Crash report - 4.73

[Nightlife]

Hey Tom

After installing 4.73, I get the following crash when I try to load any game from MAME:

12:14:16.1 8/13/2005: 20 Consecutive Exceptions Occured: Exiting

12:14:16.1 8/13/2005: at Microsoft.DirectX.DirectDraw.Surface.DrawInternal(tagRECT* destRectangle, Surface sourceSurface, tagRECT* srcRectangle, DrawFlags flags, DrawEffects& bltEffects)

12:14:16.1 8/13/2005: at Microsoft.DirectX.DirectDraw.Surface.Draw(Rectangle destRectangle, Surface sourceSurface, Rectangle srcRectangle, DrawFlags flags)

12:14:16.1 8/13/2005: at GameEx.GameEx.mainform.LaunchSelectedMAMEGame()

12:14:16.1 8/13/2005: at GameEx.GameEx.mainform.processgamemenu()

12:14:16.1 8/13/2005: at GameEx.GameEx.mainform.DisplayFrame()

I will include my ini file as an attachment.

Any advice? Thanks so much!

GameEx.zip

[Tom Speirs]

Hey Tom

After installing 4.73, I get the following crash when I try to load any game from MAME:

12:14:16.1  8/13/2005:  20 Consecutive Exceptions Occured: Exiting

12:14:16.1  8/13/2005:    at Microsoft.DirectX.DirectDraw.Surface.DrawInternal(tagRECT* destRectangle, Surface sourceSurface, tagRECT* srcRectangle, DrawFlags flags, DrawEffects& bltEffects)

12:14:16.1  8/13/2005:    at Microsoft.DirectX.DirectDraw.Surface.Draw(Rectangle destRectangle, Surface sourceSurface, Rectangle srcRectangle, DrawFlags flags)

12:14:16.1  8/13/2005:    at GameEx.GameEx.mainform.LaunchSelectedMAMEGame()

12:14:16.1  8/13/2005:    at GameEx.GameEx.mainform.processgamemenu()

12:14:16.1  8/13/2005:    at GameEx.GameEx.mainform.DisplayFrame()

I will include my ini file as an attachment.

Any advice? Thanks so much!

Can you see if its fixed in 4.80?

[Tom Speirs]

Hey Tom

After installing 4.73, I get the following crash when I try to load any game from MAME:

12:14:16.1  8/13/2005:  20 Consecutive Exceptions Occured: Exiting

12:14:16.1  8/13/2005:    at Microsoft.DirectX.DirectDraw.Surface.DrawInternal(tagRECT* destRectangle, Surface sourceSurface, tagRECT* srcRectangle, DrawFlags flags, DrawEffects& bltEffects)

12:14:16.1  8/13/2005:    at Microsoft.DirectX.DirectDraw.Surface.Draw(Rectangle destRectangle, Surface sourceSurface, Rectangle srcRectangle, DrawFlags flags)

12:14:16.1  8/13/2005:    at GameEx.GameEx.mainform.LaunchSelectedMAMEGame()

12:14:16.1  8/13/2005:    at GameEx.GameEx.mainform.processgamemenu()

12:14:16.1  8/13/2005:    at GameEx.GameEx.mainform.DisplayFrame()

I will include my ini file as an attachment.

Any advice? Thanks so much!

Can you also provide you full log and version of MAME your using? Was GameEx working previously, is this an upgrade?

[Nightlife]

Can you also provide you full log and version of MAME your using? Was GameEx working previously, is this an upgrade?

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Still not working in 4.80... but get this! It crashes when I select "Play this game," but it still plays games in attract mode! Also, it crashes when I select "Update list."

Using MAME32 version 0.96. GameEX was working before flawlessly, and this is an upgrade.

