DirectX Error

[shaunopp]

Ok, this is really wierd. I am helping a friend setup his machine and add some emulators (NEStopia, Gens+,ZSNES and Stella) and GameEx quits when I select any of these emulators. Mame, ZiNc and Daphne run fine. When I select one of the emulators from the list it'll say 'please wait' as if loading the rom list and then quit with an error log to the desktop.

Edit: Gens+ works. It doesn't say 'please wait' and shows roms immediately. The others say 'please wait' and then poop out.

From the error log it looks like a DirectX error but I've installed the most recent version of DirectX and that didn't solve the problem either. His cab is an exact dupe of mine from the computer to the vid card to the monitor, exactly the same and all of these emulators work great on mine. Thought it would be pretty 'plug and play' but not so much.

Any help is greatly appreciated! Error log attached.

log.txt

[Tempest]

Ok, this is really wierd. I am helping a friend setup his machine and add some emulators (NEStopia, Gens+,ZSNES and Stella) and GameEx quits when I select any of these emulators. Mame, ZiNc and Daphne run fine. When I select one of the emulators from the list it'll say 'please wait' as if loading the rom list and then quit with an error log to the desktop.

Edit: Gens+ works. It doesn't say 'please wait' and shows roms immediately. The others say 'please wait' and then poop out.

From the error log it looks like a DirectX error but I've installed the most recent version of DirectX and that didn't solve the problem either. His cab is an exact dupe of mine from the computer to the vid card to the monitor, exactly the same and all of these emulators work great on mine. Thought it would be pretty 'plug and play' but not so much.

Any help is greatly appreciated! Error log attached.

log.txt

This probably isn't helpful, but two days ago my computer wanted to do an automatic update, I let it, and GX wouldn't run at all, exiting with Directx errors. I downloaded Directx 9.0c from Microsoft, (or maybe it just repaired it), and everything works fine again. Hope that helps!

this was definately psrt of the error I recieved:

It was detected you experienced a DirectX error.

12:24:46.2 2/17/2008: Please note the following for possible solutions to your problem:

12:24:46.2 2/17/2008: 1. Ensure you have the latest version of DirectX installed.

12:24:46.2 2/17/2008: 2. Ensure you have the latest Manufacturer provided video card drivers.

12:24:46.2 2/17/2008: NOTE: Windows/Microsoft Update does not contain the latest.

12:24:46.2 2/17/2008: NOTE: Manufacturer normally means ATI, NVidia, or Intel. Not the brand.

12:24:46.2 2/17/2008: www.ati.com www.nvidia.com

12:24:46.2 2/17/2008: 3. If you do not have a modern video card try the following. 1. Turn off advanced Graphics. 2. Try a lower resolution. 3. Try turning on and using 16-bit colour

12:24:46.2 2/17/2008: 4. Ensure any required video codecs are installed.

12:24:46.2 2/17/2008: 5. Try a different theme, or try running the theme at the resolution it was designed for

12:24:46.2 2/17/2008:

[shaunopp]

This probably isn't helpful, but two days ago my computer wanted to do an automatic update, I let it, and GX wouldn't run at all, exiting with Directx errors. I downloaded Directx 9.0c from Microsoft, (or maybe it just repaired it), and everything works fine again. Hope that helps!

this was definately psrt of the error I recieved:

It was detected you experienced a DirectX error.

12:24:46.2 2/17/2008: Please note the following for possible solutions to your problem:

12:24:46.2 2/17/2008: 1. Ensure you have the latest version of DirectX installed.

12:24:46.2 2/17/2008: 2. Ensure you have the latest Manufacturer provided video card drivers.

12:24:46.2 2/17/2008: NOTE: Windows/Microsoft Update does not contain the latest.

12:24:46.2 2/17/2008: NOTE: Manufacturer normally means ATI, NVidia, or Intel. Not the brand.

12:24:46.2 2/17/2008: www.ati.com www.nvidia.com

12:24:46.2 2/17/2008: 3. If you do not have a modern video card try the following. 1. Turn off advanced Graphics. 2. Try a lower resolution. 3. Try turning on and using 16-bit colour

12:24:46.2 2/17/2008: 4. Ensure any required video codecs are installed.

12:24:46.2 2/17/2008: 5. Try a different theme, or try running the theme at the resolution it was designed for

12:24:46.2 2/17/2008:

Thanks for the suggestion Tempest, I tried an older version of DirectX and still no luck. Maybe I need to unistall the version that's on there now? It isn't under programs to remove so not sure how. I'll have to dink with it some more. All of the Emu's launch fine by themselves so it's got to be a DirectX thing or GameEx's interaction with DirectX.

[Tempest]

I'm pretty sure (remember I have CRS, or I think I did, now I'm not sure ) I followed this link:

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details...;displaylang=en

And it fixed it (I swear), maybe its not the same problem though. Good Luck!

[shaunopp]

I'm pretty sure (remember I have CRS, or I think I did, now I'm not sure ) I followed this link:

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details...;displaylang=en

And it fixed it (I swear), maybe its not the same problem though. Good Luck!

Huh, I'll have to try that link. I'm pretty sure this is the version I downloaded though. Does anyone know if there's a 'best' version of DirectX to use with GameEx? Does it matter?

This is really odd since I've never had any DirectX issues with GameEx at all and this hardware & software are direct dupes of mine. It also seems weird that it errors out when I select an emulator. How would a DirectX error get triggered while it's looking for the roms and why would it work with Gens+ and not NEStopia, ZSNES or Stella? Mame, Daphne and ZiNc work also so what's up with those 3 console Emu's and DirectX in GameEx? Just thinking out loud here, driving me a bit nutty

[shaunopp]

Answered some of my own questions on this.

