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Hi guys, sometime recently, my attract mode has stopped working in GAMEEX. I am not sure exactly when it stopped working, but the only things I recall doing recently that would have affected are configuring GAMEEXTENDER (love being able to check my cab from work), and updating to the latest GAMEEX (using the auto update feature - I think its 7.2).

Anyway, when attract mode starts, it turns the screen black, begins to load the game, sometimes i see the loading screen for the game, then it kicks back to gameex before the game begins.

Any ideas what this could be? I have tried both Mame and Mame32 and neither work. Also, i used the 'last game' feature to verify that its not bad ROMS (they load up fine outside of attract mode).

Thanks again for the great product

Posted
Hi guys, sometime recently, my attract mode has stopped working in GAMEEX. I am not sure exactly when it stopped working, but the only things I recall doing recently that would have affected are configuring GAMEEXTENDER (love being able to check my cab from work), and updating to the latest GAMEEX (using the auto update feature - I think its 7.2).

Anyway, when attract mode starts, it turns the screen black, begins to load the game, sometimes i see the loading screen for the game, then it kicks back to gameex before the game begins.

Any ideas what this could be? I have tried both Mame and Mame32 and neither work. Also, i used the 'last game' feature to verify that its not bad ROMS (they load up fine outside of attract mode).

Thanks again for the great product

Can you post the log after it happens. Cheers.

Posted

This is the same thing I reported having in the feature request thread here. Just so Tom knows there's a possible bug in the Matrix... :)

Looks like it's detecting a key press, but I'm not...

16:22:12.6 11/3/2006: GameEx: Version 7.02: Starting Log

16:22:12.6 11/3/2006: Operating System Platform: Win32NT

16:22:12.6 11/3/2006: Operating System Name: Windows XP

16:22:12.6 11/3/2006: Operating System Version: 5.1.2600

16:22:12.6 11/3/2006: Checking for versions of .net Framework installed

16:22:12.6 11/3/2006: .net Framework 1.0 Installed

16:22:12.6 11/3/2006: .net Framework 1.1 Installed

16:22:12.6 11/3/2006: .net Framework 2.0 Installed

16:22:12.6 11/3/2006: AMD Sempron Processor 2600+

16:22:12.6 11/3/2006: 1.6Ghz

16:22:12.6 11/3/2006: Running Randomize()

16:22:12.6 11/3/2006: Checking for applications to Launch On Startup

16:22:12.6 11/3/2006: Initialising Video/MNG DLL's

16:22:12.6 11/3/2006: Running Misc startup tasks

16:22:12.6 11/3/2006: Setting Menu types

16:22:12.6 11/3/2006: Opening Configuration File

16:22:12.6 11/3/2006: Getting Configuration Values

16:22:12.6 11/3/2006: Using Theme: Default - Default - Animated

16:22:12.6 11/3/2006: Checking for alternate Image Directory for Theme: Default - Default - Animated

16:22:12.6 11/3/2006: Using Images from theme: Default - Default\MEDIA\

16:22:12.6 11/3/2006: Launching HideOS.exe

16:22:12.6 11/3/2006: Hiding Taskbar

16:22:12.6 11/3/2006: Is Media Center running?

