MAME Roms

**denoiser** · April 12, 2008

Hi ,

I setup the MAME 32 Emu in Gamex by downloading and setup with the Configuration Wizard.

After pointing to all my relevant path, I start Gameex. When I choose MAME it takes a while to create the gamelists. But some games in the list wonÂ´t start from Gameex. When I try to start the game, gameex will return to the gamelist without starting MAME. It happened not to all games.

I think the Roms are not bad, when I start them from the MAME32 Windows GUI all works fine.

Does anyone know the solution or maybe have some hints what to do ?

Best Regards, Denoiser

**bkenobi** · April 12, 2008

In order to figure this out, there's a couple things you need to do. First, if you want help from this forum, you must pretty much always post you log containing the problem (the whole log file). Second, since this is a problem with a game launching and is unlikely a problem with GameEx, you will want to run the "Run Last Game.bat" file in the GameEx Start menu folder. When you run it, it will not work (presumably), but that's ok. What you need to do is edit this file and add "PAUSE" as a new line. Run it again and see what the error is. If you figure out the error (which is 99% chance a command line argument problem), we can get it going.

Btw, if you are using GameEx, you really don't need the MAME32 front end, so I suggest using vanilla MAME instead. MAME32 will work, but most people use the standard version which is a little easier to work with from the command line.

**denoiser** · April 14, 2008

In order to figure this out, there's a couple things you need to do. First, if you want help from this forum, you must pretty much always post you log containing the problem (the whole log file). Second, since this is a problem with a game launching and is unlikely a problem with GameEx, you will want to run the "Run Last Game.bat" file in the GameEx Start menu folder. When you run it, it will not work (presumably), but that's ok. What you need to do is edit this file and add "PAUSE" as a new line. Run it again and see what the error is. If you figure out the error (which is 99% chance a command line argument problem), we can get it going.
Btw, if you are using GameEx, you really don't need the MAME32 front end, so I suggest using vanilla MAME instead. MAME32 will work, but most people use the standard version which is a little easier to work with from the command line.

Thank you for your reply. I thought setting up Mame is much easier.

I use the Mame Version v0.109 and most of the games works fine without gameex.

I know there are diffenrent versions of mame, but i thought that the latest mame release will guarantee that more games works than a earlier release of mame. What do you mean with Vanilla Mame ? Is is an official Mame Version.

Where can I get it from, to test this with my Roms ?

For the first Time I used the downloaded Mame Versions of the Gamex Setup Wizard, to test how many roms work. When I try the Advance MAME , I get the error message " unknown command line option rompath " by every game :-(

btw, I post my log file , maybe the solution is simple for experts like you.

best regards, denoiser

log file :

21:13:57.4 14.04.2008: GameEx: Version 9.19: Starting Log

21:13:57.4 14.04.2008: Operating System Platform: Win32NT

21:13:57.4 14.04.2008: Operating System Name: Windows XP

21:13:57.4 14.04.2008: Operating System Version: 5.1.2600

21:13:57.5 14.04.2008: Checking for versions of .net Framework installed

21:13:57.5 14.04.2008: .net Framework 1.1 Installed

21:13:57.5 14.04.2008: .net Framework 2.0 Installed

21:13:57.5 14.04.2008: Intel® Pentium® 4 CPU 2.53GHz, 511MB

21:13:57.5 14.04.2008: 2,54Ghz

21:13:57.6 14.04.2008: Running Randomize()

21:13:57.6 14.04.2008: Loading PlugIns

21:13:57.6 14.04.2008: Checking for applications to Launch On Startup

21:13:57.6 14.04.2008: Running Misc startup tasks

21:13:57.6 14.04.2008: Setting Menu types

21:13:57.6 14.04.2008: Opening Configuration File

21:13:57.6 14.04.2008: Getting Configuration Values

21:13:57.6 14.04.2008: Using Theme: Default - Media Center

21:13:57.6 14.04.2008: Checking for alternate Image Directory for Theme: Default - Media Center

21:13:57.7 14.04.2008: Initialising Video/MNG DLL's

21:13:57.8 14.04.2008: Is Media Center running?

