3D GAMES

[gonchal2004]

Hi to all. i have read that geme ex has a zinc option that lets play to 3d games like tekken directly from mame. But how does it works?. i have put zinc emulator in the hard disk, and i have enabled zinc in game ex, telling the paths, exe..... but..... i don´t see tekken works better, it is still lunching by mame. the only new thing i have seen is that in mame list games appears playstation but when i select it it says "don´t games found". can anyone help me?

[gonchal2004]

well some advances. i have make un update game list, and finally there are the list with all the zinc games but know when i select the game it loads and finally send an error like "cannot load, error render..... " or something. Does anyone know what the problem is?

[headkaze]

Make sure you have downloaded the ZiNc OpenGL and D3D renderers 1.2 and extracted the renderer.znc file from the wind3d folder into the Zinc folder.

[stuiebluie]

I am having a similiar problem with zinc also. I have copied the OPEN GL render file to the zinc root with zinc.exe. I have updated my list and can see all the games but when i select them it just goes away to a black screen with a blue menu bar for less than a second then goes back to Gameex.

[stuiebluie]

slight update, well more info. Some games flash to black then back (The blue menu bar has white text saying GAMEEX|PLAYING HYPER ATHLETE etc)

Other games you can here the sound and can insert coins and start playing but the screen is blanj. I am using an NVIDIA card on an arcade monitor running res at 640 x 480 but i assume my problem must be a graphics one.

[headkaze]

Have you tried using the D3D renderer instead of OpenGL? It's in the Wind3d directory of the link I gave above.

[stuiebluie]

Cheers Headkaze, just changed to D3D and some games that just had sound now work, other games start to initialize and then return to Gameex but i'm getting somewhere.

Does anyone know if I need any other plugins to assist.

[stuiebluie]

Gonchal,

Im all sorted with Zinc now and its fairly bad!!!!

didnt have the problem with the render message so cant help specifically but I downloaded Zincgui (difficult to find but type zincgui into google and keep checking the results and eventually youll find a link) use this without gameex to configure all your renders etc then when its working you have to copy and rename the config and renderer and controller config files that Zincgui uses from the zincgui subfolders to the zinc root. If you go in "help - about" when in Zincgui this tells you which cfg files in zincgui relate the ones zinc.exe uses.

then its just a case of adding the location of the config, renderer and controller cfgs to the gamex configuration options /advanced mame settings / zinc options.

Im not at my home pc now so cant tell you specifically but hopefully this will pint you in the right direction and if you have any further queries ill try to answer when i get home.

[headkaze]

Here is my renderer.cfg if it's of any help

; ogl/d3d renderer settings

XSize 	 = 1280; Window/fullscreen X size
YSize 	 = 1024; Window/fullscreen Y size
FullScreen  = 1   ; Fullscreen mode: 0/1
ColorDepth  = 32   ; Fullscreen color depth: 16/32
ScanLines  = 0   ; Scanlines: 0=none, 1=black, 2=bright
Filtering  = 0   ; Texture filtering: 0-3 (filtering causes glitches!)
Blending  = 2 ; Enhanced color blend: ogl: 0/1; D3D: 0-2
Dithering  = 0 ; Dithering: 0/1 (only needed in 16 bit color depths)
ShowFPS 	 = 0 ; FPS display on startup: 0/1
FrameLimitation 	 = 1 ; Frame limit: 0/1
FrameSkipping  = 0 ; Frame skip: 0/1
FramerateDetection	= 1 ; Auto framerate detection: 0/1
FramerateManual  = 100 ; Manual framerate: 0-1000
TextureType  = 3 ; Textures: 0=card's default, 1=4 bit, 2=5bit, 3=8bit
TextureCaching          = 2    ; Caching type: 0-3, def=2, mode 3 is not available on most cards
EnableKeys              = 1    ; Enable renderer keys: 0/1, def=1 (enables keys for the fps menu/pause)
FastExcel               = 0    ; Speed hack for SF 'excel' modes. Will cause glitches if enabled!

[emphatic]

This is cool. Just tried it and got it to work thanks to this thread. Is there any way of controlling the aspect ratio on the video? Vertical games (Brave Blade) looks better if not stretched across the screen like that.

Emph

[gonchal2004]

At this time the only problem i have is that in some games the music is not runnig. Anyone knows why?

[emphatic]

*Bump*. Does anyone know how to get the proper Aspect Ratio in vertical games such as Brave Blade? I get black borders on both sides of the game screen, but the bars aren't wide enough so the game is still stretched horizontally.

Help me out!

Emph

[headkaze]

Have you tried adjusting the horizontal on your monitor. Perhaps it's using a resolution on your monitor that has not been set properly yet. Just an idea.

[emphatic]

I have not tried that. Although, all MAME games look "proper", so it feels like that shouldn't be necessary.

Emph

[jedah]

Emph,

Did you manage to get the Brave Blade problem sorted. I have got Zinc working fantastically well (including Tekken 3 at 57-60fps!). But Brave blade is still stretched. I noticed that you posted something similar on the Zinc boards. They seemed to blame it on the frontend. Do you or anyone else have any solutions for this.

Thanks in Advance

J.

[night]

At this time the only problem i have is that in some games the music is not runnig. Anyone knows why?

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

not all zinc games do have music/sound emulated yet

[emphatic]

jedah: Not yet, no. And I haven't tried adjusting my monitor.

Emph

[jedah]

Ok no worries. Thankyou anyway.

Has anyone else got this problem. Tom do you think it is the frontend stretching the image.

J.

[emphatic]

Ok no worries. Thankyou anyway.

Has anyone else got this problem. Tom do you think it is the frontend stretching the image.

J.

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

I can confirm that this is not a GameEx issue. Try running Zinc outside of GameEx with Brave Blade and you will get the same horrible stretching.

Emph

[TX_TRINITY]

Its worth using ZincFE front end to config your zinc install etc and I had to use the directx plugin since the openGL plugins didn't like switching out of Gamex too well.