Null DC / CCS64 Setup Advice

**kingb33** · April 30, 2008

Before I go nuts and post all the things that didnt go right when trying to set these up :rolleyes:

Can anyone recommend any good configs or tutorials for NullDC and CCS64? (i dont like using Chankast becuz of the mounting / DaemonTools)

Thanks!

**Brian Hoffman** · April 30, 2008

NullDC

http://www.gameex.info/forums/index.php?s=...ost&p=30527

Read the post no need to follow the link in the post.

Youll need to edit the Nulldc.cfg according to my instruction and use the command I posted at the bottom.

EDIT: I guess I have no life as I have set all these up...

**kingb33** · May 1, 2008

NullDC
http://www.gameex.info/forums/index.php?s=...ost&p=30527
Read the post no need to follow the link in the post.
Youll need to edit the Nulldc.cfg according to my instruction and use the command I posted at the bottom.
EDIT: I guess I have no life as I have set all these up...

I saw the post u referred to.....................

GETTING NULL DC to LAUCH VIA GAMEEX commandline

Find the Nulldc.cfg in the INSTALL DIR. look for these tags

[imageReader]

DefaultImage=

PatchRegion=0

LoadDefaultImage=1

[nullDC]

Dynarec.Enabled=1

Dynarec.DoConstantPropagation=1

Dynarec.UnderclockFpu=0

Dreamcast.Cable=3

Dreamcast.RTC=1543276800

Emulator.AutoStart=1

[drkpvr]

Emulation.AlphaSortMode=1

Emulation.PaletteMode=1

Emulation.ModVolMode=1

OSD.ShowFPS=0

OSD.ShowStats=0

Fullscreen.Enabled=1

Fullscreen.Res_X=640

Fullscreen.Res_Y=480

Fullscreen.Refresh_Rate=60

Enhancements.MultiSampleCount=0

Enhancements.MultiSampleQuality=0

Enhancements.AspectRatioMode=1

NOW SAVE THE NULLDC CONFIG AND GO INTO THE GAMEEX CONFIG

(in gameex config)Command=nulldc_100b1_6.exe -config ImageReader:DefaultImage="[rompath]/[romfile]"

-------I'm alittle confused what he wants me to do based on the way he worded it......does he want me to "change" my null DC config to make sure it matches what he has?

Also what will be the workaround for quitting NullDC after you are done playing a game in via GameEx? There is no exit option in that Emulator other than Alt-F4 to quit the emulator....is that what you have to do?

**Brian Hoffman** · May 1, 2008

I saw the post u referred to.....................
GETTING NULL DC to LAUCH VIA GAMEEX commandline
Find the Nulldc.cfg in the INSTALL DIR. look for these tags
[imageReader]
DefaultImage=
PatchRegion=0
LoadDefaultImage=1
[nullDC]
Dynarec.Enabled=1
Dynarec.DoConstantPropagation=1
Dynarec.UnderclockFpu=0
Dreamcast.Cable=3
Dreamcast.RTC=1543276800
Emulator.AutoStart=1
[drkpvr]
Emulation.AlphaSortMode=1
Emulation.PaletteMode=1
Emulation.ModVolMode=1
OSD.ShowFPS=0
OSD.ShowStats=0
Fullscreen.Enabled=1
Fullscreen.Res_X=640
Fullscreen.Res_Y=480
Fullscreen.Refresh_Rate=60
Enhancements.MultiSampleCount=0
Enhancements.MultiSampleQuality=0
Enhancements.AspectRatioMode=1
NOW SAVE THE NULLDC CONFIG AND GO INTO THE GAMEEX CONFIG
(in gameex config)Command=nulldc_100b1_6.exe -config ImageReader:DefaultImage="[rompath]/[romfile]"
-------I'm alittle confused what he wants me to do based on the way he worded it......does he want me to "change" my null DC config to make sure it matches what he has?
Also what will be the workaround for quitting NullDC after you are done playing a game in via GameEx? There is no exit option in that Emulator other than Alt-F4 to quit the emulator....is that what you have to do?

If you mean HE as in ME yes... I want you to change your Nulldc.cfg to match mine. It basicly says to launch NullDC ,Automount the default image,Autostart emulation and go full screen.

The command line is what tells the config what the default image is.

So in Gameex use the command I gave.

Fill out the working path and rompath accordingly

you rom filter should be the format your Images are in eg...CDI

Edit: Check your PM's

**kingb33** · May 1, 2008

If you mean HE as in ME yes... I want you to change your Nulldc.cfg to match mine. It basicly says to launch NullDC ,Automount the default image,Autostart emulation and go full screen.
The command line is what tells the config what the default image is.
So in Gameex use the command I gave.
Fill out the working path and rompath accordingly
you rom filter should be the format your Images are in eg...CDI
Edit: Check your PM's

Hi Brian sry i missed you Pm's....

WOW i found a pretty crazy thing.......i got it to work....BUT

it erases my nullDc.cfg everytime!!!! ?? how is that possible? right now my nullDC .cfg file is completely blank after running it.....isnt that a but crazy?

it also "reset" my NullDc like i never used it before.....i had to set the date gain and all that......does it have anything to do with using XPadder? its the only way to play NullDc using a gamepad....

