Here's what I've been getting since I installed direct 10 and updated gameex with the new update: 22:58:10.2 3/2/2008: GameEx: Version 9.13: Starting Log 22:58:10.2 3/2/2008: Operating System Platform: Win32NT 22:58:10.2 3/2/2008: Operating System Name: Windows XP 22:58:10.2 3/2/2008: Operating System Version: 5.1.2600 22:58:10.2 3/2/2008: Checking for versions of .net Framework installed 22:58:10.2 3/2/2008: .net Framework 2.0 Installed 22:58:10.2 3/2/2008: VIA C7-D Processor 1500MHz, 958MB 22:58:10.2 3/2/2008: 1.5Ghz 22:58:10.3 3/2/2008: Running Randomize() 22:58:10.3 3/2/2008: Loading PlugIns 22:58:11.2 3/2/2008: Checking for applications to Launch On Startup 22:58:11.3 3/2/2008: Launching and not waiting: c:\Process.exe -k mousestick.exe 22:58:11.3 3/2/2008: Running Misc startup tasks 22:58:11.3 3/2/2008: Setting Menu types 22:58:11.4 3/2/2008: Opening Configuration File 22:58:11.4 3/2/2008: Getting Configuration Values 22:58:11.6 3/2/2008: Using Theme: Default - RedEx - Arcade800x600 22:58:11.6 3/2/2008: Checking for alternate Image Directory for Theme: Default - RedEx - Arcade800x600 22:58:11.8 3/2/2008: Launching HideOS.exe 22:58:11.8 3/2/2008: Initialising Video/MNG DLL's 22:58:11.8 3/2/2008: Arcade Mode is on 22:58:12.1 3/2/2008: Hiding Taskbar 22:58:12.2 3/2/2008: Is Media Center running? 22:58:12.2 3/2/2008: Checking/Creating LCD Registry values 22:58:12.2 3/2/2008: Check Media Center Exit/Start Mode 22:58:12.2 3/2/2008: Media Center Mode 2 22:58:12.3 3/2/2008: Snap Delay set to: 2 22:58:12.3 3/2/2008: Get other settings 22:58:12.3 3/2/2008: Reading MAME hall of fame 22:58:12.5 3/2/2008: Set: Find emulator artwork on best match basis 22:58:12.6 3/2/2008: Start work for Form 22:58:12.6 3/2/2008: Getting Original Screen Size 22:58:12.6 3/2/2008: Opening Database Connection 22:58:13.1 3/2/2008: Initializing Component 22:58:13.2 3/2/2008: Retrieving resolution setting 22:58:13.3 3/2/2008: Creating Radio Station Genres 22:58:13.6 3/2/2008: Succesfully created station genres 22:58:14.0 3/2/2008: Loading Controls.ini map file 22:58:14.0 3/2/2008: Loading Custom Emulators 22:58:14.1 3/2/2008: Loading Emulator 1: Nintendo (NES) 22:58:14.2 3/2/2008: Loading Emulator 2: Super Nintendo 22:58:14.3 3/2/2008: Loading Emulator 3: Movies 22:58:14.4 3/2/2008: Loading Emulator 4: [HandHeld] Nintendo GameBoy (VisualBoyAdvance) 22:58:15.3 3/2/2008: Using 2D Animations 22:58:15.3 3/2/2008: Using General Font: 22:58:15.3 3/2/2008: Using Title Font: 22:58:15.3 3/2/2008: Initialising DirectDraw 22:58:15.4 3/2/2008: Applying GameEx is Loading Image 22:58:15.5 3/2/2008: Creating DirectDraw Device 22:58:15.5 3/2/2008: Using Device: VIA/S3G UniChrome Pro IGP 22:58:15.8 3/2/2008: 0mb video memory available 22:58:15.9 3/2/2008: Setting Resolution to 800x600 16 bit color 22:58:16.0 3/2/2008: Creating DirectDraw Surfaces 22:58:16.0 3/2/2008: Creating Primary Surface - Full Screen Mode 22:58:16.0 3/2/2008: Creating Back Buffer 22:58:16.1 3/2/2008: Loading graphic Surfaces 22:58:16.1 3/2/2008: Display is running at: 800x600 16bit color, 60hz 22:58:16.3 3/2/2008: Creating Surfaces Misc and Dialogs 22:58:16.4 3/2/2008: --**-- 22:58:16.4 3/2/2008: Error: Value does not fall within the expected range. 22:58:16.4 3/2/2008: at Microsoft.DirectX.DirectDraw.Surface.CreateSurfaceFromHBitmap(IDirectDrawSurface ** lppSurf, HBITMAP__* hbm, SurfaceDescription desc, Device dev) 22:58:16.4 3/2/2008: at Microsoft.DirectX.DirectDraw.Surface..ctor(Bitmap source, SurfaceDescription desc, Device dev) 22:58:16.4 3/2/2008: at l.a(Surface& A_0, String A_1, SurfaceDescription A_2, Boolean A_3, Boolean A_4) 22:58:16.4 3/2/2008: at l.c(Boolean A_0, Boolean A_1, Boolean A_2) 22:58:16.4 3/2/2008: at l.a(Boolean A_0, Boolean A_1, Boolean A_2, Boolean A_3, Boolean A_4, Int32 A_5) 22:58:16.4 3/2/2008: at l.a(Boolean A_0, String A_1, Boolean A_2) 22:58:16.4 3/2/2008: at l..ctor() 22:58:16.4 3/2/2008: 22:58:16.4 3/2/2008: It was detected you experienced a DirectX error. 22:58:16.4 3/2/2008: Please note the following for possible solutions to your problem: 22:58:16.4 3/2/2008: 1. Ensure you have the latest version of DirectX installed. 22:58:16.4 3/2/2008: 2. Ensure you have the latest Manufacturer provided video card drivers. 22:58:16.4 3/2/2008: NOTE: Windows/Microsoft Update does not contain the latest. 22:58:16.4 3/2/2008: NOTE: Manufacturer normally means ATI, NVidia, or Intel. Not the brand. 22:58:16.4 3/2/2008: www.ati.com www.nvidia.com 22:58:16.4 3/2/2008: 3. If you do not have a modern video card try the following. 1. Turn off advanced Graphics. 2. Try a lower resolution. 3. Try turning on and using 16-bit colour 22:58:16.4 3/2/2008: 4. Ensure any required video codecs are installed. 22:58:16.4 3/2/2008: 5. Try a different theme, or try running the theme at the resolution it was designed for 22:58:16.4 3/2/2008: 22:58:16.4 3/2/2008: Closing database connection 22:58:16.5 3/2/2008: GameEx is exiting with errors 22:58:18.3 3/2/2008: ERRORS DETECTED: EXITING It was working before both of them. Now i can get in some times, but my game pad doesn't work in game ex very well and I get no picture from any emulator (nestopia, znes) WTF!!