davidj1987 Posted June 9, 2013 Posted June 9, 2013 Hey everyone!I am starting to setup disc based systems with GameEx and I am starting with Sega CD and I am having a hell of a time trying to set it up. I am using the latest TOSEC set so no bin/cue and I do have Daemon Tools installed, but no games are showing up even if I extract them or leave them in the .zip archives - which would be preferred. There are .CCD .IMG and .SUB files in the archives. Now, If I manually mount the ISO and open it in Kega Fusion as a mounted ISO, works fine but not in GameEx, all I get is the BIOS screen and when I press start I go right to the CD audio screen and I can't even play the audio tracks or anything, and yes I have my BIOS setup properly.Here's the part of my .cfg that relates to Sega CD:emu_28_enabled=Trueemu_28_system=Sega CDemu_28_category=Consoleemu_28_emulator=Fusionemu_28_version=3.64emu_28_rating=8.9emu_28_downloadurl=http://www.gamesdbase.com/setupwizard/emulators/download/Fusion.7zemu_28_requiredfiles=eu_mcd1_9210.bin,jp_mcd1_9112.bin,us_scd1_9210.binemu_28_info=Fusion(formerly known as Kega II and Kega Fusion) is a Sega SG1000, SC3000, Master System, Game Gear, Genesis/Megadrive, SegaCD/MegaCD and 32X emulatoremu_28_titletext=Sega CDemu_28_startpagename=[Console] Sega CD (Fusion)emu_28_startpagelogo=Sega CDemu_28_command=Fusion.exe -scd -fullscreen -CDROM Femu_28_romfilter=emu_28_database=[Console] Sega CDemu_28_configfile=[Mapping Off] Exit (Process Close)emu_28_mapfile=emu_28_rompath=e:\scdemu_28_snappath=C:\Assets\Sega CD\Snapsemu_28_titlepath=C:\Assets\Sega CD\Titlesemu_28_boxpath=C:\Assets\Sega CD\Boxesemu_28_cartpath=C:\Assets\Sega CD\Cartridgesemu_28_manualpath=C:\Assets\Sega CD\Manualsemu_28_controlpanelpath=C:\Assets\Sega CD\Controlsemu_28_workingpath=D:\emulators\Fusionemu_28_mapkeys=Trueemu_28_waitbeforekeys=emu_28_sendkeys=emu_28_replacedash=Falseemu_28_replaceunder=Trueemu_28_capitals=Falseemu_28_removebrackets=Trueemu_28_showdesktop=Trueemu_28_debug=Falseemu_28_alsolaunch=emu_28_launchbefore=""C:\Program Files (x86)\DAEMON Tools Lite\DTLite.exe" -mount 0,"[ROMPATH]\[ROMFILE]""emu_28_launchafter=cmd /c "C:\Program Files (x86)\DAEMON Tools Lite\DTLite.exe" -unmount 0emu_28_excludedfiles=emu_28_custombackground=emu_28_playmusic=Falseemu_28_dontshowinfo=emu_28_playselectionmusic=Falseemu_28_selectionmusicfolder=emu_28_pcgame=Falseemu_28_gamesin7zips=Trueemu_28_playinscreensaver=Falseemu_28_showmostplayed=Trueemu_28_randommostplayed=Trueemu_28_cdcheck=Falseemu_28_cdcheckfile=emu_28_videosnappath=emu_28_musicpath=emu_28_romsinfolders=True I beleive I enabled ISO support when I installed GameEx, and keep in mind some of these settings like the launch before and launch after even though they are in my .cfg file they don't reflect in the setup wizard (I presume this is normal) and I haven't set up media yet so I am using the default directories for now. Hopefully it is easier when I setup PS1, Saturn, NeoGeo CD and TG16/PCE CD! Thanks again!
Draco1962 Posted June 9, 2013 Posted June 9, 2013 When reporting a possible GameEx bug or error, please ensure you submit a copy of your log.txt and gameex.ini file so we may quickly assist you. Please refer to this link for additional information. You may want to use runitgame.bat to see the results that may point to a setup error. Please post the resulting log file as well.
davidj1987 Posted June 9, 2013 Author Posted June 9, 2013 As requested - this is on another computer, same issue. It would be awesome if I could keep the ISO's in zip or 7zip files and load the ISO that way but for some reason daemon tools isn't working with gameex. :/GameEx.inilog.txtSega CD.ini
hansolo77 Posted June 9, 2013 Posted June 9, 2013 Have you tried running the images straight in Fusion? I think the latest version supports CD-Images without needing to be mounted first. I have bin/cue images and they work fine for me. My setting is:rom filter = *.cuecommand = fusion.exe -scd -fullscreen "[ROMPATH]\[ROMFILE]"All the rest is pretty much as needed. For the most part, all you need is the -scd flag to tell Fusion to run the file as a Sega CD rom.