Full log:

15:39:17.8 8/13/2005: GameEx: Version 4.80: Starting Log

15:39:17.9 8/13/2005: Operating System Platform: Win32NT

15:39:17.9 8/13/2005: Operating System Name: Windows XP

15:39:17.9 8/13/2005: Operating System Version: 5.1.2600

15:39:17.9 8/13/2005: Running Randomize()

15:39:17.9 8/13/2005: Running Misc startup tasks

15:39:17.9 8/13/2005: Hiding Cursor

15:39:17.9 8/13/2005: Setting Menu types

15:39:17.9 8/13/2005: Opening Configuration File

15:39:17.9 8/13/2005: Getting Configuration Values

15:39:17.9 8/13/2005: Using Theme: Default - BlueEx - Arcade800x600

15:39:17.9 8/13/2005: Checking for alternate Image Directory for Theme: Default - BlueEx - Arcade800x600

15:39:17.9 8/13/2005: Text/Language: English

15:39:17.9 8/13/2005: Applying Language/Text

15:39:17.9 8/13/2005: Creating Scancodes.txt (List of DirectInput scan codes)

15:39:17.9 8/13/2005: Snap Delay set to: 1

15:39:17.9 8/13/2005: Is Media Center running?

15:39:17.9 8/13/2005: Check Media Center Exit/Start Mode

15:39:17.9 8/13/2005: Media Center Mode 0

15:39:17.9 8/13/2005: Checking for applications to Launch On Startup

15:39:17.9 8/13/2005: Get other settings

15:39:17.9 8/13/2005: Launching HideOS.exe

15:39:18.8 8/13/2005: Hiding Taskbar

15:39:18.8 8/13/2005: Start work for Form

15:39:18.8 8/13/2005: Getting Original Screen Size

15:39:18.8 8/13/2005: Loading ICON

15:39:18.8 8/13/2005: Initializing Component

15:39:18.8 8/13/2005: Initialising Bass Audio Library

15:39:18.9 8/13/2005: Loading default loading screen

15:39:19.0 8/13/2005: Arcade Mode is on

15:39:19.0 8/13/2005: Using General Font: Trebuchet MS

15:39:19.0 8/13/2005: Using Title Font: Joystix

15:39:19.0 8/13/2005: Initialising DirectDraw

15:39:19.0 8/13/2005: Applying GameEx is Loading Image

15:39:19.0 8/13/2005: Creating DirectDraw Device

15:39:19.0 8/13/2005: Using Device: NVIDIA GeForce4 MX Integrated GPU

15:39:19.0 8/13/2005: Setting Resolution to 800x600 32 bit color

15:39:19.0 8/13/2005: Creating DirectDraw Surfaces

15:39:19.0 8/13/2005: Creating Primary Surface - Full Screen Mode

15:39:19.0 8/13/2005: Creating Back Buffer

15:39:19.3 8/13/2005: Loading graphic surfaces

15:39:19.4 8/13/2005: Creating Surfaces Misc and Dialogs

15:39:19.4 8/13/2005: Creating Surface Volume

15:39:19.4 8/13/2005: Creating Surfaces Arrows

15:39:19.4 8/13/2005: Creating Surfaces GameEXlogo Text

15:39:19.4 8/13/2005: Creating Surfaces Toolbar

15:39:19.5 8/13/2005: Creating Surfaces Backgrounds

15:39:19.8 8/13/2005: Creating Surfaces Toolbar Controls

15:39:19.8 8/13/2005: Creating Surfaces GameEx Logo

15:39:19.8 8/13/2005: Creating Surfaces Home & Exit

15:39:19.8 8/13/2005: Creating Surfaces Snaps

15:39:19.8 8/13/2005: Creating Surfaces Menu and List Bars

15:39:19.8 8/13/2005: Creating Fonts

15:39:19.8 8/13/2005: Creating Menu Font

15:39:19.9 8/13/2005: Creating Game Font

15:39:20.0 8/13/2005: Creating Game Font Standard Size

15:39:20.4 8/13/2005: Creating Font Black

15:39:20.4 8/13/2005: Creating Font Black Small

15:39:20.5 8/13/2005: Creating Game Font Faded

15:39:20.6 8/13/2005: Creating Title Font

15:39:20.7 8/13/2005: Initialising Windows Media Player Component

15:39:20.7 8/13/2005: MAME Path is: C:\Emulation\MAME\Mame32

15:39:20.7 8/13/2005: daphne Path is: E:\Emulation2\daphne

15:39:20.7 8/13/2005: daphne EXE file is: Daphne.exe

15:39:20.7 8/13/2005: Use daphne on. Daphne.exe will launch games

15:39:20.8 8/13/2005: MAME EXE file is: Mame32.exe

15:39:20.8 8/13/2005: ROM Path is: C:\Emulation\MAME\Mame32\roms

15:39:20.8 8/13/2005: Catver.ini is located at: C:\Program Files\GameEx\DATA\catver.ini

