Subtitle woes revisited

[troy]

After taking some time to see if it is really annoying me (and it is) I decided to revisit my subtitle problem.

First, I am using the Cyberlink codec for DVD playback. Shark007 codecs are installed for videos. Use ffdshow is off.

Heres the problem:

I THOUGHT i even reauthored the DVD turning all subtitiles off, but they are there again. Every DVD I play via ISO has subtitiles on. I try to use the pagedown key to switch between them and turn them off, but it does nothing.

I have them turned off in the shark007 config for ffdshow (which i know doesnt mean anything since they are turned off anyway)

The only recourse I have is to rip the DVD as a video file and play it that way.

Is there something - anything - that I am missing. I know I'll probably have to post my my configs again, but honestly I have tried every combination of options and i dont know what the problem is. Im starting to think re-encoding as a file instead of ISO is just a necessary evil.

Any initial thoughts? Ill post my configs tonight or tomorrow too... but maybe theres something simple im missing?

[headkaze]

Have you checked VobSub? GameEx can control both ffdshow and VobSub subtitles.

[troy]

Im pretty sure thats off. thats in shark007 too, right?

They come on even when i make sure they are off in the dvd menu itself too.

Just one of those little annoyances im trying to squash.

Have you checked VobSub? GameEx can control both ffdshow and VobSub subtitles.

[Draco1962]

Is this happening both within and outside of GameEx?

[troy]

I only use gameex... I bought the standalone cyberlink codec since i couldnt get any others to work right inside. Havent tried media player.

Is this happening both within and outside of GameEx?

[Draco1962]

You should probably try it outside of GameEx to see if the issue occurs in the media player as well.

[troy]

Tried several things:

1) Tried WMP. No subtitles present

2) tried switching subtitles from off to VOB sub in shark007, then disabling in the sub controls... they still show

3) tried switchint to ffdshow subs, and then turning each sub off... they still show.

Ive been using gameex for close to 3 years now, and this particular issue has been going on that long. I think it is just going to have to be a permanent annoyance. I just can't turn the darn things off. Ive tried every combination of settings in shark007.

[headkaze]

Have you had a look at the Cyberlink codec settings? See if there is a subtitle option there.

[troy]

Yeah tried that too.

I think Im just stuck. There are far too many subtitle options in shark007 (vob, ffdshow and everything inbetween) and too many permutations.

It has to be something in gameex tho since WMP plays without them. I just dont want to waste your time by saying "yep yep tried that" through all possible combinations. So, if I figure it out, I'll let you know, but I dont want to waste anybody's time. Ill just rip em to a file instead of ISO.