davidj1987 Posted June 9, 2013 Author Posted June 9, 2013 My images aren't bin/cue - I am using TOSEC ISO's which have a .ccd, .img, .sub files. and if I could have them within a .zip file that would be oh so awesome. I do have some .bin and .cue ISO's I'll try out.
hansolo77 Posted June 10, 2013 Posted June 10, 2013 I think the .img is the actual IMAGE, and the others are like filler/support files. Try having Fusion open up just the .img file directly. It might not be that, what ever file has the largest size is the IMAGE to load. The only thing you might break is the digital audio if you don't have the support files to say what tracks are audio and which ones are the data. TOSEC is a bit tricky like that. I hate to say it. If you spent a lot of time getting a complete TOSEC collection, I'm sorry. You're better off getting a NoIntro set. TOSEC is a complete rip of every bit from every disk. Even if the disks aren't playable. Their whole purpose is 100% total digital backup of everything available. NoIntro on the other hand takes only the parts of TOSEC that are compatible, playable, 100% working with no issues/errors. They're the better choice. I had a NoIntro set (all backed up on burnt CD's now) and they're in bin/cue. GoodTools format is ok too, but a little more heavy on filesize. What the GoodTools does is combine all regions of the same game into a single file. So Sonic CD that's in the USA is included along with the Sonic CD from Japan and Sonic CD from Europe. Then they're all zipped into one file for easy storing. GameEx will work with GoodTools in that it will automatically unzip the file and display the contents so you can choose which region of the game you want to play. In most cases however, I just went with the USA NoIntro sets since I can't read Japanese (cuts out at least 1/3rd the size there) and I don't need PAL versions on my NTSC TV (cuts out another 1/3). If there are some Japanese only games, I can pick and chose them as needed. Anyway, just use that as a reference. The fact that you have a TOSEC is fine too. It's just that their images aren't going to be in a compatible format a lot of the time, and they will have a TON more stuff than you need.If worse comes to worse, you might think about getting some kind of batch converter that can convert all images into a different format (ie; .img into .bin/cue). If non such program exists (I'm sure there is, but if not) we can help you another way. You might have to go through the process of setting up an external LAUNCH BEFORE to mount the images and LAUNCH AFTER to unmount them afterwards. Then you just have to tell GameEx to launch Fusion.exe -scd and then launch before to launch daemontools and mount the [rompath]\[romfile] then have the launch after tell daemontools to unmount. Shouldn't be too hard. It'll work in the meanwhile till you get around to possibly obtaining a different romset.
hansolo77 Posted June 10, 2013 Posted June 10, 2013 Just to update here.. I spent a little more time going over your settings in your OP.... -- CRAP CAN'T PASTE?! --You have what appears to be 2 quotation marks "" in your LaunchBefore path. Try removing them.Also, you say you're not seeing your rom list in GameEx.. try setting a rom filter to something like *.img. If they're zips, try setting it to *.zip. And are you sure that e:\scd is the proper location for your roms? Try adding another \ at the end: e:\scd\
davidj1987 Posted June 11, 2013 Author Posted June 11, 2013 I use No-Intro for my roms. I have no problems with my cart based systems thnakfully! ISO's I use whatever is the best - Redump seems to be a bit behind the curve with Sega CD compared to TOSEC (IMO) however I had a breakthru when I used my games that are bin/cue for Sega CD - virtual clone drive wasn't installed but I can only load the .bin files as VCD doesn't support .cue files and when you use ".bin" files in Kega, the game will run but no CD audio. :/I'll keep pluggin away.
Adultery Posted June 11, 2013 Posted June 11, 2013 Did you try my Virtual Drive Loader plugin? I keep all my ISOs in 7zips and mount them with the plugin. Super easy to use. http://www.gameex.info/forums/topic/12415-plugin-virtual-drive-loader/ You don't have to use launch before and after command in most cases.
hansolo77 Posted June 11, 2013 Posted June 11, 2013 DOH! I completely forgot about that plugin you made! You should give it a try, it does make things a lot easier. Also, for your bin/cue images that you DO have, just have Fusion open the .cue, it'll know to use the .bin as well.