21:13:57.8 14.04.2008: Checking/Creating LCD Registry values

21:13:57.8 14.04.2008: Check Media Center Exit/Start Mode

21:13:57.8 14.04.2008: Media Center Mode 2

21:13:57.8 14.04.2008: Video previews on. Warning: Only recommended on modern systems

21:13:57.8 14.04.2008: Snap Delay set to: 2

21:13:57.8 14.04.2008: Get other settings

21:13:57.8 14.04.2008: Reading MAME hall of fame

21:13:58.0 14.04.2008: Set: Find emulator artwork on best match basis

21:13:58.0 14.04.2008: Start work for Form

21:13:58.0 14.04.2008: Getting Original Screen Size

21:13:58.0 14.04.2008: Opening Database Connection

21:13:59.0 14.04.2008: Initializing Component

21:13:59.1 14.04.2008: Retrieving resolution setting

21:13:59.1 14.04.2008: Initialising Windows Media Player Component

21:13:59.1 14.04.2008: MAME Path is: C:\Emulators\Mame32

21:13:59.1 14.04.2008: MAME EXE file is: Mame32.exe

21:13:59.1 14.04.2008: ROM Path is: C:\mame082b\roms

21:13:59.1 14.04.2008: Catver.ini is located at: C:\Programme\GameEx\DATA\catver.ini

21:13:59.1 14.04.2008: controls.ini is located at: C:\Programme\GameEx\data\controls.ini

21:13:59.1 14.04.2008: History.dat is located at: C:\Programme\GameEx\DATA\history.dat

21:13:59.1 14.04.2008: nplayers.ini is located at: C:\Programme\GameEx\DATA\nplayers.ini

21:13:59.1 14.04.2008: MAMEinfo.dat is located at: C:\Programme\GameEx\DATA\mameinfo.dat

21:13:59.1 14.04.2008: Loading Controls.ini map file

21:13:59.2 14.04.2008: Snap Path is: C:\Emulators\Mame32\snap

21:13:59.2 14.04.2008: AVI Snap Path is: C:\Emulators\Mame32\avisnap

21:13:59.2 14.04.2008: Flyer Path is: C:\Emulators\Mame32\flyers

21:13:59.2 14.04.2008: Cabinet Path is: C:\Emulators\Mame32\cabinets

21:13:59.2 14.04.2008: Title Path is: C:\Emulators\Mame32\titles

21:13:59.2 14.04.2008: PCB Path: Not Found

21:13:59.2 14.04.2008: Artwork Preview Path: Not Found

21:13:59.2 14.04.2008: Panel Path is: C:\Emulators\Mame32\cpanel

21:13:59.2 14.04.2008: Manual Path: Not Found

21:13:59.2 14.04.2008: Icon Path is: C:\Emulators\Mame32\icons

21:13:59.2 14.04.2008: Marquee Path is: C:\Emulators\Mame32\marquees

21:13:59.2 14.04.2008: Loading Custom Emulators

21:13:59.2 14.04.2008: Loading Emulator 1: Atari 2600

21:13:59.3 14.04.2008: Loading Emulator 2: Atari 5200

21:13:59.4 14.04.2008: Loading Emulator 3: Atari 7800

21:13:59.4 14.04.2008: Loading Emulator 4: Atari Lynx

21:13:59.5 14.04.2008: Loading Emulator 5: Atari Jaguar (Project Tempest)

21:13:59.6 14.04.2008: Loading Emulator 6: Atari ST

21:13:59.7 14.04.2008: Loading Emulator 7: Coleco Vision

21:13:59.7 14.04.2008: Loading Emulator 8: Intellivision

21:13:59.8 14.04.2008: Loading Emulator 9: Nintendo SNES

21:13:59.9 14.04.2008: Loading Emulator 10: Nintendo Entertainment System

21:13:59.9 14.04.2008: Loading Emulator 11: Commodore Amiga Games (Gamebase V 1.5)

21:14:00.0 14.04.2008: Loading Emulator 12: Commodore C64

21:14:00.1 14.04.2008: Loading Emulator 13: Commodore VIC20

21:14:00.2 14.04.2008: Loading Emulator 14: Nintendo GameBoy

21:14:00.2 14.04.2008: Loading Emulator 15: Nintendo GameBoy Color

21:14:00.3 14.04.2008: Loading Emulator 16: Nintendo GameBoy Advance

21:14:00.4 14.04.2008: Loading Emulator 17: Sega Master System

21:14:00.5 14.04.2008: Loading Emulator 18: Sega Mega Drive

21:14:00.6 14.04.2008: Loading Emulator 19: Sega Game Gear

21:14:00.6 14.04.2008: Loading Emulator 20: Sony Playstation

21:14:00.7 14.04.2008: Loading Emulator 21: Nintendo N64

21:14:00.8 14.04.2008: Loading Emulator 23: [PC] Commodore C64 (WinVice)