16:22:12.6 11/3/2006: Media Center is running

16:22:12.6 11/3/2006: Checking/Creating LCD Registry values

16:22:12.6 11/3/2006: Check Media Center Exit/Start Mode

16:22:12.6 11/3/2006: Media Center Mode 2

16:22:12.7 11/3/2006: Closing Media Center

16:22:17.6 11/3/2006: Text/Language: English

16:22:17.6 11/3/2006: Applying Language/Text

16:22:17.7 11/3/2006: Snap Delay set to: 1

16:22:17.7 11/3/2006: Get other settings

16:22:17.7 11/3/2006: Set: Find emulator artwork on best match basis

16:22:17.7 11/3/2006: Start work for Form

16:22:17.7 11/3/2006: Getting Original Screen Size

16:22:17.7 11/3/2006: Loading ICON

16:22:17.7 11/3/2006: Initializing Component

16:22:17.7 11/3/2006: Initialising Bass Audio Library

16:22:17.9 11/3/2006: Loading default loading screen

16:22:17.9 11/3/2006: Loading Custom Emulators

16:22:17.9 11/3/2006: Loading Emulator 1: Atari 2600 Games

16:22:18.0 11/3/2006: Loading Emulator 2: Atari 800 Games

16:22:18.0 11/3/2006: Loading Emulator 3: Atari 5200 Games

16:22:18.1 11/3/2006: Loading Emulator 4: Atari 7800 Games

16:22:18.1 11/3/2006: Loading Emulator 5: Atari Lynx Games

16:22:18.1 11/3/2006: Loading Emulator 6: Atari ST Games

16:22:18.2 11/3/2006: Loading Emulator 7: Atari Jaguar Games

16:22:18.2 11/3/2006: Loading Emulator 8: SNK Neo Geo Pocket Games

16:22:18.3 11/3/2006: Loading Emulator 9: Nintendo NES Games

16:22:18.3 11/3/2006: Loading Emulator 10: Nintendo GameBoy Games

16:22:18.4 11/3/2006: Loading Emulator 11: Nintendo SNES Games

16:22:18.4 11/3/2006: Loading Emulator 12: Nintendo GameBoy Advance

16:22:18.5 11/3/2006: Loading Emulator 13: Nintendo 64 Games

16:22:18.5 11/3/2006: Loading Emulator 14: Sega Master System Games

16:22:18.5 11/3/2006: Loading Emulator 15: Sega Genesis Games

16:22:18.6 11/3/2006: Loading Emulator 17: Sega 32X Games

16:22:18.6 11/3/2006: Loading Emulator 18: Sega GameGear Games

16:22:18.7 11/3/2006: Loading Emulator 19: StepMania

16:22:18.7 11/3/2006: Loading Emulator 20: StepMania (Online)

16:22:18.8 11/3/2006: Loading Emulator 21: Visual Pinball Tables

16:22:18.8 11/3/2006: Loading Emulator 22: Future Pinball Tables

16:22:19.0 11/3/2006: Using 3D Alpha Blended Animations. This could be slow

16:22:19.0 11/3/2006: Using General Font: Trebuchet MS

16:22:19.0 11/3/2006: Using Title Font: Trebuchet MS

16:22:19.0 11/3/2006: Starting GameExtender Publisher

16:22:19.0 11/3/2006: Initialising DirectDraw

16:22:19.0 11/3/2006: Applying GameEx is Loading Image

16:22:19.2 11/3/2006: Creating DirectDraw Device

16:22:19.2 11/3/2006: Using Device: RADEON X800 PRO

16:22:19.2 11/3/2006: Setting Resolution to 800x600 32 bit color

16:22:19.6 11/3/2006: Creating DirectDraw Surfaces

16:22:19.6 11/3/2006: Creating Primary Surface - Full Screen Mode

16:22:19.6 11/3/2006: Creating Back Buffer

16:22:19.7 11/3/2006: Loading graphic surfaces

16:22:19.7 11/3/2006: Creating Surfaces Misc and Dialogs

16:22:19.8 11/3/2006: Creating Surface Volume

16:22:19.8 11/3/2006: Creating Surfaces Arrows

16:22:19.8 11/3/2006: Creating Surfaces GameEXlogo Text

16:22:19.8 11/3/2006: Creating Surfaces Toolbar

16:22:19.9 11/3/2006: Creating Surfaces Backgrounds

16:22:20.5 11/3/2006: Creating Surfaces Toolbar Controls

16:22:20.5 11/3/2006: Creating Surfaces GameEx Logo

16:22:20.5 11/3/2006: Creating Surfaces Home & Exit

16:22:20.6 11/3/2006: Creating Surfaces Snaps

16:22:20.6 11/3/2006: Creating Surfaces Menu and List Bars

16:22:20.7 11/3/2006: Creating Fonts

16:22:20.7 11/3/2006: Creating Menu Font

16:22:20.9 11/3/2006: Creating Game Font

16:22:21.0 11/3/2006: Creating Font Black

16:22:21.1 11/3/2006: Creating Font Black Small

16:22:21.3 11/3/2006: Creating Game Font Faded

16:22:21.3 11/3/2006: Creating Title Font

16:22:21.3 11/3/2006: Restoring Title Font From Cache

16:22:21.6 11/3/2006: Fonts Created Succesfully

16:22:21.6 11/3/2006: MAME Path is: D:\!GAMES\_MAME

16:22:21.6 11/3/2006: MAME EXE file is: MAME32ATXP.exe

16:22:21.6 11/3/2006: ROM Path is: D:\!GAMES\_MAME\roms

16:22:21.6 11/3/2006: Catver.ini is located at: D:\!GAMES\_MAME\_new\Catver.ini

16:22:21.6 11/3/2006: controls.ini is located at: D:\Program Files\GameEx\data\controls.ini

