mame exits back to menu in the middle of game

[puppetj]

any reason for mame to exit in middle of playing a game? sorry cant post a log it wont let me, btw it mame32 1.08u5 (yes i know its older ) but would that matter? beside a older what else could it be, thanks

[Adultery]

We really can't say without you posting your log.

Try this:

START -> My Computer -> Program Files -> GameEx -> Log -> log.txt

Open this file and copy (CTRL+C) all the text on it and paste (CTRL+V) it into a post.

[puppetj]

it was let me post it, if at any time post the log after i paste it in, in either ie or ff after i hit reply it takes couples secs long then in ff i get at white screen with the url up top http://www.gameex.info/forums/index.php

same url in ie but it says page cant be displayed

but if this helps this is the command that mame runs:

Running: cmd.exe /c Q: Q:\Mame\Mame32\Mame32.exe aof2a -rompath Q:\Mame\mame games\roms -triplebuffer -nowindow -joy

[headkaze]

I would remove the space in your ROMs path for a start.

Ie. Q:\Mame\mame_games\roms

[Will]

he said it exits in the middle of a game. This can really only be two things--mame crashes and exits, mame is closed by gameex. Either find a way see if mame is crashing, or check to see if a button combination is causing an exit. I doubt the GameEx log will help much in this case.

[headkaze]

To be sure, but it's always good practice to not use spaces (hence why I said "for a start"). With the information provided it's hard to say what it could be.

Does Mame32 crash outside of GameEx? And Will makes a good point, it could be your exit button being pressed. The GameEx log should help identify if Mame has been exited via the exit key or if it has just closed via a crash.

If you can't post the whole log (sounds like it's timing out which happens to me sometimes on here), just past the last 10 lines or so.

[puppetj]

no mame32 doesnt crash outside gameex, and the space doesnt mess with mame32. Also what ar you looking for in the log ill just paste that.

[headkaze]

Nevermind I just realised that the log won't say how Mame has exited.

The only thing I can think of is that some button combo your pressing at the time is triggering the ESC exit key. What game are you playing when it exits? Also try running a Mame game and pressing every button/joystick combo you can think of and see if it will exit Mame.

I assume your using an IPAC, so you can download WinIPAC to check your SHIFT buttons.

WinIPAC.zip

[puppetj]

I understand, but i didnt assign any button to esc, so why would it? i'am playing fighting games and there is alot of button mashing, but still how do that still it to say press esc?, also it only is happening at the 2nd round. So i'am pressing the same buttons in the 1st round.

"IPAC, so you can download WinIPAC to check your SHIFT buttons."??? (I don't know what any of this is)

[headkaze]

Run WinIPAC and press the radio button that says "Show shifted keys". Shifted keys are key combo's that work like shift on a regular keyboard. These are so you can have more functions with less buttons. At least that's how I assume it works. Run WinIPAC in test mode and see if you can get that ESC key pressed using key combo's.

I actually don't know much about it myself, but it's worth a look.

If your saying it only crashes on the 2nd round then a shited key sounds less likely to be the problem. But it does sound more like a Mame issue than a GameEx issue too. But then you say it dosn't happen outside of GameEx. So it's a very strange problem indeed!

There is probably no point in us speculating any further. You need to do more experimentation and try to identify exactly what situation is causing Mame to exit. Is it just one game, several games, is it at stage 2, or is it after a certain amount of time, what keys cause the exit or is it not keys at all, etc. etc. As Number 5 would say "need more input".

[puppetj]

well it happened again, but in a fighting game in snes, so what can i do its gameex for sure, now i understand you stand dont button mash or/and button all buttons dont at the at the time or whatever, but thats how i play, so what can i do so gameex will stop bugging me out, and work right, btw i dont need ipac i'am ok.

[puppetj]

hello?

