ZiNc + opengl = blank screen

[Hunk_4TH]

Hunk_4th,

I've looked over alot of the Zinc threads, and here are my thoughts:

First let me warn you, I'm a long ways from knowing what I'm talking about, but hopefully this will inspire someone else.

Second this is just my opinion, and I could be way off.

1. Bad Idea for you to post in this thread, because he was having the black screen issue which appears to be common.

The standard answer for that is "don't use Open GL"

2. Your problem is different because you don't have zinc running in Gameex at all, no sound,nothing.

You get booted right out of Zinc, and back into Gameex.

3. I would say that maybe you are missing a file or something, but if it is running outside of Gameex, then probably not.

4. I think that there is something wrong with your Zinc Options

Your Zinc Options are: --renderer=.\renderer.znc.

Mine look like this:

C:\Emulators\zinc\ZiNc.exe --roms-directory=C:\Emulators\zinc\roms -- renderer=C:\Emulators\zinc\Plugins\Renderer_D3D.znc -- controller=C:\Emulators\zinc\Plugins\Controller_KB.znc

I think mine may be longer than necessary, but it works, so I'm not messing with it

I'm concerned about yours because:

1. Do you have a renederer.znc? The ones in my zinc file are renderer_D3D.znc, renderer_GL.znc, renderer_GL2.znc

2. You don't have the roms directory specified. It may not be required, what do I know?

From what I've read, it is not necessary to use the loader while running zinc as an addition to Mame, that is more for if you are setting up Zinc as a seperate emulator. Keep in mind that I do have mine set up with the loader, so my comments may not apply to you.

That's the biggest problem, I don't know what applies, because I barely got through zinc myself

Allright all you Gameex Gurus, am I right, or am I wrong?

Thanks for taking the time to reply. Hmm it is a little odd that my Zinc options are shorter than your's. I do have a renderer.zin the others are d3d_renderer.znc,glide_renderer.znc and ogl_renderer.znc I don't see the one's you listed perhaps thats the problem? everything else seems to run in GameEx from Mame to all my emulators I've got setup any ideas?

[Tempest]

Thanks for taking the time to reply. Hmm it is a little odd that my Zinc options are shorter than your's. I do have a renderer.zin the others are d3d_renderer.znc,glide_renderer.znc and ogl_renderer.znc I don't see the one's you listed perhaps thats the problem? everything else seems to run in GameEx from Mame to all my emulators I've got setup any ideas?

Yep:

1. Try --roms-directory=C:\Emulators\zinc\roms -- renderer=C:\Emulators\zinc\Plugins\renderer.znc

as your Zinc options, Change the Paths to match yours. Use the full path, not .\renderer.znc

2. Wait for somebody smarter than me!

If you get it going (so it doesn't just quit back to Gameex), I can try to help you more, but that's all I got for now, sorry!

[Hunk_4TH]

Tried all of that still a no go this is really weird Thanks for trying though! There has to be some way to fix this? For all I know its probably so simple that I've over looked.

[Tempest]

Tried all of that still a no go this is really weird Thanks for trying though! There has to be some way to fix this? For all I know its probably so simple that I've over looked.

I was really hoping that somebody would jump in here.

Questions:

How do you have zinc running outside of Gameex? (Command line,Zinc GUI,etc.)

How are you trying to set up zinc in Gameex? (Mame advanced options, seperate emulator)

There is a good guide to zinc here:

http://www.mameworld.net/easyemu/zincguide.htm

[Hunk_4TH]

Same here, To be run Zinc outside of GameEx I'm using the Zinc GUI. I was trying to set it up in Advanced Mame options. Thanks for the guide!

[Tempest]

Same here, To be run Zinc outside of GameEx I'm using the Zinc GUI. I was trying to set it up in Advanced Mame options. Thanks for the guide!

Ok. I'm still betting on your commandline. Go to Start>All programs>Accessories>command prompt

This should open a window with a command prompt:

C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator> (your may look different than this)

Type: cd\Emulators\Zinc (the path to where ever your Zinc.exe is) No Spaces allowed!

The computer will come back with:

C:\Emulators\Zinc>

Type Zinc.exe 2 (2 is the game street fighter ex if you do not have this game you will have to use a different number 1-71)

The computer should respond with "zinc 1.1 © 1997-2005 Drunken muppets.......

opening game : Street fighter ex...........

Error cannot open renderer plugin............

C:\Emulators\Zinc>

Press the up arrow on your keyboard the computer will re-enter "Zinc.exe 2" by itself

Then add --renderer=C:\Emulators\Zinc\Plugins\renderer.znc

You may have to change render.znc to whatever your filename is, and your pathe almost certainly won't be the same as mine.