16:22:21.6 11/3/2006: History.dat is located at: D:\!GAMES\_MAME\_new\history.dat

16:22:21.6 11/3/2006: nplayers.ini is located at: D:\!GAMES\_MAME\_new\nplayers.ini

16:22:21.6 11/3/2006: MAMEinfo.dat is located at: D:\!GAMES\_MAME\_new\mameinfo.dat

16:22:21.7 11/3/2006: Loading Controls.ini map file

16:22:21.7 11/3/2006: Snap Path is: D:\!GAMES\_MAME\snap

16:22:21.7 11/3/2006: AVI Snap Path is: D:\!GAMES\_MAME\videos

16:22:21.7 11/3/2006: Flyer Path is: D:\!GAMES\_MAME\flyers

16:22:21.7 11/3/2006: Cabinet Path is: D:\!GAMES\_MAME\cabinets

16:22:21.7 11/3/2006: Title Path is: D:\!GAMES\_MAME\titles

16:22:21.7 11/3/2006: Panel Path is: D:\!GAMES\_MAME\panels

16:22:21.7 11/3/2006: Icon Path is: D:\!GAMES\_MAME\icons

16:22:21.7 11/3/2006: Marquee Path is: D:\!GAMES\_MAME\marquees

16:22:21.7 11/3/2006: MAME CMD options: -triplebuffer -nowindow -joy

16:22:21.7 11/3/2006: Attempting to load game list

16:22:22.1 11/3/2006: Loading last used Game List

16:22:22.1 11/3/2006: Setting Music Volume

16:22:22.1 11/3/2006: Creating DirectSound Device

16:22:22.1 11/3/2006: Trying: Primary Sound Driver

16:22:22.1 11/3/2006: Loading Sound Files

16:22:22.2 11/3/2006: DirectSound Device Created Successfully

16:22:22.2 11/3/2006: Creating ICONS

16:22:22.2 11/3/2006: Restoring Cached ICONS from File

16:22:23.0 11/3/2006: Initialising DirectInput for Gamepad support

16:22:23.1 11/3/2006: Using Device Saitek Cyborg Force Rumble Pad

16:22:23.1 11/3/2006: Using Device PSX/USB Pad

16:22:23.2 11/3/2006: Playing intro sound file

16:22:23.2 11/3/2006: Initializing MCE Remote

16:22:23.2 11/3/2006: Initialization OK! Starting GameEx!

16:22:23.2 11/3/2006: Testing Main Loop Once: Processing Frame

16:22:23.5 11/3/2006: Testing Main Loop Once: Main Loop ran successfully

16:22:29.4 11/3/2006: Starting Attract Mode

16:22:29.5 11/3/2006: Running: cmd.exe /c D: D:\!GAMES\_MAME\MAME32ATXP.exe fghthist -rompath D:\!GAMES\_MAME\roms -triplebuffer -nowindow -joy

16:22:30.7 11/3/2006: Key/Joy press detected: Exiting Attract mode: 24:36

16:24:15.2 11/3/2006: Exiting GameEx!

16:24:15.2 11/3/2006: Saving Settings

16:24:17.9 11/3/2006: Checking for applications to Launch On Exit

16:24:17.9 11/3/2006: Launching Media Center

Posted
This is the same thing I reported having in the feature request thread here. Just so Tom knows there's a possible bug in the Matrix... :)

Looks like it's detecting a key press, but I'm not...