**Brian Hoffman** · May 1, 2008

Hi Brian sry i missed you Pm's....
WOW i found a pretty crazy thing.......i got it to work....BUT
it erases my nullDc.cfg everytime!!!! ?? how is that possible? right now my nullDC .cfg file is completely blank after running it.....isnt that a but crazy?
it also "reset" my NullDc like i never used it before.....i had to set the date gain and all that......does it have anything to do with using XPadder? its the only way to play NullDc using a gamepad....

You MAY have a corrupted DCFLASH... Thats about as far as I can get into that here.

Chankast is famous for corrupting bios

**kingb33** · May 1, 2008

You MAY have a corrupted DCFLASH... Thats about as far as I can get into that here.
Chankast is famous for corrupting bios

it happend again.....my nullDc config is empty again....

im pretty sure it has to do with my VMU's......

it all went wrong after i put my VMU in the folder u created for me and ran it

after that it didnt work anymore

**kingb33** · May 1, 2008

i figured it out....so all good

hey i forgot how totally terrible 2D games look in NullDC........

is their a way to enhance they way 2d games look? maybe add scanlines or something?

**greatflash** · May 1, 2008

Before I go nuts and post all the things that didnt go right when trying to set these up
Can anyone recommend any good configs or tutorials for NullDC and CCS64? (i dont like using Chankast becuz of the mounting / DaemonTools)
Thanks!

you can find a ccs64 config here http://www.gameex.info/forums/index.php?sh...ost&p=38110

**kingb33** · May 2, 2008

you can find a ccs64 config here http://www.gameex.info/forums/index.php?sh...ost&p=38110

hi greatflash.....i got this to work kinda....

when it launches it can hear the intro to the game in the background playing.........but my screen is all black. i can see my windows start logo icon in bottom left corner of the screen though......and the rest of the screen is totally black.

any ideas on this?

and yes CCS works fine outside gameex....

thanks!!

**Brian Hoffman** · May 2, 2008

hi greatflash.....i got this to work kinda....
when it launches it can hear the intro to the game in the background playing.........but my screen is all black. i can see my windows start logo icon in bottom left corner of the screen though......and the rest of the screen is totally black.
any ideas on this?
and yes CCS works fine outside gameex....
thanks!!

Is showdesktop set to TRUE?

**kingb33** · May 2, 2008

Is showdesktop set to TRUE?

heya Brian....no i have it set to "No"

the same goes for my futurepinball setup.....i can hear FP playing it in the background but i get a total blackscreen with the little round vista windows logo in the bottom left hand corner

here 's my config

[Emulator_10]

Enabled=True

STARTPAGENAME=Commodore 64

TITLETEXT=Commodore 64 Games

StartPageLogo=

ROMFilter=*.zip

RomsInFolders=True

RomPath=C:\Program Files\GameBase\games

SnapPath=C:\Program Files\GameBase\videos

WorkingPath=C:\Program Files\GameBase\Emulator\CCS64 3.5

MapKeys=False

WaitBeforeKeys=

SendKeys=

ReplaceDash=False

ReplaceUnder=True

Capitals=True

RemoveBrackets=True

ShowDesktop=False

Debug=False

MAPFile=

AlsoLaunch=

Command=runzip.cmd "[ROMPath]\[RomFile]"

OLDatZip=

TitlePath=

BoxPath=

LaunchBefore=

LaunchAfter=

CartPath=

configFile=[Mapping Off] Exit (ALT+F4)

ExcludedFiles=

CustomBackground=

PlayMusic=

PCGame=

DATABASE=

DumbyValue=

GamesIn7Zips=False

PlayInScreenSaver=False

ManualPath=

ControlPanelPath=

InstructionsPath=

DontShowInfo=

PlaySelectionMusic=

SelectionMusicFolder=

ShowMostPlayed=

RandomMostPlayed=

CDCheck=

CDCheckFile=

lastgame=

**Brian Hoffman** · May 2, 2008

For both emus set showdesktop to true and try again

**kingb33** · May 2, 2008

For both emus set showdesktop to true and try again

yeah that worked Brian...weird the config had it set to the "No'

but another problem....when CCS64 launches it in a little Window....? and the sound is mega choppy....

But if i launch CCS64 outside GameEx it's fullscreen and there is no choppy sound....

**kingb33** · May 2, 2008

yeah that worked Brian...weird the config had it set to the "No'
but another problem....when CCS64 launches it in a little Window....? and the sound is mega choppy....
But if i launch CCS64 outside GameEx it's fullscreen and there is no choppy sound....

oh and also....it runs like 10FPS for some reason too......

**greatflash** · May 2, 2008

oh and also....it runs like 10FPS for some reason too......

You don't have to have set desktop to true! I have it turned of..

All you need to do is run the ccs emulator on its own (without gameex). When loaded press ALT+V and set the video mode to a full screen mode i.e. 640x480. Set the refresh to 60 (games run slightly faster but much smoother). Change any other options you want and then press ALT+F4 to quit...

