Emumovies problem (since HQ update)

[ShAddiX]

Good evening!

Since I updated my preview videos to the HQ set (which is awesome! ), the videos don't play like they should.

The preview appears, plays for like 3 seconds, then the video hangs for like 2-3 seconds (but the audio is still playing), and then the video continues for like 3 seconds, then it hangs again and so on.

This is quite disturbing. In my video player the videos play like they should. Other previews work without a problem.

So where could the problem be?

[Brian Hoffman]

Good evening!

Since I updated my preview videos to the HQ set (which is awesome! ), the videos don't play like they should.

The preview appears, plays for like 3 seconds, then the video hangs for like 2-3 seconds (but the audio is still playing), and then the video continues for like 3 seconds, then it hangs again and so on.

This is quite disturbing. In my video player the videos play like they should. Other previews work without a problem.

So where could the problem be?

system resources.....

Lower quality require less memory as they are lower resolution and less frames per sec.

Higher quality means it will use more memory. Larger file etc...

It is easier for gameex to render the smaller video in the window than the larger as it has to resize and all.

Try adding more memory.. You are not the first to have this problem and as far as I know there is no clear solution

[bkenobi]

I've actually experienced this with my dual core 4600+ machine and it has 2GB of memory. I was playing the video in mediaplayer classic with nothing else running. I suspect there is a codec issue here, so I haven't put the videos in the cab yet. I want it to work on it's own first!

[LB11]

My cab was doing the same thing and I cant remember for the life of me what I changed. I think it might have been the alphablend videos option in gameex advanced setup. Try that. Ill see if I can remember what I did.

[mrserv0n]

I have 2gb ram, HQ movies hang, I put the old ones back in, other than the fact there a little shorter than the HQ ones, the quality difference isn't noticeable imo since the playback window is so small.

[jthompson]

I don't know if it will help, and its going against the recommended codecs for GameEx, but if these are the videos from Circo, he has stated a couple of times that all he uses on his system is the xvid codec. Try and see if that helps.

Jay T

[Creek]

I think this is the third thread on this topic, and I'm beginning to think that Circo's doing something different in his new set, that doesn't go well on all systems (in GameEx).

I had the exact same problem, as a couple of others in the other threads. The video's play fine out of GameEx, but stalls after 3 seconds in GameEx. It might be the alphablend option, as LB11 stated. But then again, Circo's latest emumovies set is the only collection of video snaps I've experienced this problem with. His old 106 set is what i went back to, and that runs perfectly fine, as do the Sega, Nintendo, TurboGraf-X, etc. video snap sets I have.

[ShAddiX]

So I'm not the only one with this problem.

Would it be possible that Tom change the preview in GameEx? I mean, the previews work only with the version of ffdshow which is on the GameEx website. Not with the newer ones, not with different codec packs which is kind of annoying. I broke the video preview features like 3 times because I installed new codecs. (like for mkv)

I don't know if this is possible, or just too much, but I don't thnik that Circo would do this BIG amount of work AGAIN. Must be a pain in the a**. :/

But I hope for an easy and quick solution.

[bkenobi]

Am I the only one who sees this stuttering outside of GameEx in Windows?

[LB11]

I saw it outside of gameex too now that I think about it. If you go into ffdshow just tell it to use the official xvid codec instead of the libamp4 codec. See if that helps.

Whats great about ffdshow is you can change all the settings and see the results while the video is playing.

[Circo]

I saw it outside of gameex too now that I think about it. If you go into ffdshow just tell it to use the official xvid codec instead of the libamp4 codec. See if that helps.

Whats great about ffdshow is you can change all the settings and see the results while the video is playing.

I will start by saying I do not use ffdshow on my cab, i tried it, had bad results. However if the SQ files are playing fine and the HiQ files have issues, realize that the only difference is the resolution. I make the HiQ files first and then resize them for the SQ set. My older releases up until about a year ago were all encoded in Divx so there are some differences there. Otherwise with xvid as the installed codec on a P4 3.0GHz with 1GB of ram installed both types play fine for me.

If you are only using the videos for a preview window, you will probably be just fine with the sq set.

[Creek]

I will start by saying I do not use ffdshow on my cab, i tried it, had bad results. However if the SQ files are playing fine and the HiQ files have issues, realize that the only difference is the resolution. I make the HiQ files first and then resize them for the SQ set. My older releases up until about a year ago were all encoded in Divx so there are some differences there. Otherwise with xvid as the installed codec on a P4 3.0GHz with 1GB of ram installed both types play fine for me.

I tried the SQ files, when I ran into this problem. It could be ffdshow's fault, I'll have to look into it.

[bkenobi]

I just looked, and xvid is listed as using the libavcodec. I don't have any other choices...

[ShAddiX]

Any solution/work on this?

I installed the CCC Pack for my HD videos (with the old one they didn't run smoothly) but now my video preview support is broken again -.-

You need to update your codecs but you're not able to because of the way GameEx handles it.

I hope for a solution soon. :/

[bkenobi]

I just finally copied my intro movies over to my cab the other day. I installed CCCP and videos play fine in windows, but when I run GameEx, the preview box just shows black. I can hear the sound, but the video doesn't play. When this is happening, GameEx freezes and doesn't allow any inputs. I have to kill the process with the task manager. I've currently disabled videos by removing the path.