15:39:20.8 8/13/2005: controls.ini is located at: C:\Program Files\GameEx\data\controls.ini

15:39:20.8 8/13/2005: History.dat is located at: C:\Program Files\GameEx\DATA\history.dat

15:39:20.8 8/13/2005: nplayers.ini is located at: C:\Program Files\GameEx\DATA\nplayers.ini

15:39:20.8 8/13/2005: MAMEinfo.dat is located at: C:\Program Files\GameEx\DATA\mameinfo.dat

15:39:20.8 8/13/2005: Loading Controls.ini map file

15:39:20.8 8/13/2005: Loading Custom Emulators

15:39:20.8 8/13/2005: Loading Emulator 1: Nintendo 64 Games

15:39:20.8 8/13/2005: Loading Emulator 2: Super Nintendo Games

15:39:20.9 8/13/2005: Loading Emulator 3: Pinball Games

15:39:20.9 8/13/2005: Loading Emulator 4: Nintendo Entertainment System Games

15:39:20.9 8/13/2005: Loading Emulator 5: Atari 2600 Games

15:39:21.0 8/13/2005: Loading Emulator 7: Sega Genesis Games

15:39:21.0 8/13/2005: Loading Emulator 8: Nintendo Gameboy Games

15:39:21.0 8/13/2005: Loading Emulator 9: NEC TurboGrafx 16 Games

15:39:21.0 8/13/2005: Loading Emulator 10: SegaCD Games

15:39:21.1 8/13/2005: Loading Emulator 11: Sega Master System Games

15:39:21.1 8/13/2005: Loading Emulator 12: Sega Game Gear Games

15:39:21.4 8/13/2005: Snap Path is: C:\Emulation\MAME\Mame32\snap

15:39:21.4 8/13/2005: AVI Snap Path is: C:\Emulation\MAME\Mame32\snap

15:39:21.4 8/13/2005: Flyer Path is: C:\Emulation\MAME\Mame32\flyers

15:39:21.4 8/13/2005: Cabinet Path is: C:\Emulation\MAME\Mame32\cabinets

15:39:21.4 8/13/2005: Title Path is: C:\Emulation\MAME\Mame32\titles

15:39:21.4 8/13/2005: Panel Path is: C:\Emulation\MAME\Mame32\cpanel

15:39:21.4 8/13/2005: Icon Path is: C:\Emulation\MAME\Mame32\icons

15:39:21.4 8/13/2005: Marquee Path is: C:\Emulation\MAME\Mame32\marquees

15:39:21.4 8/13/2005: MAME CMD options: -skip_disclaimer -skip_gameinfo -triplebuffer -nowindow -joy

15:39:21.4 8/13/2005: Attempting to load game list

15:39:21.6 8/13/2005: Loading last used Game List

15:39:22.0 8/13/2005: Loading music from Windows Media Player

15:39:22.3 8/13/2005: Creating DirectSound Device

15:39:22.3 8/13/2005: Trying: Primary Sound Driver

15:39:22.3 8/13/2005: Loading Sound Files

15:39:22.3 8/13/2005: DirectSound Device Created Successfully

15:39:22.3 8/13/2005: Creating ICONS

15:39:23.3 8/13/2005: Initialising DirectInput for Gamepad support

15:39:23.3 8/13/2005: Using Device GIC USB Joystick

15:39:23.3 8/13/2005: Initializing MCE Remote

15:39:23.3 8/13/2005: Initialization OK! Starting GameEx!

