TinyXP

[headkaze]

When trying to run GameEx on a machine with TinyXP the following error occurs

Error: The 'Microsoft.Jet.OLEDB.4.0' provider is not registered on the local machine.
22:02:56.9 11/01/2008: at System.Data.OleDb.OleDbServicesWrapper.GetDataSour ce(OleDbConnectionString constr, DataSourceWrapper& datasrcWrapper)
22:02:56.9 11/01/2008: at System.Data.OleDb.OleDbConnectionInternal..ctor(Ol eDbConnectionString constr, OleDbConnection connection)
22:02:56.9 11/01/2008: at System.Data.OleDb.OleDbConnectionFactory.CreateCon nection(DbConnectionOptions options, Object poolGroupProviderInfo, DbConnectionPool pool, DbConnection owningObject)
22:02:56.9 11/01/2008: at System.Data.ProviderBase.DbConnectionFactory.Creat eNonPooledConnection(DbConnection owningConnection, DbConnectionPoolGroup poolGroup)
22:02:56.9 11/01/2008: at System.Data.ProviderBase.DbConnectionFactory.GetCo nnection(DbConnection owningConnection)
22:02:56.9 11/01/2008: at System.Data.ProviderBase.DbConnectionClosed.OpenCo nnection(DbConnection outerConnection, DbConnectionFactory connectionFactory)
22:02:56.9 11/01/2008: at System.Data.OleDb.OleDbConnection.Open()
22:02:56.9 11/01/2008: at l.a(Boolean A_0, String A_1, Boolean A_2)
22:02:56.9 11/01/2008: at l..ctor()
22:02:56.9 11/01/2008: GameEx is exiting with errors
22:02:58.1 11/01/2008: ERRORS DETECTED: EXITING

Has anyone actually tried installing Microsoft Jet 4.0 on a TinyXP machine?

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/kb/239114

Anyone have an old PC lying around they can install TinyXP and see if we can get GameEx running on it?

[bkenobi]

I have one in the closet, that I might be able to play with. Can it fit on a 2GB HDD? Btw, where do I get TinyXP? I only have WinXP Pro.

[fRequEnCy]

I can give it a try headkaze. I'm getting a copy of tinyxp as we speak. So will let you know and see what we can come up with. Will try to get to it this weekend.

[headkaze]

Have a search for "Windows TinyXP Platinum Edition 2". I just realised that Microsoft Virtual PC 2008 is FREE! So I'm going to download TinyXP myself and get it running in a virtual environment on this PC.

So lets see who can be the first to get GameEx running on TinyXP

[headkaze]

I have one in the closet, that I might be able to play with. Can it fit on a 2GB HDD? Btw, where do I get TinyXP? I only have WinXP Pro.

It takes up around 680Mb of disk space.

Have a search for "Windows TinyXP Platinum Edition 2". I just realised that Microsoft Virtual PC 2008 is FREE! So I'm going to download TinyXP myself and get it running in a virtual environment on this PC.

So lets see who can be the first to get GameEx running on TinyXP

[mightypeniz]

I have one in the closet, that I might be able to play with.

(Saved for future blackmailing purposes)

[Nologic]

LOL

[Brian Hoffman]

Why tinyXp? I heard the nlited installs are better and give you more control of whats removed.

[headkaze]

Why tinyXp? I heard the nlited installs are better and give you more control of whats removed.

NLite was used to create TinyXP but it's just to have a benchmark on what is needed to get GameEx running on a stripped down version of XP. NLite allows more customisation and all that, but since TinyXP does have some popularity for cab builders I think it's a good starting point. But I'm happy to include NLite testing in this experiment, really any stripped down version of XP should be okay.

The frist question I want answered is "does installing Microsoft Jet 4.0 on TinyXP allow GameEx to run? And if not what is necessary to get it running?"

[Brian Hoffman]

NLite was used to create TinyXP but it's just to have a benchmark on what is needed to get GameEx running on a stripped down version of XP. NLite allows more customisation and all that, but since TinyXP does have some popularity for cab builders I think it's a good starting point. But I'm happy to include NLite testing in this experiment, really any stripped down version of XP should be okay.