Found an old post from Brian Hoffman that tells how to check the DirectX version by going to Start/Run and typing 'dxdiag' so at least now I can see what version of DirectX is running.

The system that is working is definitely running DirectX 10. Unfortunately I'm away from the system I'm troubleshooting but I'm almost positive I installed DirectX 10 on it. Both machines are running Vista which DirectX 10 was released with so I would think that'd be what to use. As I said, works fine on one machine but not the other.

More info below for troubleshooting help:

1.) Both machines are Inspiron 531 AMD Athlon 64 x2 Dual Core Processor 4000+

2.) Both machines have 1Gb of RAM

3.) Both machines have AracadeVGA cards and 27" Betson Imperial Monitors.

4.) Both machines have 250Gb hard drives with over 100Gb of space left.

5.) Doubt this is related but both machines have a 7 port hub that PacDrives are running off of.

6.) Newest version of GameEx 9.11.

7.) The cab that isn't working has a 4 player control panel and 2 MiniPacs

8.) The cab that is working is a 2P control panel and uses 1 MiniPac.

9.) Only happens when I select the NEStopia, ZSNES or Stella Emu's within GameEx, they run fine stand alone.

10.) Gens+, Daphne, ZiNc and MAME all run fine.

Oddly when I select the Gens+ Emu it takes no time at all to show the game list of Rom's whereas all of the other Emulators (even on the working system) say 'please wait' and take 15-30seconds to load the gamelist every time.

[bkenobi]

GameEx requires DirectX 9.0c. If you have a newer version that is compatible, then that should be fine. It's definitely a DirectX error, so I would try 2 things:

1) Reinstall DirectX like Tempest suggested (sometimes things get corrupt for no apparent reason)

2) Try a different theme

[shaunopp]

GameEx requires DirectX 9.0c. If you have a newer version that is compatible, then that should be fine. It's definitely a DirectX error, so I would try 2 things:

1) Reinstall DirectX like Tempest suggested (sometimes things get corrupt for no apparent reason)

2) Try a different theme

Thanks for the suggestions kenobi. Is there any way to roll back to 9.0c if I already have 10 installed? I don't think you can completely uninstall DirectX 10. Anyway, DirectX 10 must work with GameEx since it's running fine on one cab. Hadn't thought to try a different theme but I'll give it a whirl. Why would the theme throw a DirectX error just out of curiosity?

[Brian Hoffman]

Well Id suggest getting the nov direct x redist from M$.

As they (for no apparent reason) didnt include some nessary dll's so older games would be compatable...

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details...;displaylang=en

[shaunopp]

GameEx requires DirectX 9.0c. If you have a newer version that is compatible, then that should be fine. It's definitely a DirectX error, so I would try 2 things:

1) Reinstall DirectX like Tempest suggested (sometimes things get corrupt for no apparent reason)

2) Try a different theme

And the winner is... 'Try a different theme'.

Thanks for the suggestion kenobi I wouldn't have guessed that from the error I got. Any idea what causes this? I'm guessing it's a fluke and I can probably just dupe or recreate it since the theme works fine on my machine. More just curious how/why a theme would cause a DirectX. Even stranger to me is that the error only happens when selecting certain console emu's. Seems like if it was theme related it would happen out of the gate when launching.

Thanks to everyone for their suggestions.

[Brian Hoffman]

And the winner is... 'Try a different theme'.

Thanks for the suggestion kenobi I wouldn't have guessed that from the error I got. Any idea what causes this? I'm guessing it's a fluke and I can probably just dupe or recreate it since the theme works fine on my machine. More just curious how/why a theme would cause a DirectX. Even stranger to me is that the error only happens when selecting certain console emu's. Seems like if it was theme related it would happen out of the gate when launching.

Thanks to everyone for their suggestions.

Ive seen it happen when gameex is trying to list game info in a box thats too small to fit the text. Or something is bein drawn off screen.

Just messing around with theme editor.

[shaunopp]

Ive seen it happen when gameex is trying to list game info in a box thats too small to fit the text. Or something is bein drawn off screen.

Just messing around with theme editor.

Yeah, I'll bet I accidentally had the custom layouts and/or modules tickbox checked under options in the Theme Editor. I found out after I created this layout that those don't really work and it's better to turn them off and just point to a background you want to use in your custom emu config. The Theme Editor can be really sketchy when it comes to those functions. Don't get me wrong, I'm greatful there even IS a Theme Editor but those things just don't work yet.

[Tempest]

And the winner is... 'Try a different theme'.

Thanks for the suggestion kenobi I wouldn't have guessed that from the error I got. Any idea what causes this? I'm guessing it's a fluke and I can probably just dupe or recreate it since the theme works fine on my machine. More just curious how/why a theme would cause a DirectX. Even stranger to me is that the error only happens when selecting certain console emu's. Seems like if it was theme related it would happen out of the gate when launching.

Thanks to everyone for their suggestions.

Well I for one am getting tired of that Bkenobi... First he gets a prize on that theme contest, now he wins this, and he looks like the next likely winner in the "my number of posts = my member number" contest. It's BULLS@#T!

[bkenobi]

[Brian Hoffman]

Well I for one am getting tired of that Bkenobi... First he gets a prize on that theme contest, now he wins this, and he looks like the next likely winner in the "my number of posts = my member number" contest. It's BULLS@#T!

Just because you have 140 somthing posts to your name and your member number 2 hundred millon doesnt mean you can playa hate... hehehe