15:39:23.3 8/13/2005: Testing Main Loop Once: Processing Frame

15:39:23.5 8/13/2005: Testing Main Loop Once: Main Loop ran successfully

15:39:30.0 8/13/2005: 20 Consecutive Exceptions Occured: Exiting

15:39:30.0 8/13/2005: at Microsoft.DirectX.DirectDraw.Surface.DrawInternal(tagRECT* destRectangle, Surface sourceSurface, tagRECT* srcRectangle, DrawFlags flags, DrawEffects& bltEffects)

15:39:30.0 8/13/2005: at Microsoft.DirectX.DirectDraw.Surface.Draw(Rectangle destRectangle, Surface sourceSurface, Rectangle srcRectangle, DrawFlags flags)

15:39:30.0 8/13/2005: at GameEx.GameEx.mainform.LaunchSelectedMAMEGame()

15:39:30.0 8/13/2005: at GameEx.GameEx.mainform.processgamemenu()

15:39:30.0 8/13/2005: at GameEx.GameEx.mainform.DisplayFrame()

[Tom Speirs]

Still not working in 4.80... but get this! It crashes when I select "Play this game," but it still plays games in attract mode! Also, it crashes when I select "Update list."

Using MAME32 version 0.96. GameEX was working before flawlessly, and this is an upgrade.

Full log:

15:39:17.8  8/13/2005:  GameEx: Version 4.80: Starting Log

15:39:17.9  8/13/2005:  Operating System Platform: Win32NT

15:39:17.9  8/13/2005:  Operating System Name: Windows XP

15:39:17.9  8/13/2005:  Operating System Version: 5.1.2600

15:39:17.9  8/13/2005:  Running Randomize()

15:39:17.9  8/13/2005:  Running Misc startup tasks

15:39:17.9  8/13/2005:  Hiding Cursor

15:39:17.9  8/13/2005:  Setting Menu types

15:39:17.9  8/13/2005:  Opening Configuration File

15:39:17.9  8/13/2005:  Getting Configuration Values

15:39:17.9  8/13/2005:  Using Theme: Default - BlueEx - Arcade800x600

15:39:17.9  8/13/2005:  Checking for alternate Image Directory for Theme: Default - BlueEx - Arcade800x600

15:39:17.9  8/13/2005:  Text/Language: English

15:39:17.9  8/13/2005:  Applying Language/Text

15:39:17.9  8/13/2005:  Creating Scancodes.txt (List of DirectInput scan codes)

15:39:17.9  8/13/2005:  Snap Delay set to: 1

15:39:17.9  8/13/2005:  Is Media Center running?