16:22:12.6 11/3/2006: GameEx: Version 7.02: Starting Log

16:22:12.6 11/3/2006: Operating System Platform: Win32NT

16:22:12.6 11/3/2006: Operating System Name: Windows XP

16:22:12.6 11/3/2006: Operating System Version: 5.1.2600

16:22:12.6 11/3/2006: Checking for versions of .net Framework installed

16:22:12.6 11/3/2006: .net Framework 1.0 Installed

16:22:12.6 11/3/2006: .net Framework 1.1 Installed

16:22:12.6 11/3/2006: .net Framework 2.0 Installed

16:22:12.6 11/3/2006: AMD Sempron™ Processor 2600+

16:22:12.6 11/3/2006: 1.6Ghz

16:22:12.6 11/3/2006: Running Randomize()

16:22:12.6 11/3/2006: Checking for applications to Launch On Startup

16:22:12.6 11/3/2006: Initialising Video/MNG DLL's

16:22:12.6 11/3/2006: Running Misc startup tasks

16:22:12.6 11/3/2006: Setting Menu types

16:22:12.6 11/3/2006: Opening Configuration File

16:22:12.6 11/3/2006: Getting Configuration Values

16:22:12.6 11/3/2006: Using Theme: Default - Default - Animated

16:22:12.6 11/3/2006: Checking for alternate Image Directory for Theme: Default - Default - Animated

16:22:12.6 11/3/2006: Using Images from theme: Default - Default\MEDIA\

16:22:12.6 11/3/2006: Launching HideOS.exe

16:22:12.6 11/3/2006: Hiding Taskbar

16:22:12.6 11/3/2006: Is Media Center running?

16:22:12.6 11/3/2006: Media Center is running

16:22:12.6 11/3/2006: Checking/Creating LCD Registry values

16:22:12.6 11/3/2006: Check Media Center Exit/Start Mode

16:22:12.6 11/3/2006: Media Center Mode 2

16:22:12.7 11/3/2006: Closing Media Center

16:22:17.6 11/3/2006: Text/Language: English

16:22:17.6 11/3/2006: Applying Language/Text

16:22:17.7 11/3/2006: Snap Delay set to: 1

16:22:17.7 11/3/2006: Get other settings

16:22:17.7 11/3/2006: Set: Find emulator artwork on best match basis

16:22:17.7 11/3/2006: Start work for Form

16:22:17.7 11/3/2006: Getting Original Screen Size

16:22:17.7 11/3/2006: Loading ICON

16:22:17.7 11/3/2006: Initializing Component

16:22:17.7 11/3/2006: Initialising Bass Audio Library

16:22:17.9 11/3/2006: Loading default loading screen

16:22:17.9 11/3/2006: Loading Custom Emulators

16:22:17.9 11/3/2006: Loading Emulator 1: Atari 2600 Games

16:22:18.0 11/3/2006: Loading Emulator 2: Atari 800 Games

16:22:18.0 11/3/2006: Loading Emulator 3: Atari 5200 Games

16:22:18.1 11/3/2006: Loading Emulator 4: Atari 7800 Games

16:22:18.1 11/3/2006: Loading Emulator 5: Atari Lynx Games

16:22:18.1 11/3/2006: Loading Emulator 6: Atari ST Games

16:22:18.2 11/3/2006: Loading Emulator 7: Atari Jaguar Games

16:22:18.2 11/3/2006: Loading Emulator 8: SNK Neo Geo Pocket Games

16:22:18.3 11/3/2006: Loading Emulator 9: Nintendo NES Games

16:22:18.3 11/3/2006: Loading Emulator 10: Nintendo GameBoy Games

16:22:18.4 11/3/2006: Loading Emulator 11: Nintendo SNES Games

16:22:18.4 11/3/2006: Loading Emulator 12: Nintendo GameBoy Advance

16:22:18.5 11/3/2006: Loading Emulator 13: Nintendo 64 Games

16:22:18.5 11/3/2006: Loading Emulator 14: Sega Master System Games

16:22:18.5 11/3/2006: Loading Emulator 15: Sega Genesis Games

16:22:18.6 11/3/2006: Loading Emulator 17: Sega 32X Games

16:22:18.6 11/3/2006: Loading Emulator 18: Sega GameGear Games

16:22:18.7 11/3/2006: Loading Emulator 19: StepMania

16:22:18.7 11/3/2006: Loading Emulator 20: StepMania (Online)

