I can get the pool game to work in winape when it loads up through gameex it autotypes run"poolcd.bin into winape then it goes back to the command prompt. but if you then type cat you will see a directory of whats on the disk image , it needs to type run"ahpool i picked that game at random ,but am sure theres lots more games that will have this type of problem ,its probably asking a lot or impossible to get the loader to do all this, but i am grateful for all your help.