15:39:17.9  8/13/2005:  Check Media Center Exit/Start Mode

15:39:17.9  8/13/2005:  Media Center Mode 0

15:39:17.9  8/13/2005:  Checking for applications to Launch On Startup

15:39:17.9  8/13/2005:  Get other settings

15:39:17.9  8/13/2005:  Launching HideOS.exe

15:39:18.8  8/13/2005:  Hiding Taskbar

15:39:18.8  8/13/2005:  Start work for Form

15:39:18.8  8/13/2005:  Getting Original Screen Size

15:39:18.8  8/13/2005:  Loading ICON

15:39:18.8  8/13/2005:  Initializing Component

15:39:18.8  8/13/2005:  Initialising Bass Audio Library

15:39:18.9  8/13/2005:  Loading default loading screen

15:39:19.0  8/13/2005:  Arcade Mode is on

15:39:19.0  8/13/2005:  Using General Font: Trebuchet MS

15:39:19.0  8/13/2005:  Using Title Font: Joystix

15:39:19.0  8/13/2005:  Initialising DirectDraw

15:39:19.0  8/13/2005:  Applying GameEx is Loading Image

15:39:19.0  8/13/2005:  Creating DirectDraw Device

15:39:19.0  8/13/2005:  Using Device: NVIDIA GeForce4 MX Integrated GPU

15:39:19.0  8/13/2005:  Setting Resolution to 800x600 32 bit color

15:39:19.0  8/13/2005:  Creating DirectDraw Surfaces

15:39:19.0  8/13/2005:  Creating Primary Surface - Full Screen Mode

15:39:19.0  8/13/2005:  Creating Back Buffer

15:39:19.3  8/13/2005:  Loading graphic surfaces

15:39:19.4  8/13/2005:  Creating Surfaces Misc and Dialogs

15:39:19.4  8/13/2005:  Creating Surface Volume

15:39:19.4  8/13/2005:  Creating Surfaces Arrows

15:39:19.4  8/13/2005:  Creating Surfaces GameEXlogo Text

15:39:19.4  8/13/2005:  Creating Surfaces Toolbar

15:39:19.5  8/13/2005:  Creating Surfaces Backgrounds

15:39:19.8  8/13/2005:  Creating Surfaces Toolbar Controls

15:39:19.8  8/13/2005:  Creating Surfaces GameEx Logo

15:39:19.8  8/13/2005:  Creating Surfaces Home & Exit

15:39:19.8  8/13/2005:  Creating Surfaces Snaps

15:39:19.8  8/13/2005:  Creating Surfaces Menu and List Bars

15:39:19.8  8/13/2005:  Creating Fonts

15:39:19.8  8/13/2005:  Creating Menu Font

15:39:19.9  8/13/2005:  Creating Game Font

15:39:20.0  8/13/2005:  Creating Game Font Standard Size

15:39:20.4  8/13/2005:  Creating Font Black

15:39:20.4  8/13/2005:  Creating Font Black Small

15:39:20.5  8/13/2005:  Creating Game Font Faded

15:39:20.6  8/13/2005:  Creating Title Font

15:39:20.7  8/13/2005:  Initialising Windows Media Player Component

15:39:20.7  8/13/2005:  MAME Path is: C:\Emulation\MAME\Mame32

15:39:20.7  8/13/2005:  daphne Path is: E:\Emulation2\daphne

15:39:20.7  8/13/2005:  daphne EXE file is: Daphne.exe

15:39:20.7  8/13/2005:  Use daphne on. Daphne.exe will launch games

15:39:20.8  8/13/2005:  MAME EXE file is: Mame32.exe

15:39:20.8  8/13/2005:  ROM Path is: C:\Emulation\MAME\Mame32\roms

15:39:20.8  8/13/2005:  Catver.ini is located at: C:\Program Files\GameEx\DATA\catver.ini

15:39:20.8  8/13/2005:  controls.ini is located at: C:\Program Files\GameEx\data\controls.ini

15:39:20.8  8/13/2005:  History.dat is located at: C:\Program Files\GameEx\DATA\history.dat

15:39:20.8  8/13/2005:  nplayers.ini is located at: C:\Program Files\GameEx\DATA\nplayers.ini

15:39:20.8  8/13/2005:  MAMEinfo.dat is located at: C:\Program Files\GameEx\DATA\mameinfo.dat