Now run it in gameex and all will be fine. I have show desktop off as it gives a cleaner entry to the emulator.

Hope that helps!

**kingb33** · May 2, 2008

You don't have to have set desktop to true! I have it turned of..
All you need to do is run the ccs emulator on its own (without gameex). When loaded press ALT+V and set the video mode to a full screen mode i.e. 640x480. Set the refresh to 60 (games run slightly faster but much smoother). Change any other options you want and then press ALT+F4 to quit...
Now run it in gameex and all will be fine. I have show desktop off as it gives a cleaner entry to the emulator.
Hope that helps!

hi greatflash

yes i already did all that....but it still launches into a window if i launch it from gameEX and it runs like 10FPS......

outside of gameex is launches totally perfect no problems at all

also if i show desktop "off" my screen is completely blank when i launch it

if i turn it on i can see it fine......

i think thats where my problem may lie?.....the fact maybe i have to have desktop "on" is causing my CCS64 to run in a window launched from Gamex?

**bkenobi** · May 2, 2008

You have it backwards. The fact that it's running in a window is why GameEx must have show desktop on. If you get it running in full screen, you won't need show desktop on.

**greatflash** · May 2, 2008

hi greatflash
yes i already did all that....but it still launches into a window if i launch it from gameEX and it runs like 10FPS......
outside of gameex is launches totally perfect no problems at all
also if i show desktop "off" my screen is completely blank when i launch it
if i turn it on i can see it fine......
i think thats where my problem may lie?.....the fact maybe i have to have desktop "on" is causing my CCS64 to run in a window launched from Gamex?

Ok, here goes...

1) Please download the updated config files from here UPDATE

2) Put c64.rar contents in your ccs emulator folder as before.

3) Run CCS.exe from windows (not gameex) and put into a non-window mode - then PRESS RETURN to set it (while on the screen resolution line)

3) Set ccs refresh to 60 hz

4) ALT-F4

5) do-not re-enter ccs unless from gameex (its better that way )

6) check shoelaces are tied (don't want you tripping)

7) run gameex and hope all goes well this time..

If ccs is running full screen, the desktop setting in gameex really does not matter..

good luck

**kingb33** · May 2, 2008

Ok, here goes...
1) Please download the updated config files from here UPDATE
2) Put c64.rar contents in your ccs emulator folder as before.
3) Run CCS.exe from windows (not gameex) and put into a non-window mode - then PRESS RETURN to set it (while on the screen resolution line)
3) Set ccs refresh to 60 hz
4) ALT-F4
5) do-not re-enter ccs unless from gameex (its better that way )
6) check shoelaces are tied (don't want you tripping)
7) run gameex and hope all goes well this time..
If ccs is running full screen, the desktop setting in gameex really does not matter..
good luck

hey greatflash....ill try it all again when i get home -im pretty 100% sure ive done what you've said like 2 times....but we'll see :unsure:

like i said i have the same exact problem with Future pinball, if i apply show desktop to "no" i can hear the emulator in the background but the screen is all black....if i go back in the advanced config and apply it to "yes" i can see it but it's in a window..... outside of gameex my Future pinabll is set to run fullscreen

**Brian Hoffman** · May 2, 2008

hey greatflash....ill try it all again when i get home -im pretty 100% sure ive done what you've said like 2 times....but we'll see
like i said i have the same exact problem with Future pinball, if i apply show desktop to "no" i can hear the emulator in the background but the screen is all black....if i go back in the advanced config and apply it to "yes" i can see it but it's in a window..... outside of gameex my Future pinabll is set to run fullscreen

try changing the way future pinball renders video.. eg direct 3d / open gl etc...

EDIT: what happens when you use RUNLASTGAME.bat?

**greatflash** · May 2, 2008

hey greatflash....ill try it all again when i get home -im pretty 100% sure ive done what you've said like 2 times....but we'll see
like i said i have the same exact problem with Future pinball, if i apply show desktop to "no" i can hear the emulator in the background but the screen is all black....if i go back in the advanced config and apply it to "yes" i can see it but it's in a window..... outside of gameex my Future pinabll is set to run fullscreen

Let me know - am sure we can sort it out.

Send me your ccs config file if any probs!

**kingb33** · May 2, 2008

ill try all that when i get home guys....let u guys know

just FYI

also im not sure if u r aware but ever since the new version of future pinball came out it runs like total crap......i used to be able to run it flawlessly until i upgraded

if u check their boards u can see all the posts that peeps are having with the latest build

so if u havent upgraded.....dont!!

**kingb33** · May 3, 2008

try changing the way future pinball renders video.. eg direct 3d / open gl etc...
EDIT: what happens when you use RUNLASTGAME.bat?

hi brian....i dont see a runlastgame.bat in my FP folder? is it there?

**fRequEnCy** · May 3, 2008

hi brian....i dont see a runlastgame.bat in my FP folder? is it there?

It's in the GameEx\DATA directory named runitgame.bat

Or

Just click:

1. Start

2. All Programs

3. GameEx

4. Run Last Game

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