When you press enter, it will tell you in the dos window that what the problem is. If it the renderer, keep playing with the command line until you get it right, making sure your paths, and filenames are correct. It will tell you in the Dos window what it can't find.

When that part is right, then add:

--controller=C:\Emulators\Zinc\Plugins\Controller_JS.znc

Same deal, keep working at it until Zinc runs. It should be easier after getting the path right for the renderer.

Remember to use the up arrow to go back to the previous Command (saves alot of typing.)

I just spent an hour working this out, so plan on spending some time.

When you get it to run, use escape to exit zinc.

Go to the setup wizard, use custom>zinc

Zinc Path: C:\Emulators\Zinc

Zinc exe: Zinc.exe

Zinc options: Type in the last command line that you used in the dos window when Zinc ran word for word, Everything must be EXACT!

GOOD LUCK!

[Hunk_4TH]

Thanks dude! This worked on my desktop computer but for some reason wouldn't work on my cabinet strange huh? lol I tried Brian's method of setting it up as an emulator and its working out great so far. I was hoping to set it up in the Mame list since these are arcade roms too. I had no problems setting up the awesome model 2 emulator though

[Brian Hoffman]

Thanks dude! This worked on my desktop computer but for some reason wouldn't work on my cabinet strange huh? lol I tried Brian's method of setting it up as an emulator and its working out great so far. I was hoping to set it up in the Mame list since these are arcade roms too. I had no problems setting up the awesome model 2 emulator though

Im glad you liked it.

you can use the same thing for the mame list setup... Just point to the paths

Zinc uses mame roms anyway.. I just copied all that stuff into my mame folder. minus the batch files of course.

[Hunk_4TH]

Im glad you liked it.

you can use the same thing for the mame list setup... Just point to the paths

Zinc uses mame roms anyway.. I just copied all that stuff into my mame folder. minus the batch files of course.

Sweet I didn't think of that. Oh one more thing outside of GameEx Zinc works with X-arcade but inside of GameEx it doesn't. Anyway I'm sure you guys are tired of hearing about my problems

[Brian Hoffman]

Sweet I didn't think of that. Oh one more thing outside of GameEx Zinc works with X-arcade but inside of GameEx it doesn't. Anyway I'm sure you guys are tired of hearing these sort of things from me

I made an ahk key script to remap my buttons correctly... Id recommend you do the same. Just google Zinc default keys.

Lets say Zinc default button 1 is S and your button 1 is T your script would read.

S::T

And so on and so fourth.. you can compile as an EXE and launch on zinc startup...

[Hunk_4TH]

Oh yea I almost forgot about that I still have that installed on the cabinet that program was very useful.

[Tempest]

Im glad you liked it.

you can use the same thing for the mame list setup... Just point to the paths

Zinc uses mame roms anyway.. I just copied all that stuff into my mame folder. minus the batch files of course.

Thanx Tempest but I just saw the almighty and powerful game ex guru Brian looking at this so I'll wait to see what he says

I Feel Cheap and Dirty.

[Brian Hoffman]

I was really hoping that somebody would jump in here.

Ask and you shall recieve... Actually I wanted to see how far you guys would get... You did really good...

I wasnt aware Djinfinity posted in this thread... hehehehe

Great job Tempest I wasnt looking to steal anyones thunder and you have been doing great

[Tempest]

Ask and you shall recieve... Actually I wanted to see how far you guys would get... You did really good...

I wasnt aware Djinfinity posted in this thread... hehehehe

Great job Tempest I wasnt looking to steal anyones thunder and you have been doing great

Thunder? I heard a little rumble, but that was just my stomach.....

No Problem, I just enjoy a chance to get "a shot" in every once in awhile!

[Hunk_4TH]

Hey Brian thanks again for the help! It seems to be working perfectly as an emulator! I have a question though some games like Tekken don't respond to the controls except for up,down,left,right and the start button. Anyway to fix this? I would use AHK but can't figure out what the mappings are in Zinc since I've set up all the games to use the X-arcade layout.

[Brian Hoffman]

Hey Brian thanks again for the help! It seems to be working perfectly as an emulator! I have a question though some games like Tekken don't respond to the controls except for up,down,left,right and the start button. Anyway to fix this? I would use AHK but can't figure out what the mappings are in Zinc since I've set up all the games to use the X-arcade layout.

Games like tekken (even tho they have 4 buttons or so) dont use buttons 1-4 it uses buttons 10-14.

Its kinda fucked but the main reason I used AHK to map my keys.

[Hunk_4TH]

Oh I see. I'll try giving AHK another shot thanks!

[Brian Hoffman]

you may want to check this out.

Btw: I am wrong about the actual keys used but it isnt 1-4

http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php/topic,32668.0.html