16:22:18.8 11/3/2006: Loading Emulator 21: Visual Pinball Tables

16:22:18.8 11/3/2006: Loading Emulator 22: Future Pinball Tables

16:22:19.0 11/3/2006: Using 3D Alpha Blended Animations. This could be slow

16:22:19.0 11/3/2006: Using General Font: Trebuchet MS

16:22:19.0 11/3/2006: Using Title Font: Trebuchet MS

16:22:19.0 11/3/2006: Starting GameExtender Publisher

16:22:19.0 11/3/2006: Initialising DirectDraw

16:22:19.0 11/3/2006: Applying GameEx is Loading Image

16:22:19.2 11/3/2006: Creating DirectDraw Device

16:22:19.2 11/3/2006: Using Device: RADEON X800 PRO

16:22:19.2 11/3/2006: Setting Resolution to 800x600 32 bit color

16:22:19.6 11/3/2006: Creating DirectDraw Surfaces

16:22:19.6 11/3/2006: Creating Primary Surface - Full Screen Mode

16:22:19.6 11/3/2006: Creating Back Buffer

16:22:19.7 11/3/2006: Loading graphic surfaces

16:22:19.7 11/3/2006: Creating Surfaces Misc and Dialogs

16:22:19.8 11/3/2006: Creating Surface Volume

16:22:19.8 11/3/2006: Creating Surfaces Arrows

16:22:19.8 11/3/2006: Creating Surfaces GameEXlogo Text

16:22:19.8 11/3/2006: Creating Surfaces Toolbar

16:22:19.9 11/3/2006: Creating Surfaces Backgrounds

16:22:20.5 11/3/2006: Creating Surfaces Toolbar Controls

16:22:20.5 11/3/2006: Creating Surfaces GameEx Logo

16:22:20.5 11/3/2006: Creating Surfaces Home & Exit

16:22:20.6 11/3/2006: Creating Surfaces Snaps

16:22:20.6 11/3/2006: Creating Surfaces Menu and List Bars

16:22:20.7 11/3/2006: Creating Fonts

16:22:20.7 11/3/2006: Creating Menu Font

16:22:20.9 11/3/2006: Creating Game Font

16:22:21.0 11/3/2006: Creating Font Black

16:22:21.1 11/3/2006: Creating Font Black Small

16:22:21.3 11/3/2006: Creating Game Font Faded

16:22:21.3 11/3/2006: Creating Title Font

16:22:21.3 11/3/2006: Restoring Title Font From Cache

16:22:21.6 11/3/2006: Fonts Created Succesfully

16:22:21.6 11/3/2006: MAME Path is: D:\!GAMES\_MAME

16:22:21.6 11/3/2006: MAME EXE file is: MAME32ATXP.exe

16:22:21.6 11/3/2006: ROM Path is: D:\!GAMES\_MAME\roms

16:22:21.6 11/3/2006: Catver.ini is located at: D:\!GAMES\_MAME\_new\Catver.ini

16:22:21.6 11/3/2006: controls.ini is located at: D:\Program Files\GameEx\data\controls.ini

16:22:21.6 11/3/2006: History.dat is located at: D:\!GAMES\_MAME\_new\history.dat

16:22:21.6 11/3/2006: nplayers.ini is located at: D:\!GAMES\_MAME\_new\nplayers.ini

16:22:21.6 11/3/2006: MAMEinfo.dat is located at: D:\!GAMES\_MAME\_new\mameinfo.dat

