I made myself some bat files to launch games via Kenclops Loader, to verifiy it is not an gameex issue. It is'nt, it is just Vista, god damn it! The same bat files under WinXP enviroment will let me happily boot game after game after game. Obviously Vista does something strange after its first used the loader for the first time, I'm assuming it something to do with the conime.exe in task manager after it is first sucessfully ran. Weird that a restart on loader 1.1 does not cure the problem for atleast one play, like v1.0 which did. Anyway, for now, I'll please myself with the gaming rig having a quick launch of bat file shortcuts for playing DC stuff on that. But the end game really is getting it to work on my Shuttle. Obviously If Installed WinMCE instead on Vista that would cure it! Just have not got the stomach to go through setting it up again! Unless you guys have Vista, I'm assuming this is likea dark alley really!