15:39:20.8  8/13/2005:  Loading Controls.ini map file

15:39:20.8  8/13/2005:  Loading Custom Emulators

15:39:20.8  8/13/2005:  Loading Emulator 1: Nintendo 64 Games

15:39:20.8  8/13/2005:  Loading Emulator 2: Super Nintendo Games

15:39:20.9  8/13/2005:  Loading Emulator 3: Pinball Games

15:39:20.9  8/13/2005:  Loading Emulator 4: Nintendo Entertainment System Games

15:39:20.9  8/13/2005:  Loading Emulator 5: Atari 2600 Games

15:39:21.0  8/13/2005:  Loading Emulator 7: Sega Genesis Games

15:39:21.0  8/13/2005:  Loading Emulator 8: Nintendo Gameboy Games

15:39:21.0  8/13/2005:  Loading Emulator 9: NEC TurboGrafx 16 Games

15:39:21.0  8/13/2005:  Loading Emulator 10: SegaCD Games

15:39:21.1  8/13/2005:  Loading Emulator 11: Sega Master System Games

15:39:21.1  8/13/2005:  Loading Emulator 12: Sega Game Gear Games

15:39:21.4  8/13/2005:  Snap Path is: C:\Emulation\MAME\Mame32\snap

15:39:21.4  8/13/2005:  AVI Snap Path is: C:\Emulation\MAME\Mame32\snap

15:39:21.4  8/13/2005:  Flyer Path is: C:\Emulation\MAME\Mame32\flyers

15:39:21.4  8/13/2005:  Cabinet Path is: C:\Emulation\MAME\Mame32\cabinets

15:39:21.4  8/13/2005:  Title Path is: C:\Emulation\MAME\Mame32\titles

15:39:21.4  8/13/2005:  Panel Path is: C:\Emulation\MAME\Mame32\cpanel

15:39:21.4  8/13/2005:  Icon Path is: C:\Emulation\MAME\Mame32\icons

15:39:21.4  8/13/2005:  Marquee Path is: C:\Emulation\MAME\Mame32\marquees

15:39:21.4  8/13/2005:  MAME CMD options: -skip_disclaimer -skip_gameinfo -triplebuffer -nowindow -joy

15:39:21.4  8/13/2005:  Attempting to load game list

15:39:21.6  8/13/2005:  Loading last used Game List

15:39:22.0  8/13/2005:  Loading music from Windows Media Player

15:39:22.3  8/13/2005:  Creating DirectSound Device

15:39:22.3  8/13/2005:  Trying: Primary Sound Driver

15:39:22.3  8/13/2005:  Loading Sound Files

15:39:22.3  8/13/2005:  DirectSound Device Created Successfully

15:39:22.3  8/13/2005:  Creating ICONS

15:39:23.3  8/13/2005:  Initialising DirectInput for Gamepad support

15:39:23.3  8/13/2005:  Using Device GIC USB Joystick

15:39:23.3  8/13/2005:  Initializing MCE Remote

15:39:23.3  8/13/2005:  Initialization OK! Starting GameEx!

15:39:23.3  8/13/2005:  Testing Main Loop Once: Processing Frame

15:39:23.5  8/13/2005:  Testing Main Loop Once: Main Loop ran successfully

15:39:30.0  8/13/2005:  20 Consecutive Exceptions Occured: Exiting

15:39:30.0  8/13/2005:    at Microsoft.DirectX.DirectDraw.Surface.DrawInternal(tagRECT* destRectangle, Surface sourceSurface, tagRECT* srcRectangle, DrawFlags flags, DrawEffects& bltEffects)

15:39:30.0  8/13/2005:    at Microsoft.DirectX.DirectDraw.Surface.Draw(Rectangle destRectangle, Surface sourceSurface, Rectangle srcRectangle, DrawFlags flags)

15:39:30.0  8/13/2005:    at GameEx.GameEx.mainform.LaunchSelectedMAMEGame()

15:39:30.0  8/13/2005:    at GameEx.GameEx.mainform.processgamemenu()

15:39:30.0  8/13/2005:    at GameEx.GameEx.mainform.DisplayFrame()

Can you see if it works with the default theme please.

[Nightlife]

Can you see if it works with the default theme please.

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

No love... does not work with the default theme.

Also, I tried removing GameEX and starting with a fresh install. Still does not work: Same errors.

[Tom Speirs]

No love... does not work with the default theme.

Also, I tried removing GameEX and starting with a fresh install. Still does not work: Same errors.

Please try this debug version, zip and post the log.

(It runs slow as its doing a lot of logging. That's normal).

Did you update your drivers recently by any chance?

You could also try increasing your onboard graphics ram.

GameEx.zip

[Nightlife]

Please try this debug version, zip and post the log.

(It runs slow as its doing a lot of logging. That's normal).

Did you update your drivers recently by any chance?

You could also try increasing your onboard graphics ram.

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Attached is the debug log.

Didn't update my drivers recently...

Tried increasing onboard graphics ram, still no luck (darn!!).

log.zip

[Tom Speirs]

Attached is the debug log.

Didn't update my drivers recently...

Tried increasing onboard graphics ram, still no luck (darn!!).

Can you give the one when you try and launch a mame game too?

Thanks.

[Nightlife]

Can you give the one when you try and launch a mame game too?

Thanks.

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Here you go.

Thanks!!!

log.zip

[Tom Speirs]

Here you go.

Thanks!!!

Same again please but with Default - Deafult theme

Cheers.

[Nightlife]

Same again please but with Default - Deafult theme

Cheers.

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Attached.

Thanks!

log.zip

[Tom Speirs]

Attached.

Thanks!

