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How to remove MAME games from list & use external emulators

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RIP-Felix GameEx God (Top Rank)

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Your rompath has reverted to C:\Roms\MAME\Roms Please change that back to your roms folder in the mame directory, unless that is where you would like to keep your roms from now on. You can do that, but unless you have a copy of the same roms in the roms folder in the Mame directory, you can't run mame from outside GameEx to verify the roms work.

Also, for some reason pacman didn't want to show up on my list without adding it to the don't filter these roms field, so you might as well and add it there.

Update list. Launch pac-man. Post log again.

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RIP-Felix
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I just downloaded the newest version of mame 0.176b -64bit and tested it with 1941.zip from a 0.161 verified version, it worked with nothing else. I just extracted it and copied 1941.zip over, it work

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@imek Test your Mame setup by downloading the attached file and placing it in the C:\Emulators\MAME 0.164 (64bit)\MAME 0.164 Extracted folder. Next double-click MameTest.bat and you should see a CMD w

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Also I noticed you put the file name pacman.zip at the end of the Rompath. I took this out and only put C:\Emulators\MAME 0.164 (64bit)\MAME 0.164 Extracted\roms

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I set up imeks GameEx.ini file on my Windows7 rig. The only things I changed was to disable HIDE DESKTOP and set WINDOW/FULLSCREEN to Windowed in the Display Settings and set the proper Mame path, Mame Executable, and Rom path in the Mame Settings.

...and I was able to launch pacman from GameEx without a problem. I tested with Mame64 0.161 which I feel is close enough to 0.164.

There was only one thing I saw that may help here is that when I launched pacman via GameEx on my two monitor setup, my primary monitor displayed pacman and my secondary monitor went black. I normally run Mame and GameEx in windows since I generally do troubleshooting, configuration, updates etc on it so I did not consider it before.

Might the black screen have something to do with the number of displays you are running or some video related addon (for instance, I occasionally have interesting video issues with some programs because of my capture card)? You might try changing RUN ON SECONDARY MONITOR in the Display settings and see what happens.

Other than that, I am beginning to run out of ideas myself on why the integrated Mame functionality isn't running smoothly.

RIP-Felix GameEx God (Top Rank)

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I with you RedDog. The only thing I can think of at this point is that his custom list was spoofing GameEx into thinking there were roms that wern't in his rom folder. Of course when he went to load them, mame would fail to and exit, returning him to GE.

We've paired it down to the very basics.

  • MAME path = C:\Emulators\MAME 0.164 (64bit)\MAME 0.164 Extracted\
  • MAME EXE = Mame64.exe
  • Rompath = C:\Emulators\MAME 0.164 (64bit)\MAME 0.164 Extracted\roms (just pacman.zip, nothing else in that folder for now)
  • Custom Lists path = empty
  • Mame Options = -joy -skip_gameinfo
  • Only working games = yes
  • Allow imperfect games = yes
  • verify roms = no
  • Only existing roms = yes
  • use game filter = no
  • Don't filter these roms = pacman
  • show all mame games = yes
  • everything else = no

I have the same settings above and after updating the list, pac-man displays and launches without problems. We verified that the above version of mame launches pacman.zip manually outside of GameEx. @imek Please double check that the above settings and directories are correctly entered. Then go into your mame folder and visually verify. Then run mame manually again to verify pac-man runs. Then start GameEx, update list, and run pac-man.

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I'm not sure what I did but Pacman is up and running now in the integrated MAME! 

here are the ini and log files

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  On 9/1/2016 at 7:10 PM, RIP-Felix said:

We've paired it down to the very basics.

  • Rompath = C:\Emulators\MAME 0.164 (64bit)\MAME 0.164 Extracted\roms\pacman.zip (just pacman.zip, nothing else in that folder for now
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Also I noticed you put the file name pacman.zip at the end of the Rompath. I took this out and only put C:\Emulators\MAME 0.164 (64bit)\MAME 0.164 Extracted\roms

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  On 9/1/2016 at 9:16 PM, imek said:

Also I noticed you put the file name pacman.zip at the end of the Rompath. I took this out and only put C:\Emulators\MAME 0.164 (64bit)\MAME 0.164 Extracted\roms

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Yeah, that C:\Emulators\MAME 0.164 (64bit)\MAME 0.164 Extracted\roms\pacman.zip would have been a mistake. Good catch though. Glad you got it working.