21:14:00.9 14.04.2008: Loading Emulator 24: Commodore Amiga Public Domain Games

21:14:00.9 14.04.2008: Loading Emulator 25: Commodore Amiga Game Compilations

21:14:01.0 14.04.2008: Loading Emulator 26: Commodore Amiga - Music Files

21:14:01.4 14.04.2008: Using 2D Animations

21:14:01.4 14.04.2008: Using General Font: Trebuchet MS

21:14:01.4 14.04.2008: Using Title Font: Trebuchet MS

21:14:01.4 14.04.2008: Attempting to load game list

21:14:01.5 14.04.2008: Initialising DirectDraw

21:14:01.6 14.04.2008: Creating DirectDraw Device

21:14:01.6 14.04.2008: Using Device: PrimÃ¤rer Anzeigetreiber

21:14:02.1 14.04.2008: 59mb video memory available

21:14:02.1 14.04.2008: Creating DirectDraw Surfaces

21:14:02.1 14.04.2008: Creating Primary Surface - Windowed Mode

21:14:02.1 14.04.2008: Creating Back Buffer

21:14:02.1 14.04.2008: Loading graphic Surfaces

21:14:02.1 14.04.2008: Display is running at: 1280x1024 32bit color, 75hz

21:14:02.2 14.04.2008: Creating Surfaces Misc and Dialogs

21:14:02.4 14.04.2008: Creating Surfaces Volume

21:14:02.4 14.04.2008: Creating Surfaces Arrows

21:14:02.4 14.04.2008: Creating Surfaces GameEXlogo Text

21:14:02.4 14.04.2008: Creating Surfaces Toolbar

21:14:02.4 14.04.2008: Creating Surfaces Backgrounds

21:14:02.5 14.04.2008: Creating Surfaces Toolbar Controls

21:14:02.5 14.04.2008: Creating Surfaces GameEx Logo

21:14:02.5 14.04.2008: Creating Surface Unselected

21:14:02.6 14.04.2008: Creating Surfaces Home & Exit

21:14:02.6 14.04.2008: Creating Surfaces Snaps

21:14:02.6 14.04.2008: Creating Surfaces Menu and List Bars

21:14:02.7 14.04.2008: Creating Fonts

21:14:02.7 14.04.2008: Creating Game Font

21:14:02.8 14.04.2008: Creating Menu Font

21:14:02.9 14.04.2008: Restoring Menu Font From Cache

21:14:02.9 14.04.2008: Creating Font Black

21:14:03.1 14.04.2008: Creating Font Black Small

21:14:03.2 14.04.2008: Creating Game Font Faded

21:14:03.3 14.04.2008: Creating Title Font

21:14:03.3 14.04.2008: Restoring Title Font From Cache

21:14:03.4 14.04.2008: Fonts Created Succesfully

21:14:03.4 14.04.2008: 25mb video memory left available

21:14:03.4 14.04.2008: Creating instance of global keyboard hook

21:14:26.8 14.04.2008: Text/Language: German

21:14:26.8 14.04.2008: Applying Language/Text

21:14:27.0 14.04.2008: Initialising Bass Audio Library

21:14:27.4 14.04.2008: Running: Mame32.exe -help

21:14:27.4 14.04.2008: Running: C: C:\Emulators\Mame32\Mame32.exe -help > C:\Emulators\Mame32\help.txt

21:14:28.1 14.04.2008:

21:14:28.1 14.04.2008: Detected MAME Version as: 0.109

21:14:28.1 14.04.2008:

21:14:28.1 14.04.2008: Now Outputing Mame32.exe - Help

21:14:28.1 14.04.2008:

21:14:28.1 14.04.2008: --BEGIN--

21:14:28.1 14.04.2008: M.A.M.E. v0.109 (Oct 1 2006) - Multiple Arcade Machine Emulator

21:14:28.1 14.04.2008:

21:14:28.1 14.04.2008: MAME is an emulator: it reproduces, more or less faithfully, the behaviour of

21:14:28.1 14.04.2008: several arcade machines. But hardware is useless without software, so an image

21:14:28.1 14.04.2008: of the ROMs which run on that hardware is required. Such ROMs, like any other

21:14:28.1 14.04.2008: commercial software, are copyrighted material and it is therefore illegal to

21:14:28.2 14.04.2008: use them if you don't own the original arcade machine. Needless to say, ROMs

21:14:28.2 14.04.2008: are not distributed together with MAME. Distribution of MAME together with ROM

21:14:28.2 14.04.2008: images is a violation of copyright law and should be promptly reported to the

21:14:28.2 14.04.2008: authors so that appropriate legal action can be taken.