[headkaze]

  puppetj said:

well it happened again, but in a fighting game in snes, so what can i do its gameex for sure, now i understand you stand dont button mash or/and button all buttons dont at the at the time or whatever, but thats how i play, so what can i do so gameex will stop bugging me out, and work right, btw i dont need ipac i'am ok.

I can compare you explaination to finding a solution that is a needle in a haystack. To solve a problem we need facts beyond "you stand dont button mash or/and button all buttons dont at the at the time or whatever". To me that is a mishmash of confusion. You don't even make it clear whether or not you have an ipac " btw i dont need ipac i'am ok." is about as vauge as you can get. I don't know if english is your first language, but you need to be clear, and concise in describing your problem. You also need to do problem solving on your end before anyone here can even consider what might be happening. You could have a simple problem, but without the facts we can't help I'm afraid. Think hard, try a few things, and post again.

[puppetj]

Wow, no need to bash me!, I said i dont even know what is a ipac. Si why would i need it, if it doesnt fix the issue, i dont need it! and button mashing is used in fighting games to most people, but it also happen in the snes emulator, with a fighting game to, so it gameex for sure! I dont understand why it that hard to understand me, i'am being as open to the issue that is in hand, while also still wondering why the mouse pointer wont disappear in the snes9x emulator that in my other post, that no one seems why, btw this is a clean install (just last couple of weeks) ill try to post the log again. (what i can)

btw it wont let me post anything in the log, not even 1 line!!!!!!! WtF!

[Adultery]

Well if this isn't getting out of hand quickly...

Kaze was just saying that there's a lot of things we don't understand. I have never (nor have I ever seen) anyone having these problems, especially the SNES9x one. If you;'re in need of help, you'll have to give us exact details. Usually that's what the log is for and that's why we're so hot on you to post it. You're more or less asking us to make a general guess as to a solution and holding back crucial details like what game you're playing, what error GameEx is giving you (exactly) and what your CPU specs are. Are you on a cab or PC? Do you use a joystick, and if so what kind? What operating system are you using? Microsoft XP Media Center? XP SP1 or 2? What versions of .NET Framework are installed? How long is it taking for your game to crash?

Since you're not having average Joe problems, we can't give you an average Joe answer. If you need help, rather than bumping your thread every couple days, you're gonna have to be a lot more thorough on your explanations.

Nobody's bashing anybody! We just can't help you without specifics! I know you're frustrated, but everyone here is donating their time to make the GameEx experience as fulfilling as it is for us. We've purchased and set up the program just like you and had tons of problems along the way just like you. You just need to let us know EXACTLY tit for tat what is causing these problems. No log file? No educated guess. That's just that simple.

Sorry if you're disgruntled, but you gotta follow procedures just like everyone else has to.

PS - If you think WE'RE rude, try asking the same questions on the MAME or SNES9x forums. They're a LOT less patient then we are. Trust me.

And just for the record, an iPAC is the 'brains' of a real Arcade setup as far as the joystick and buttons go. Also, we generally discourage the using of 'beta' or 'between' versions of MAME and sticking with the Public Release versions like 0.101, 0.102, 0.103, etc.

[puppetj]

like i mentioned plenty of times, and post the log, it times out (go to the white screen) i cant even post even one line of the log it wont take it, the only thing that it will take is manual typing, dont ask me why. And the snes9x forum didnt make fun of my "English is a 2nd lang. skills) like this guy did!

but its a pc, p4 3.2ghz

mce 2005 sp2(fully updated with patches)

.net 2 (fully updated)

The games crashes when ever it wants to i guess

I understand i'am not the only person in the forum btw

I also for some reason, that i know understanding of, that i get the bizarre problem 55% of the time!

[Adultery]

Now we're getting somewhere!

Can you download and install something for me and we'll get to the bottom of this MAME thing.

  headkaze said:

Download my KeyCodes util and run it in the background. Then at least you can find out what the last key pressed is.

It sounds to me like a Key Mapping problem like stated before. Check and see if ESC isn't mapped as a button on your joystick and we'll go from there.