Sorry, it does not appear to be a bug, its some incompatiblity with your system by the look of it. I am pretty sure its not directly related to the upgrade.

I dont know if this helps, but GameEx is failing when its trying to blit in directdraw 'errordialog.bmp'. You could possibly take a look at that graphics file. As I said I see no bug anywhere, or anything to do with something that has changed with the latest versions.

How much RAM do you have? You could try setting the 16-bit colour setting, or trying a different graphics drivers. There has been reported issues with newer Nvidia drivers.

Tom.

[night]

yes the newer builds of Nvidia drivers are bad for alot of g-force Fx owners

one of my friends with a p4 2.8 and a G-force FX card had GameEX running with those newer drivers and it feelt like he had a p2 400 mhz it ran jerky and some games did run really bad as well then we tryed a older Nvidia build and now he runs Game-Ex perfectly so im using the 66.93 build that works best for me at least

[Nightlife]

Tom, thank you so much for all of your help on this.

I am using an AMD Athlon 1.92 GHz with 480 MB of RAM.

Guess what! Works when I switch it to use 16 Bit color! Bizarre that this happened on the upgrade... wonder if the new version increased RAM requirements juuuuust enough to make this happen?

Either way, might be time for me to buy more RAM.

Thanks again for your help!!

[Tom Speirs]

Tom, thank you so much for all of your help on this.

I am using an AMD Athlon 1.92 GHz with 480 MB of RAM.

Guess what! Works when I switch it to use 16 Bit color! Bizarre that this happened on the upgrade... wonder if the new version increased RAM requirements juuuuust enough to make this happen?

Either way, might be time for me to buy more RAM.

Thanks again for your help!!

480MB really should be ample for GameEx. I think the issue is more related to your Video card or drivers, you could try increasing the ram on your video card some more. Your system looks in very good shape, its some kind of video issue I am almost certain.

Hope that helps a little.

[djrobx]

Nvidia build and now he runs Game-Ex perfectly so im using the 66.93 build that works best for me at least

Agreed. Anything newer than 66.93 is not working reliably for me either. I get video freeze-ups and all kinds of odd behavior with the 7x.xx drivers.

If you have 480mb of RAM, I'm assuming you're using onboard video with 32mb of RAM. What you probably need is a better video card.

-- Rob

[Nightlife]

Agreed.  Anything newer than 66.93 is not working reliably for me either.  I get video freeze-ups and all kinds of odd behavior with the 7x.xx drivers.

If you have 480mb of RAM, I'm assuming you're using onboard video with 32mb of RAM.  What you probably need is a better video card.

-- Rob

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Tom, Rob, thanks for your help. Looks like it's time to bite the bullet and buy a better video card, ehh?

Thanks again!!

[Tom Speirs]

Tom, Rob, thanks for your help. Looks like it's time to bite the bullet and buy a better video card, ehh?

Thanks again!!

Rob may know more aout video hardware than me, but before you splash out try an go into your computers BIOS, and see if you can increase the memory the Geforce 4 is using to 64MB or 128MB rath than 32MB.

Im just guessing but I'm thinking a Geforce 4 even if onboard should be able to support more than 32MB.

You dont need a really new card for GameEx just something thats say got 64MB to 128MB RAM and is reasonably recent and is perhaps not a budget version. I cant guarantee it but a decent Geforce 3 AGP card should do 32 bit I would I have thought. Any old shit should run in 16 bit though

[djrobx]

Good idea to check that, but onboard cards rarely go very high in my experience

-- Rob

[Tom Speirs]

Good idea to check that, but onboard cards rarely go very high in my experience

-- Rob

Your original post was more fun . Keep what you think next time

I dont think these video card issues with 32 bit colour are actually anything to do with video memory, but rather crappy old gfx cards. I say this because I have 32 bit colour running in Virtual PC fine. Which emulates an S3 which reports only 8MB RAM. I think managed directx does not store the Direct Draw surfaces on the card, or only stores on the card when it has memory.

[djrobx]

Your original post was more fun  . Keep what you think next time 

I think I've just been on message boards for too long. Too many posts get taken the wrong way, so I proofread.