21:14:28.2 14.04.2008:

21:14:28.2 14.04.2008: Usage: MAME gamename [options]

21:14:28.2 14.04.2008:

21:14:28.2 14.04.2008: MAME -showusage for a brief list of options

21:14:28.2 14.04.2008: MAME -showconfig for a list of configuration options

21:14:28.2 14.04.2008: MAME -createconfig to create a mame.ini

21:14:28.2 14.04.2008:

21:14:28.2 14.04.2008: For usage instructions, please consult the file windows.txt

21:14:28.2 14.04.2008:

21:14:28.2 14.04.2008: --END--

21:14:28.2 14.04.2008:

21:14:28.2 14.04.2008: MAME CMD options:

21:14:28.2 14.04.2008: Loading last used Game List

21:14:28.2 14.04.2008: Setting Music Volume

21:14:28.2 14.04.2008: Creating DirectSound Device

21:14:28.2 14.04.2008: Trying: PrimÃ¤rer Soundtreiber

21:14:28.2 14.04.2008: Loading Sound Files

21:14:28.3 14.04.2008: DirectSound Device Created Successfully

21:14:28.3 14.04.2008: Creating ICONS

21:14:28.4 14.04.2008: Restoring Cached ICONS from File

21:14:28.5 14.04.2008: Initialising DirectInput for Gamepad support

21:14:28.5 14.04.2008: Using Device XUSB Gamepad (Controller)

21:14:28.6 14.04.2008: Playing intro sound file

21:14:28.6 14.04.2008: Initializing MCE Remote

21:14:28.6 14.04.2008: Initialization OK! Starting GameEx!

21:14:28.6 14.04.2008: Testing Main Loop Once: Processing Frame

21:14:29.2 14.04.2008: Testing Main Loop Once: Main Loop ran successfully

21:14:44.2 14.04.2008: Writing Game List to disk

21:14:44.2 14.04.2008: Updating MAME Game List

21:14:44.2 14.04.2008: Running: C: C:\Emulators\Mame32\Mame32.exe -listxml > C:\Emulators\Mame32\listinfo.dat

21:15:17.4 14.04.2008: Opening Listinfo.dat

21:15:18.9 14.04.2008: Reading ListInfo.dat

21:15:55.3 14.04.2008: Reading ListInfo.dat - DONE

21:15:55.3 14.04.2008: Running: C: C:\Emulators\Mame32\Mame32.exe -verifysets -rompath "C:\mame082b\roms" > C:\Emulators\Mame32\verify.dat

21:17:54.6 14.04.2008: Opening Verify.dat

21:17:55.6 14.04.2008: Processing Verify.dat

21:17:56.0 14.04.2008: Processing ListInfo.dat

21:18:01.2 14.04.2008: Listinfo.dat Processing Complete

21:18:01.2 14.04.2008: Sorting MAME Game List

21:18:01.5 14.04.2008: Adding Catver.ini info to gamelist

21:18:26.1 14.04.2008: Writing MAME Game List To File

21:18:28.9 14.04.2008: Adding History.dat info to gamelist

21:18:43.9 14.04.2008: Adding Nplayers.ini info to gamelist

21:18:49.9 14.04.2008: Adding History.dat Series info to gamelist

21:19:55.4 14.04.2008: Adding MAMEInfo.dat info to gamelist

21:21:04.6 14.04.2008: Writing MAME Game List To File

21:21:13.5 14.04.2008: Updating Year List

21:21:13.5 14.04.2008: Updating Manufacturer List

21:21:13.6 14.04.2008: Updating Category List

21:21:13.6 14.04.2008: Updating Custom Folders

21:21:13.6 14.04.2008: Writing Year List To File

21:21:13.6 14.04.2008: Writing Manufacturer List To File

21:21:13.6 14.04.2008: Writing Category List To File

21:21:13.7 14.04.2008: Loading Game List

21:21:13.8 14.04.2008: Importing MAME32 Favorites

21:21:13.8 14.04.2008: Recreating ICONS

21:21:26.9 14.04.2008: Attract Mode Re-Enabled

21:25:03.1 14.04.2008: Running: cmd.exe /c C: C:\Emulators\Mame32\Mame32.exe 1942a -rompath C:\mame082b\roms -artwork -artwork_directory artworkgameex

21:28:24.6 14.04.2008: Running: cmd.exe /c C: C:\Emulators\Mame32\Mame32.exe 4in1 -rompath C:\mame082b\roms -artwork -artwork_directory artworkgameex

**Tempest** · April 14, 2008

Denoiser,

I would like to preface this with "I'm not the smartest person here..."