I would also recommend installing NET Framework 1.1 as well as 2.0 since Mr. Spiers recommends that both be installed.

You have a nice CPU by the way.

[puppetj]

ok ill try, btw like i mention i do have the .net's (read last post i posted)

[headkaze]

  Adultery said:

Well if this isn't getting out of hand quickly...

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Thanks Adultery I couldn't have put it any better than you did in that post!

I'm sorry if you felt I was attacking you puppetj, but imagine your car breaking down and calling up someone to help you fix it, and all you can say over and over is that the car won't start. You will never be able to fix it, so were only trying to help you by telling you what we need to know to help you do that. I'm sorry if I was sounding a bit harsh.

  puppetj said:

ok ill try, btw like i mention i do have the .net's (read last post i posted)

Lets go through this step by step...

  puppetj said:

.net 2 (fully updated)

You state here you have .NET 2 installed.

  Adultery said:

I would also recommend installing NET Framework 1.1 as well as 2.0 since Mr. Spiers recommends that both be installed.

Here Adultery recommends installing .NET Framework 1.1 as wall as 2.0... .NET 2 is not an upgrade to .NET 1.1, they run parallel.

[puppetj]

yeah i have .net 1.1 (fully updated)

here a link to the log file

http://rafb.net/p/BDAWLF98.html

[jkahrs595]

I'm no pro, but to me it looks as if no errors occured.

Maybe the hard drive in which the ROMs are stored is compressed? I've heard stories where compression can be screwy with games, making them only partially work.

Also, try this. It may sound kind of funny, but when you're in Game Ex... mash the buttons as if you would in a game. If it exits, that means that some combination of buttons is mapped to the 'Esc' key.

PS - I'm still a n00b, but thought I might be of some help

[puppetj]

as far as i can tell by doing this is that it only happens in a emulator (any)

and no compression, but thanks for trying!

[Adultery]

You tried the button mashing theory?

  jklhars595 said:

It may sound kind of funny, but when you're in Game Ex... mash the buttons as if you would in a game. If it exits, that means that some combination of buttons is mapped to the 'Esc' key.

Hey, out of curiosity... Are you using Joy2Key for anything? Also, just so I can do some research on the side... What type of joystick are you using (if any?) Also, just to satisfy my curiosity... If you are using a gamepad / joystick / etc. is GameEx able to detect it, and can you use it when you browse the main menu?

[puppetj]

You tried the button mashing theory?

yes i have, and not to confuse but, about "as far as i can tell by doing this is that it only happens in a emulator (any)" i mean running the emu in gameex.

No jo2Key, three different types of pads, yes it can, yes i can browse thru the menu with it, so i turn that off?

Hey, out of curiosity... Are you using Joy2Key for anything? Also, just so I can do some research on the side... What type of joystick are you using (if any?) Also, just to satisfy my curiosity... If you are using a gamepad / joystick / etc. is GameEx able to detect it, and can you use it when you browse the main menu?

[Quixote Quest]

I don't wish to hijack, but I'm having what appears to be the same problem. I hope I may add to a productive discussion or perhaps merely validate the problem exists with other users.

I have a new dual Athlon 64 3800+ (2.0Ghz) running MAME v.111 using the latest GameEx version. (1 gig RAM). We've also had problems with MAME games quitting mid games--usually during games with a lot of keypresses. I am using an IPAC; Using the WiniPac app I have checked to confirm none of the 7-button player clusters are mapped as shift-escape functions. Only my P1/P2 keys are shift-mapped that way. Also, I'm using UltraStiks running direct thru USB, not via the IPAC.

This problem does not happen running direct in MAME32 on the same games. (One of them where this has been happening is MK II.)

Though the computer is new I did run the .net framework 1.1 update. I have downloaded the 2.0 upgrade but have hesitated to install it because XP(MCE) is not listed under the supported operating systems.