At this point, you have a lot of different ways you can go. You have a working Mame in GameEx that you can always go back to, so you can start tinkering with options a little more:

Let's get back to primrage, your favorite game...  ;)   If it is in your games list, give it a run. However, don't be surprised if it does not run. It did not run for me with Mame64.exe either...but it did run for me with mewui64-mame.exe (for whatever reason). If you can't make it work, I suggest getting the 0.164 version of mewui64-mame.exe, set it up in it's own folder, modify that MameTest.bat file I gave you earlier and see if it will run. If it does, you can try using that in GameEx instead of the regular Mame64.exe. A thing to keep in mind is that when a new Mame build comes out, besides just the 32bit and 64bit versions that are generally available, there are a number of groups that try to put their own spin in it. This is why we have things like Mewui64-mame, MameUI, etc. Also, some Mame-savy people will compile their own Mame with options they like and then put it out in the world for others to use...I think that most user-compiled versions are probably ok, but sometimes some don't work so well. This means that unless you get Mame from a source you know is solid, you may want to try different downloads until you get one that works well for you. For instance, even though there may be several places that have downloads that say Mame640.164, they may not be the same and you may not be able to tell the difference. I tend to get my basic simple Mame from Sourceforge. I don't recall where I got Mewui64-mame from, but I do recall trying several mames before settling on that one.

You can also try tweaking some of the Mame options such as using the game filters, not allowing clones, etc. Keep in mind that if you change an option related to Mame game listing, you will have to have GameEx recompile the list before seeing the change.

You might also consider making a copy of your GameEx.ini file just in case you make a lot of changes and need to backtrack.

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OK I got the ROM I wanted to work using the batch program RedDog gave me and the MAMEUI64_0.139_29-07-2010 from the website RIP Felix showed me outside of GameEx! But it asks me some unwanted questions before the ROM actually loads. How do I bypass these questions? is there a flag or something I can enter?

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For GameEx, there is an option in the Advance Mame Settings called Bypass Disclaimer/Warning. If you set it to Yes, it should take care of that for Mame....or you can put -skip_gameinfo in the MAME Options. You should only need one or the other.

For the batch file, add -skip_gameinfo after one of the other flags to do the same there.

RIP-Felix GameEx God (Top Rank)

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  On 9/1/2016 at 11:32 PM, imek said:

The ROM now works in GameEx! Thank you so much for your help :) you guys are amazing!

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Hey that's great! Now you can get to enjoying the games:cheers:

Now that you have a working GE Mame setup, all you should have to do is add roms to the folder and update the list. Go back and check out that post I made about model 2 and House of the dead should work too. Let us know if there's anything else you need.

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Thanks! I downloaded Model 2 Emulator v1.1a and then directed GameEx to the root folder for it. But I don't see Model 2 emulator anywhere when I run GameEx? where do I look for it?

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The ROM opens in Model 2 but it says "Sound Initializing..." and it just stays there. Should I start a new thread for this?

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  On 9/2/2016 at 12:15 AM, imek said:

... I don't see Model 2 emulator anywhere when I run GameEx? where do I look for it?

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Setup wizard --> advanced mame options --> Show Model 2 Games = yes

That will add a list of available model 2 games if you prefer, but as @RedDog said simply filling out the model 2 page in the setup wizard will add them to your all games list and automatically run thoes roms with the correct emulator. As for specific settings for the games, I'm just learning daphne and mnodel 2 myself. Been on the list for a while, just now got around to it. So more setup headaches for you and me both buddy...lol. Good luck.

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  On 9/2/2016 at 12:30 AM, imek said:

The ROM opens in Model 2 but it says "Sound Initializing..." and it just stays there. Should I start a new thread for this?

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Yes, please start a new thread. Thanks!

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@imek You originally you started this thread to remove games from the list. Now that you have Mame set up and have a little better understanding, did you get what you needed there as well?

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  On 9/2/2016 at 2:14 AM, RedDog said:

@imek You originally you started this thread to remove games from the list. Now that you have Mame set up and have a little better understanding, did you get what you needed there as well?

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I still need to clean up my list and learn about making a custom list. But I was able to get rid of all the extra games that showed up on the All Games list. So I guess for this thread's purposes yes I got what I needed there. Thank you again.

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Cool, I'm glad you got what you needed to get things going.

Would you edit the very first post in the threat and place [RESOLVED] at the start of the title. Thanks.

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