Vanilla mame is the term they like to use to refer to the command line version of mame (no GUI built in)

My first concern is that you are using Mame 109, but your rom path may indicate that your roms are for mame 0.82 (assuming that the folder name "mame082b\roms" is meaningful). I don't know if you are aware of this, but every version of mame has a matching romset. So if you are using Mame 109, your roms should be 109 as well. You can use a program like Clrmamepro to check and fix your roms. There is a tutorial on CMP here: http://www.mameworld.net/easyemu/

I would first try turning off "verify roms" in "advanced mame configuration" and see if that helps your games run.

Also, I think you may be confused about "advancemame". Advancemame is another version of mame (a different emulator) if you do not have the "advancemame emulator" you will want to turn "use AdvanceMame" to NO.

The confusion comes in, because for the most part, the section in gameex configuration called "advanced Mame" is for use with Mame32, and "vanilla" Mame (Except the 4 Advancemame lines) :blink:

I hope that makes sense, because it can be confusing.

Edit: you should also set "allow imperfect roms" to yes.

**bkenobi** · April 14, 2008

Sorry, I should clarify my references:

"vanilla" MAME = The official release by the MAMEdev team

MAMEUI = Formerly known as MAME32

AdvanceMAME = Another version of MAME that was modified to improve output on TV's and arcade monitors

Analog MAME+ = A version of MAME specifically modified to work with analog controls (spinners, steering wheels, track balls, light guns). Most of the code from this project has been incorporated into the "vanilla" MAME code (and thus everything else that uses it's source), so the project has essentially died off.

There are countless other versions out there, but these are the main ones people around here talk about. Also, while you are not required to update your roms with each release, if a rom does get updated/redumped, it will no longer work. It is ALWAYS best to run the same version of MAME as your roms.

**denoiser** · April 17, 2008

Sorry, I should clarify my references:
"vanilla" MAME = The official release by the MAMEdev team
MAMEUI = Formerly known as MAME32
AdvanceMAME = Another version of MAME that was modified to improve output on TV's and arcade monitors
Analog MAME+ = A version of MAME specifically modified to work with analog controls (spinners, steering wheels, track balls, light guns). Most of the code from this project has been incorporated into the "vanilla" MAME code (and thus everything else that uses it's source), so the project has essentially died off.
There are countless other versions out there, but these are the main ones people around here talk about. Also, while you are not required to update your roms with each release, if a rom does get updated/redumped, it will no longer work. It is ALWAYS best to run the same version of MAME as your roms.

Hi , I like to say thanks for all the good Advice.

I tried all your hints, but I canÂ´t figure out whatÂ´s wrong. To Remember, all the Games works fine at Mame32. I thought forthcoming Releases of Mame should be run more games.

I never thought that every Mame Version needs the matching rom set.

Tempest :

I only copied my mame roms folder in the mame 082b Directory to try whats the reason when some Roms donÂ´t want to start from Gameex. It does not mean, that they belong to this Mame Version. I found my Mame Rom Set ( about 5 GB, surely not all games :-) in the www and I own my Set for 4 years . Since I found the nice tool gameex for all my Emus I used my Mame roms with Mame 32 ( The one with the Windows GUI , to avoid typing all the horrible dos commands)

I turned of the option Verify Roms, and also set allow imperfect roms, but I get the same result. Some Games start and some other donÂ´t do this. I found the following Topic, and I think hereÂ´s exact the same Error, maybe we can solve the problem alltogether.

http://www.gameex.info/forums/index.php?showtopic=5351

Bkenobi :

How can I figure out which Rom Version I own , My Mame32 Directory has a subdirectory called roms. This folder contain all my games in zip format and many game subfolders.

btw : I like the actually Version of Mame32 , i mean this one that gameex downloads for itself when I use the setup Wizard, I think itÂ´s the Version 0.109. But I like to play all my games from gameex.

**Tempest** · April 17, 2008

In advanced mame settings, try setting "use bezel", to don't use bezels.

If this works, I want a really big show of appreciation - It's not for my ego, as much as for the other guys....

**Brian Hoffman** · April 17, 2008

In advanced mame settings, try setting "use bezel", to don't use bezels.
If this works, I want a really big show of appreciation - It's not for my ego, as much as for the other guys....

Do I smell a cut and paste here? Could be 2 for 2

**Tempest** · April 17, 2008

Do I smell a cut and paste here? Could be 2 for 2

Yep - I got a twofer!

I wish I could be more like me!

**bkenobi** · April 17, 2008

If your set is 4 years old and you are trying to run a current version of MAME (0.124a last I checked), then you *definitely* need to consider updating. Most roms are probably the same, but there are periodic redumps required to correct certain issues. I would guess that after 4 years, there's quite a few in that boat. Also, you won't have the newer games that you are trying to get working anyway since they didn't exist in your set. I think the current rom set is ~15GB, so yeah, your 5GB set is a little short...

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