The frist question I want answered is "does installing Microsoft Jet 4.0 on TinyXP allow GameEx to run? And if not what is necessary to get it running?"

Well sounds interesting to me.. Ill look into it also.. I use virtualbox its also free and has some great features

[bkenobi]

(Saved for future blackmailing purposes)

Wait...a guy with the handle "mightypeniz" is going to blackmail me over a comment about what I have in my closet and what I plan on doing with it?!

[Nologic]

Hehe this could get interesting except we are hijacking a mod's thread.

[bkenobi]

Back on target

[Brian Hoffman]

Hehe this could get interesting except we are hijacking a mod's thread.

Hehehe... No one is safe from the amount of thread jacking that goes around here.

Back on track. I got TinyXP and will be checking into it tonight... I recently formatted my HD and dont have qiute all the tools I need reinstalled.

[headkaze]

It's gonna take me a while to finish my download too, so I'm noowhere near there yet either

And everyone is equal here as far as thread jacking is concerned and I quite like a bit of humour and banter in posts to lighten things up a bit

[Brian Hoffman]

Ive installed Tinyxp on my virtualbox and installed Gameex.

So far Ive installed, notnet, mediaplayer11, MDAC,

I tried intalling the M$ jet software but when it loads it says my version is newer and stops. All I could find on M$ download page was servicepacks for JET not full version installers.

So far Iam still working on it but have to go out so Ill keep diging later.

Anyone else try it yet?

[Tom Speirs]

Basicaly. Nlite it, Nlite it, Nlite it.

Theres even a Vista version now which I have used to great success.

One of the "Non Recommended" (in red) options in Nlite is to remove database components. That must be whats going on TinyXP.

Also, is Tiny XP legal? Should it be talked about here?

I know with Nlite you basically use your own XP,2000 or Vista install so I have no problems with it. I've used it a lot and like I said the Vista version to.

Instead of working on TinyXP which I doubt yourll get to work as once the stuff is removed you cant get it back a lot of time, why not create a topic/thread on the best Nlite options?

[eproxy]

interesting

[eproxy]

nlite is free and should be the answer. the question is whats required minimally to run GX properly excluding specific hardware drivers etc..?

Great topic for sure

[Brian Hoffman]

Basicaly. Nlite it, Nlite it, Nlite it.

Theres even a Vista version now which I have used to great success.

One of the "Non Recommended" (in red) options in Nlite is to remove database components. That must be whats going on TinyXP.

Also, is Tiny XP legal? Should it be talked about here?

I know with Nlite you basically use your own XP,2000 or Vista install so I have no problems with it. I've used it a lot and like I said the Vista version to.

Instead of working on TinyXP which I doubt yourll get to work as once the stuff is removed you cant get it back a lot of time, why not create a topic/thread on the best Nlite options?

Great Idea.

Perhaps this should be closed in light of a more pointed thread.

[headkaze]

The point of this thread was to install a lite version of XP without the Microsoft Jet, and then find out what is necessary (ie. What files are needed) to get it running again. If we figure out what files are needed we can create an install package to restore Microsoft Jet so GameEx can run.

There have been a few posts with the error "The 'Microsoft.Jet.OLEDB.4.0' provider is not registered on the local machine.". So I wanted to find out a way to fix that.

I don't think TinyXP is illegal as long as you own a license of XP Pro on the machine you intend to install it, which I do. So I will be installing it under a virtual environment just for testing.

It's still worth doing a tutorial on installing XP using NLite but it can be a bit tricky to know what to remove and what to keep. The idea of using TinyXP was to take a well known stripped down version and use that for the testing. Afterall TinyXP is more popular among cab users than NLite because it's easier to install.

[headkaze]

Brian: Check out these files here. What happens when you manually copy the Jet 4.0 files from your full XP install over to the TinyXP install can you get GameEx to run that way? If you can then we can create an installer for those files.