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PinballX v2.19 Visual Pinball Installation

Draco1962

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Draco1962 GameEx God (Top Rank)

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Hi Tom - Thought I would start a thread with a question. If I understand correctly, the changes noted with v2.19 will only install on a clean install of PinballX.

For those of us that do not have Visual Pinball installed, I am assuming that will we have to uninstall PinballX and install the 2.19 in order to kick off this feature with the auto installation of Visual Pinball. Is that a correct assumption?

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Tom Speirs
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It seems I have scared people off this install? Do I normally screw up so bad!? I think you should be able to trust me on history that its not going to screw up your system in any way, right? I've bee

Draco1962
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Thanks very much for sharing your media and advice! I appreciate the assistance from everyone. It is a great reminder of what a great community we have in that most everyone is willing to share to ens

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If you don't have Visual Pinball installed and you choose to install it it will set the settings automatically. No need to uninstall. If PinMAME is not installed the option will always appear to install VP and automate.

The warning about settings on a clean install was aimed at our "expert users" (not newbies to VP) who might be a bit surprised to find that PinballX is overwriting Visual Pinball and B2S settings automatically.

Please try it out and let me know. I was thinking of you with this buddy.

Tom Speirs GameEx God (Top Rank)

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Something I just wanted to mention if folks were wondering why the VP install download was so big - it is because it includes .net framework 4 (for XP) and 4.5 (for Vista and above).

This is in order to completing automate everything as B2S Server relies on .net 4 or 4.5 and 4 wont install on Win 7 x64 for some reason so I needed to include both.

It is just me being a perfectionist :)

 

Cheers.

Tom.

 

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Ok, here comes the NEWB question... How do I get it to kick off the VP installation? Just tick the Auto Configure option in the VP settings via the Setup Wizard or is there something more?

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And BTW, Thanks for thinking of me regarding this feature! My b-day is next week so I bet you can guess what I will be doing on part of it! :)

Tom Speirs GameEx God (Top Rank)

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It should be all done for you. Did you do the VP install when running setup? If you didn't get the option then you already have PinMAME installed.

If its left over from when I had the cab then try uninstalling PinMAME. You do this by running the PinMAME setup.exe.

To be clear the VP installation is kicked off during install of PinballX.

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If your already setup with PBX and VP it is just business as usual.

If you're already setup with VP and not PBX it is still not too much of a big deal either. It does not change much and makes no difference unless you have some really special setup of VP or B2D or something. Just make sure you set all the controls for PinballX. That is pretty much it.

 

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OK, I had to delete the PinMAME references from the registry as it was not showing installed to be able to uninstall it. Once that step was complete, I saw the prompt upon install to setup and configure Visual Pinball.

Now to try to figure out how to add tables, etc. Looking forward to some Doctor Who and Space 1999, KISS, and other pinball goodness!

Tom Speirs GameEx God (Top Rank)

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Look at the game manager to add tables. That was improved with this release too. Use "Import Table". The only other strict requirement is the PinMAME roms but these are available easily and also on the FTP.

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No. Always good to have a backup though obviously.

 

To be clear:

PinballX settings are never changed on an update install. (Still good to have a backup)
In regards to Visual Pinball and this new release, the only settings it sets are for the keyboard/gamepad controls and setting the resolution to full screen. It does not mess with anything else. This is actually a good thing.

 

Cheers.
Tom

 

 

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So far I have been able to confirm that it does download and install VP. I will be acquiring tables to test further, but likely won't get much time to devote until sometime this weekend. Initial test I was able to load the Doctor Who table outside of PinballX. Thanks again! I will report back with any issues or questions I may have.

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I was wondering where I can grab a copy of 2.17 or 2.18?  I'm afraid to install 2.19, as everything is configured perfectly including my VP, and don't want control settings or resolution changes.

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@koolywiz you should be good. 2.19 doesn't change much of anything if you're already set up. I installed it over 2.17 and everything is working the same as before. That being said I always make a backup, just in case, and delete it after a few days of use if something does go haywire. 

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OK, I have tried to search for a solution but bupkis so far. I decided to start with one table (Doctor Who) and have the ROMs and tables placed in the correct directory. Outside and inside of PinballX, the table comes up left rotated. I have my rotation set for 270 which is perfect for Pinball FX2 and Pinball Arcade.  Anyone have a clue?

Here is my pinballx.ini

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Just an FYI, I changed the rotation to 0 and no difference for Pinball FX2 and Pinball Arcade - they still display in cabinet orientation. Visual Pinball, however, is still left rotated.

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UPDATE: Making some progress. I had to load the table and set the XY Rotation to 0 in the backdrop settings, in addtion to tinkering with the X and Y scaling. The table now displays properly in a cabinet orientation. Unfortunately, it is not playing proper as it will tilt almost immediately. Likely as a result of running the VirtuaPin 2 setup. Does anyone currently use X360ce with VP? 

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Nope. You set your buttons in VP Preferences -> Keys. Analog nudging and plunger should be supported in VP automatically but you may have to do some tuning.

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It seems I have scared people off this install? Do I normally screw up so bad!? I think you should be able to trust me on history that its not going to screw up your system in any way, right? I've been doing this stuff since the age of 9 and I rarely screw up and on the rare occasion I have messed up have you known me not to address it?

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I think they are concerned about having to redo their settings after the update.  I had no worries and didn't even backup anything - a leap of faith that it wouldbe alright.  No disappointment so far!

Now I need to learn the ins and outs of VP!

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  On 6/3/2016 at 3:46 AM, Carny_Priest said:

Nope. You set your buttons in VP Preferences -> Keys. Analog nudging and plunger should be supported in VP automatically but you may have to do some tuning.

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Where do I go to adjust the plunger and nudging settings?  Likely this is the same issue I had before where the sound is causing the game to tilt.

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In Visual Pinball editor, menu bar Preferences -> Keys... Global Options, Axis Assignments

I don't know what PinballX installs. A thorough installation for cabinets would have v9.92, Physmod_5, and v10.0. Settings for each version are stored in separate registries so you would have to tune all three. Because of changes to the physics engine over time, the values would be different. 

I'm used to it at this point, but, yeah, coming at it new the learning curve is really steep. 

I think gtxjoe posted some tutorials on YouTube. Might be good to take a look.

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@Draco1962 you might have a calibration issue with whatever your using for your accelerometer.

I was using a UHID nano for buttons and the accelerometer and had issues in Windows 10 after I upgraded

Now I'm just using the Zebsboards plungers button encoder/nudge controller with the latest firmware world of difference lost the problem

 

Look at this manual it has a section on calibration that universal. Has to be right in windows first

http://www.u-hid.com/u-config/u-hid Manual.pdf

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