I know there's been a lot of discussion on videos, but I don't know the right thread to read through. Perhaps someone might be able to suggest either the correct thread or suggest an answer (maybe a setting in CCCP that's wrong)?

[sbaby]

I just finally copied my intro movies over to my cab the other day. I installed CCCP and videos play fine in windows, but when I run GameEx, the preview box just shows black. I can hear the sound, but the video doesn't play. When this is happening, GameEx freezes and doesn't allow any inputs. I have to kill the process with the task manager. I've currently disabled videos by removing the path.

I know there's been a lot of discussion on videos, but I don't know the right thread to read through. Perhaps someone might be able to suggest either the correct thread or suggest an answer (maybe a setting in CCCP that's wrong)?

I resolved the problem with cccp and disabling divx and xvid in "CCCP Control Panel" otherwise does not work any video.

Only problem : emumovies videos have audio anticipated, it is normal? This always happens to me...

Outside gameex (in windows) just works !

[dwight]

Hi all,

I too have had a stutter problem with the HQ videos when running GameeX only, they workfine in windows media player, and the SQ vids work fine in GameEx.. I have 4GB of RAM and minimal apps running (generally only uses 45% of physical ram), so there is definitely no issue there, but I was thinking this could be a buffering problem?

Does GameEX buffer the video before paying, and if so, can the buffer be increased? If not, I guess this is an FFDSHOW issue?

Im using the latest FFDSHOW, dwonloaded from sourceforge (look for the trial FFDSHOW version). Works fine in GameEx and for playing back DivX and XVid movies (including 1.5 hour movies) using windows Media Player.

Anyone found a fix? I have yet to try this CCC stuff.

On the quality issue - I run 1920x1200 res and I reckon there is a difference between the SQ and HQ vids on my cab - the HQs jsut look cleaner, so I want to use them if I can.

[eXo]

This thread seems to be the same problem I am experiencing, although my videos are coming from a different source. I'd like to bump this back up as dwight's suggestions are worth looking into.

It is def a codec issue, and not a resource/cpu issue. I think the way gameex buffers up the videos may be exactly whats going wrong here.

[headkaze]

I don't know who started recommending the CCCP codec pack to everyone but we have always recommended the old ffdshow one from the GameEx website download area. The CCCP pack might work for some people in GameEx but I've tried both KLite and CCCP and had problems with them. Only pack that seemed to work is pure ffdshow from here. For 64 bit machines with 64-bit OS try the "Vista Codec Pack".

[eXo]

I don't know who started recommending the CCCP codec pack to everyone but we have always recommended the old ffdshow one from the GameEx website download area. The CCCP pack might work for some people in GameEx but I've tried both KLite and CCCP and had problems with them. Only pack that seemed to work is pure ffdshow from here. For 64 bit machines with 64-bit OS try the "Vista Codec Pack".

Well, I am using the ffdshow pack from here. And there are no other codecs installed. My response really wasn't about the CCCP pack at all. It was about the way gameex seems to handle these movie files, and the fact that newer codecs aren't compatible with gameex - yet they also seem to be needed.

As I mention in my other thread, my machine is plenty powerful and has ram to spare - yet it stutters a few seconds into my avi preview files. Also - it does this on both my machines, both of which are running the ffdshow from this site. Other versions of ffdshow, cccp, klite, and divx won't play anything at all and just cause crashes.

All that said, the problem seems to either be with the ffdshow codec on the gameex site, or teh way gameex buffers up the videos.

[headkaze]

Well, I am using the ffdshow pack from here. And there are no other codecs installed. My response really wasn't about the CCCP pack at all. It was about the way gameex seems to handle these movie files, and the fact that newer codecs aren't compatible with gameex - yet they also seem to be needed.

As I mention in my other thread, my machine is plenty powerful and has ram to spare - yet it stutters a few seconds into my avi preview files. Also - it does this on both my machines, both of which are running the ffdshow from this site. Other versions of ffdshow, cccp, klite, and divx won't play anything at all and just cause crashes.

All that said, the problem seems to either be with the ffdshow codec on the gameex site, or teh way gameex buffers up the videos.

I don't know how Tom plays back video but I doubt he would need to worry about any type of buffering. That should all be handled by DirectShow. Now if his Graph is built using "Intelligent Connect" there should be no problem playing back videos with any codec. I've done a fair bit of work with DirectShow in .NET and I've never had a problem using newer codecs. I think he uses a library that he out-sourced but he really should be using DirectShowNet. It would solve all the video playback issues IMHO.

I have told Tom about this before but DirectShow is quite a steep learning curve. I'm happy to help him write a new and improved video system, but it all depends on priorities and time.

[bkenobi]

Just a note: You shouldn't have any problems with GameEx being compatible with one codec or another. That's not how things work. GameEx uses whatever codec you have setup in windows. So, if you have a video encoded in a certain format, Windows will tell GameEx what codec to use. If that codec is configured correctly in Windows, it *should* work fine in GameEx. There are some things that change this though. For instance, if the codec has a system tray icon that pops up on the first video that's loaded, it will steal focus from GameEx and appear to break (for example the official DiVx codec). That's one reason why the FFDSHOW from this site is recommended: it's tested and works great. The only reason you would need a different pack would be if you are trying to play a video that's not included in that codec pack.