16:22:21.7 11/3/2006: Loading Controls.ini map file

16:22:21.7 11/3/2006: Snap Path is: D:\!GAMES\_MAME\snap

16:22:21.7 11/3/2006: AVI Snap Path is: D:\!GAMES\_MAME\videos

16:22:21.7 11/3/2006: Flyer Path is: D:\!GAMES\_MAME\flyers

16:22:21.7 11/3/2006: Cabinet Path is: D:\!GAMES\_MAME\cabinets

16:22:21.7 11/3/2006: Title Path is: D:\!GAMES\_MAME\titles

16:22:21.7 11/3/2006: Panel Path is: D:\!GAMES\_MAME\panels

16:22:21.7 11/3/2006: Icon Path is: D:\!GAMES\_MAME\icons

16:22:21.7 11/3/2006: Marquee Path is: D:\!GAMES\_MAME\marquees

16:22:21.7 11/3/2006: MAME CMD options: -triplebuffer -nowindow -joy

16:22:21.7 11/3/2006: Attempting to load game list

16:22:22.1 11/3/2006: Loading last used Game List

16:22:22.1 11/3/2006: Setting Music Volume

16:22:22.1 11/3/2006: Creating DirectSound Device

16:22:22.1 11/3/2006: Trying: Primary Sound Driver

16:22:22.1 11/3/2006: Loading Sound Files

16:22:22.2 11/3/2006: DirectSound Device Created Successfully

16:22:22.2 11/3/2006: Creating ICONS

16:22:22.2 11/3/2006: Restoring Cached ICONS from File

16:22:23.0 11/3/2006: Initialising DirectInput for Gamepad support

16:22:23.1 11/3/2006: Using Device Saitek Cyborg Force Rumble Pad

16:22:23.1 11/3/2006: Using Device PSX/USB Pad

16:22:23.2 11/3/2006: Playing intro sound file

16:22:23.2 11/3/2006: Initializing MCE Remote

16:22:23.2 11/3/2006: Initialization OK! Starting GameEx!

16:22:23.2 11/3/2006: Testing Main Loop Once: Processing Frame

16:22:23.5 11/3/2006: Testing Main Loop Once: Main Loop ran successfully

16:22:29.4 11/3/2006: Starting Attract Mode

16:22:29.5 11/3/2006: Running: cmd.exe /c D: D:\!GAMES\_MAME\MAME32ATXP.exe fghthist -rompath D:\!GAMES\_MAME\roms -triplebuffer -nowindow -joy

16:22:30.7 11/3/2006: Key/Joy press detected: Exiting Attract mode: 24:36

16:24:15.2 11/3/2006: Exiting GameEx!

16:24:15.2 11/3/2006: Saving Settings

16:24:17.9 11/3/2006: Checking for applications to Launch On Exit

16:24:17.9 11/3/2006: Launching Media Center

Thats the Home key. Does that make any sense?

Thats the Home key. Does that make any sense?

Could you try an older version of MAME quite a few versions back, and what version are you using? Maybe its that.

Posted

can someone refresh my memory on how to get the log in the middle of a session? i only know how to get one when it fails to start.

also - I unplugged my keyboard to test once, and it still exited..

Posted
Thats the Home key. Does that make any sense?

Could you try an older version of MAME quite a few versions back, and what version are you using? Maybe its that.

That's very strange that it's detecting the home key being pressed. I don't have any keyboards attached to the computer, and i'm using the MCE remote. As for the version of MAME, I'm using the latest stable release (0.109.0.0) and never had this problem before. I only noticed it since the last GameEx upgrade...

Just a quick update, I tried using version 106 stable that I also had installed, and it does the same thing.

Posted
That's very strange that it's detecting the home key being pressed. I don't have any keyboards attached to the computer, and i'm using the MCE remote. As for the version of MAME, I'm using the latest stable release (0.109.0.0) and never had this problem before. I only noticed it since the last GameEx upgrade...

Just a quick update, I tried using version 106 stable that I also had installed, and it does the same thing.

what version did you upgrade from?

Posted
That's very strange that it's detecting the home key being pressed. I don't have any keyboards attached to the computer, and i'm using the MCE remote. As for the version of MAME, I'm using the latest stable release (0.109.0.0) and never had this problem before. I only noticed it since the last GameEx upgrade...

Just a quick update, I tried using version 106 stable that I also had installed, and it does the same thing.

what version did you upgrade from?

Also, try this exe and let me know.

what version did you upgrade from?

Also, try this exe and let me know.

GameEx.zip

Posted
what version did you upgrade from?

I've always been right here with ya, getting the latest versions whenever it's available. Now that I think about it, I might have done the upgrade through GameEx and not a direct download... I'm always telling people that they should do a direct download, and never even thought about doing it myself. Needless to say though, the version I upgraded from was whatever the last most recent was, 7.01 I believe. I noticed you posted a couple of exe's to try. Before I do that, I'm going to attempt a complete refresh and download GameEx's installer from the web again. If that doesn't work, then I'll try your exe's next.

Posted

LOL I'M SUCH A FRIGGIN TARD HEAD. :) Just downloaded direct from the web site and installed. What do you know.. first run I pick Start Screensaver, and it works. I'm so stupid.

Posted
LOL I'M SUCH A FRIGGIN TARD HEAD. :) Just downloaded direct from the web site and installed. What do you know.. first run I pick Start Screensaver, and it works. I'm so stupid.

Mine is now working as well, although in my case, i just went and reset all the paths to MAME32..weird, but oh well..it works and i'm happy.

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