Commodore 64 Gameex.

[methodman]

I have 40,000 C64 disks in this collection. I have successfully set up both the Amiga and the Atari St gamebases but the C64 absolutely refuses to work. I also unzipped the files so they would be d64.

Is there a way to use the gamebase materials in Gameex and am I better off keeping everything as T64 and D64 or could I keep it zips and have it still work?

[methodman]

OK now I will work on this. I have not had success in fully understanding how the emulator side works yet. I normally keep everything related to one computer system or console together in one envelope so with respect to the C64 I have a GameEx Commodore 64 folder in that I have my Emulator folder which contains the emulator Winvice

I decided to start over so my tree is C/Gameex Commodore64/Games/Commodore64/Games and there are the files as D64 and T64. The problem I have is they are zipped. I would like to keep them zipped. But Winvice doesn't read zipped files and then how do I get Gameex to recognize both the D64 and T64 in diffent folders. I put these in more or less the way Gamebase delivered them but I have gotten that to work with both the AMiga and Atari st files but I can't get it to work with that Gamebase so I would like to get it working in Gameex. What amn I missing? None of my other emulators will work in Gameex either. I just get no games found when I point it to the directories where they are.

[methodman]

In Hyperspin they lay out each game cleanly in a folder but in Gameex do I have to dump everything together to make it work?. Or sort a certain amount of it myself and label put to things like an A folder b folder c folder or will GameEx do that for me. Sorry I am confused about the whole database thing. What do I need to do as a user. When I extract with 7zip rar it extracts each game in its own folder. Is this bad? Should they all be dumped all over the floor directory. Also with respect to C64 can I be nesting things to deep so that Gameex can't read it? Sorry for dumb questions but I am able to unconfused myself so now I will share how I am confused?

[Draco1962]

I recommend against unzipping everything. WinVice should support .zip It is possible you have a version older than 2.4 found here. There are x86 and x64 versions. I am not sure whether that matters or not with Gamebase64, but I would probably err on the side of caution and stick with the x86 version regardless of my OS being 64-bit.

You will also want to make sure you have it running well outside of GameEx first. Visit Gamebase64 for additional requirements that are not covered by the Gamebase ST guide.

[methodman]

Thanks for the download links. One thing I have noticed is I am having problems with Winvice reading zipped files. Even after I select zip They never seem to unzip and for example I was trying to run forbidden forest which I know works I have used it before. But I never see the directory copied and the disks never run correctly If I go ahead an unzip everything I never have this problem. But I can understand what I am doing wrong now so I am going to try to set it up correctly.

[methodman]

So now I downloaded the other X64 and the long filenames show which lets me search through the catalog of games but when I set the file to zip. It shows zip on the Winvice commodore 64. How do people make the unzip work? What step am I missing?

[Draco1962]

Is this behavior taking place outside of GameEx? If so, I would suggest asking on their forum how other members resolved the issue as the latest WinVICE supports .zip format. Once you have the application working outside of GameEx, using the integrated Gamebase support is a no-brainer.

[DazzleHP]

Is this behavior taking place outside of GameEx? If so, I would suggest asking on their forum how other members resolved the issue as the latest WinVICE supports .zip format. Once you have the application working outside of GameEx, using the integrated Gamebase support is a no-brainer.

+1 This. You need to get WinVICE and Gamebase playing ball first. This is not easy. But once you get them working together GameEx will embrace it like Yin and Yang, Plus and Minus, Hard and Soft, Mother and child You get by drift

[methodman]

OK I dropped 7Zipg and m and the dll file into both Winvice and the games directory and while it seems like something is going on the color background changes nothing lands right ever. Should I just blow it off and unzip the roms They work fine when I do that but I would really like to make it work with them zipped. Also in GameEx would I need to initiate a different instance of gameEx per directory. (one for D64, another for T64) Sorry if I seem dumb I don't think this stuff is that easy to do.

[Draco1962]

The choice is yours if you want to run WinVICE as a separate emulator and place your unzipped ROMS in a directory. You should be able to put them in one directory. I still think that the Gamebase option is best and if you do some more investigating you will be able to get it to work correctly. Some systems are a little more intense and cantankerous to get going but worth it in the end.

Truth be told, I am kind of partial to the Atari 8-bit systems and probably won't bother with C64 emulation most of the retail stuff (that I was interested in at least) available for the C64 was available for the Atari 8-bit systems.

[nullPointer]

You don't seem dumb at all man! Some times in order to appease the vengeful gods of emulation you must first feed their awful gaping maws with your blood, sweat, and sweet, sweet tears of frustration. They're just kind of a PITA like that. We've all been there.

Hopefully GameEx will actually simplify things for you. First things first though, do you plan on using WinVice through Gamebase (and subsequently through GameEx), or are you going to be using WinVice directly and on it's own?

[stigzler]

You don't seem dumb at all man! Some times in order to appease the vengeful gods of emulation you must first feed their awful gaping maws with your blood, sweat, and sweet, sweet tears of frustration. They're just kind of a PITA like that. We've all been there.

This. Totally.

[methodman]

I was actually trying to do both. To learn how Gameex and Gamebase work. But this first problem is a Winvice Issue. I am unable to get zipped files of any type to unzip. There really aren't that many websites that deal with it. Lemon64 forum mentions something and also dos gamers commodore64 but they all date from around 2009. Really old. There is a problem with the ziptool not being able to read bracfkets right than that supposedly was fixed. But I can't get it to properly respond. Any ideas. Also infozip is no longer around is it? I used that in one installation and got the gamebase to work but I couldn't find it. Isn't 7Unaip the same thing except a different vendor?

[methodman]

Draco Yes the Atari 400 and 800's were good computer. Also for both the 400 and 800 they have the programming books available. The problem is the files are so much larger than the Commodore pdf. I spent 2 days downloading their books to lose them when my computer crashed. I still am unsure which graphics chip was better C64 or the Atari's graphics. That was designed by the Amiga guy Jay Milner.

[Draco1962]

As an alternative, have you considered CCS64 instead of WinVice?

[methodman]

I downloaded that one but does it have zip support? They discussed it in enhancements but beyond that I think it has a higher learning curve to figure out how to use it. Am I thinking about this the right way. Will the C64 emulators work with any zip package or are they made to only recognize certain brands. Am I putting the files in the wrong place? I'll play around again tomorrow and see if I can't make additional progress thanks.