Adultery Posted June 11, 2013 Posted June 11, 2013 I personally don't keep bin/cue/iso without 7-zipping nowadays since I store my games on my NAS server, so there's a huge benefit to mounting as opposed to keeping those big files on your cabinet.
davidj1987 Posted June 11, 2013 Author Posted June 11, 2013 Gentlemen (maybe ladies?) I will take a look into this and report back. This is a fun if not slightly consuming project.
davidj1987 Posted June 11, 2013 Author Posted June 11, 2013 Daemon tools I got working.So sorry to double post but I have a progress update, and I cant attach my new .cfg in my last post. I got .cue files working but how can I get .ccd files in .zip archives working? I have "gamesin7zips" enabled but I have tried adding "*.ccd" remove quotes in the .cfg but no work... Daemon tools supports it. It is missing in the current .cfg though. Any dice? Last thing I need for Sega CD and hopefully this will work for other systems but they may be .cue in zip archives.GameEx.ini
Adultery Posted June 11, 2013 Posted June 11, 2013 Ahh do you have multiple filters in the rom filter section? Does it say *.cue;*.ccd or something similar? If your answer is yes on that, it's something I need to fix (I may be using old code that doesn't split filters into an array like it's supposed to). I can fix that (assuming you're using the plugin).Nevermind, you're not using the plugin.
davidj1987 Posted June 12, 2013 Author Posted June 12, 2013 Adultery - I enabled the plugin and I am almost there... I can taste it! Just no cd audio, but I can load games within zips now and almost there after messing around!If I manually load the .ccd I get audio, but not when Gameex loads it in Kega. :/ Soooooooooo close GameExCCD.txt
Adultery Posted June 12, 2013 Posted June 12, 2013 So if you manually mount the CCD file and load the mounted image the sound works, but if the loader loads the image it doesn't? That's strange... Can you post your runitgame.bat? Open it in a text editor (Right Click, Edit) and copy/paste the data here after you load up the CCD in GameEx.Additionally, here are a few changes in your GameEx.ini that you need to address:[Emulator_20]VideoSnapPath=CDCheckFile=CDCheck=FalseRandomMostPlayed=TrueShowMostPlayed=TruePlayInScreenSaver=FalseGamesIn7Zips=TruePCGame=FalseSelectionMusicFolder=PlaySelectionMusic=FalseDontShowInfo=PlayMusic=FalseCustomBackground=ExcludedFiles=LaunchAfter=LaunchBefore=AlsoLaunch=*.img;*.zip <---------- Delete These!Debug=FalseShowDesktop=TrueRemoveBrackets=TrueCapitals=FalseReplaceUnder=TrueReplaceDash=FalseSendKeys=WaitBeforeKeys=MapKeys=TrueWorkingPath=D:\emulators\FusionControlPanelPath=D:\pinball\New folder\Sega CD\ControlsManualPath=D:\pinball\New folder\Sega CD\ManualsCartPath=D:\pinball\New folder\Sega CD\CartridgesBoxPath=D:\pinball\New folder\Sega CD\BoxesTitlePath=D:\pinball\New folder\Sega CD\TitlesSnapPath=D:\pinball\New folder\Sega CD\SnapsRomPath=D:\ISOS\Sega CDMapFile=ConfigFile=[Mapping Off] Exit (Process Close)Database=[Console] Sega CDRomFilter=*.img;*ccd <---------- ADD THISCommand=Fusion.exe -scd -fullscreen "[ROMPATH]\[ROMFILE]" <---------- DELETE THIS**StartPageLogo=Sega CDStartPageName=Sega CDTitleText=Sega CDInfo=Fusion(formerly known as Kega II and Kega Fusion) is a Sega SG1000, SC3000, Master System, Game Gear, Genesis/Megadrive, SegaCD/MegaCD and 32X emulatorRequiredFiles=eu_mcd1_9210.bin,jp_mcd1_9112.bin,us_scd1_9210.binDownloadUrl=http://www.gamesdbase.com/setupwizard/emulators/download/Fusion.7zRating=8.9Version=3.64Emulator=FusionCategory=ConsoleSystem=Sega CDEnabled=Truelastgame=** = If you don't have the plugin enabled specifically for this emulator in the plugin's config, you should remove that configuration and use this command instead. Essentially this is the plug-and-play command to load the image to DamonsTools without any need for mount and unmount commands.Command=Fusion.exe -scd -fullscreen [DTLOADER] <---------- ADD THISDoes that help any?
davidj1987 Posted June 12, 2013 Author Posted June 12, 2013 YES! I got it working except I had to set SCSI for DTOOLS and now it is grand. I think I have figured out everything except the menu bar in SNES9X (I set the hide menu to true) but when I press escape... I get the menu bar and I have to do alt f4 to exit back to gameex. Grr. 1
Adultery Posted June 13, 2013 Posted June 13, 2013 If you open the configuration for zsnes there's an option to disable the GUI (front-end mode I think it is). I'm not sure about SNES9x though.
hansolo77 Posted June 13, 2013 Posted June 13, 2013 YES! I got it working except I had to set SCSI for DTOOLS and now it is grand. I think I have figured out everything except the menu bar in SNES9X (I set the hide menu to true) but when I press escape... I get the menu bar and I have to do alt f4 to exit back to gameex. Grr.Awesome! Glad you got it to work!
davidj1987 Posted June 15, 2013 Author Posted June 15, 2013 You can close this and mark it resovled - this helped me with Saturn in Gameex too! Thanks! 1
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