark defaults the speaker configuration from. Also with captions/subtitles, Shark has many possibilities depending on which codec you're using for you content. I'd have to see your settings to troubleshoot. Can still try to figure all that out if you wish. Again just PM me and maybe we can meet in the chat room. Even better, we could try remote support.