Brian Hoffman Posted July 7, 2007 Share Posted July 7, 2007 Whats up guys... and galsHere is a video I created that shows how to setup daphne and get it working in gameex.I really hope this is able to help the community. Any feed back is appreciated. If you guys like I can create othersBrian HoffmanVideoLinkhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQ36yKQh7rg 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu1983 Posted July 8, 2007 Share Posted July 8, 2007 Cool, this should be handy, my new hard drive arrived so I'm finally ready to give daphne a blast, I've been working on sorting out my PSX roms for the last few days but hopefully I'll have some free time for daphne tomorrow afternoon... I'll PM you about the PSX discs soon too Stu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jthompson Posted July 8, 2007 Share Posted July 8, 2007 Whats up guys... and galsHere is a video I created that shows how to setup daphne and get it working in gameex.I really hope this is able to help the community. Any feed back is appreciated. If you guys like I can create othersBrian HoffmanVideoLinkhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQ36yKQh7rgGood job on the vid. I see you are also using the older version of the Daphne loader. Have you tried the newer beta version 1.0 of Daphne? I am wondering if it is the cause of some people's troubles as it seems that the folks over at Daphne are in cahoots with Digital Liesure now. You can now purchase and download DL, DL2, Space Ace, etc from Digital Liesure using a link in Daphne Loader. Is the new version of Daphne crippled so to speak, to keep people from using bootlegged copies of DL, DL2, Space Ace, etc, etc? I see on the FAQ section over at Daphne that someone asks, "Q: I've used DaphneLoader to auto-download Dragon's Lair, Dragon's Lair 2, Space Ace, or Thayer's Quest. Does a valid DVD have to be in the drive every time I want to play this game? A: No, you only have to insert DVD the first time you want to play the game. The exception to this rule is if you move or modify the files that were created during the DVD authentication process."I, like you, am already using and have set up my Daphne ver .99.7 and it works flawlessly so I have no reason to upgrade, but I thought I might mention this to the very few people that may be using a bootleg copy of these games that the new version of Daphne may not work for them. I of course do not condone the use of said games, but am merely offering a possible explaination as to why their setup may not be working as they thought it should.Jay T Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Hoffman Posted July 8, 2007 Author Share Posted July 8, 2007 Good job on the vid. I see you are also using the older version of the Daphne loader. Have you tried the newer beta version 1.0 of Daphne? I am wondering if it is the cause of some people's troubles as it seems that the folks over at Daphne are in cahoots with Digital Liesure now. You can now purchase and download DL, DL2, Space Ace, etc from Digital Liesure using a link in Daphne Loader. Is the new version of Daphne crippled so to speak, to keep people from using bootlegged copies of DL, DL2, Space Ace, etc, etc? I see on the FAQ section over at Daphne that someone asks, "Q: I've used DaphneLoader to auto-download Dragon's Lair, Dragon's Lair 2, Space Ace, or Thayer's Quest. Does a valid DVD have to be in the drive every time I want to play this game? A: No, you only have to insert DVD the first time you want to play the game. The exception to this rule is if you move or modify the files that were created during the DVD authentication process."I, like you, am already using and have set up my Daphne ver .99.7 and it works flawlessly so I have no reason to upgrade, but I thought I might mention this to the very few people that may be using a bootleg copy of these games that the new version of Daphne may not work for them. I of course do not condone the use of said games, but am merely offering a possible explaination as to why their setup may not be working as they thought it should.Jay TYes I'am using 99.7 I posted the download for the build in another topic. Cant remember which one.I too have tried the new 1.0 and am nt sure on if any command line paramaters have changed or if it treats the framefiles diffrently.But I suppose it COULD work.I recommend daphne build 99.7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vguzz Posted August 28, 2007 Share Posted August 28, 2007 I'm new to Game Ex and have been installing all of my rom sets. I have got hung up pretty badly on Daphne Loader, however. I've been at it for countless hours and have made some progress such as getting Dragon's Lair to run. I've been reading all the posts, and while helpful, I'm still a little stuck. The game doesn't have the scoreboard or options for unlimited lives. I am using the latest registered version of Game ex. Here is a list of my current settings that have brought me this far.use daphne: yesuse Gamepad: yesDaphne.exe: daphne.exeDaphne Snap/Video path: M:\DAPHNE PROJECT\videoDaphne Image path: M:\DAPHNE PROJECT\imagesDaphne Cabinet Image Path: don't haveDaphne Title Image Path: Don't haveDaphne Marquee Image path: Don't HaveDaphne Panel Image Path: Don't haveDaphne Options: vldp -fullscreen -x 1024 -y 768 -nohwaccelGame 1 Enabled: YesGame 1 Rom: dle20Game 1 Name: Dragon's LairGame 1 Options: DaphneLoader.exe lair vldp -framefile roms\lair\lair.txt -blank_searches -min_seek_delay 1000 -seek_frames_per_ms 151 -homedir . -bank 0 11111001 -bank 1 00100111 -noserversend -sound_buffer 2048 -fullscreen -x 1024 -y 768Any Help would be Greatly appreciated.Vince Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Hoffman Posted August 28, 2007 Author Share Posted August 28, 2007 I'm new to Game Ex and have been installing all of my rom sets. I have got hung up pretty badly on Daphne Loader, however. I've been at it for countless hours and have made some progress such as getting Dragon's Lair to run. I've been reading all the posts, and while helpful, I'm still a little stuck. The game doesn't have the scoreboard or options for unlimited lives. I am using the latest registered version of Game ex. Here is a list of my current settings that have brought me this far.use daphne: yesuse Gamepad: yesDaphne.exe: daphne.exeDaphne Snap/Video path: M:\DAPHNE PROJECT\videoDaphne Image path: M:\DAPHNE PROJECT\imagesDaphne Cabinet Image Path: don't haveDaphne Title Image Path: Don't haveDaphne Marquee Image path: Don't HaveDaphne Panel Image Path: Don't haveDaphne Options: vldp -fullscreen -x 1024 -y 768 -nohwaccelGame 1 Enabled: YesGame 1 Rom: dle20Game 1 Name: Dragon's LairGame 1 Options: DaphneLoader.exe lair vldp -framefile roms\lair\lair.txt -blank_searches -min_seek_delay 1000 -seek_frames_per_ms 151 -homedir . -bank 0 11111001 -bank 1 00100111 -noserversend -sound_buffer 2048 -fullscreen -x 1024 -y 768Any Help would be Greatly appreciated.Vinceyour game 1 options are completely wrong. just use this -framefile "roms\lair\lair.txt" and put the full path example - framefile c:\daphne\roms\lair\lair.txtIf you you are courious why game 1 options are wrong... First Daphneloader does NOT plat games it simply launches daphne.exe... secondly look at the rest of the config.. Gameex will build the command based on the daphne settings..Yo have not included all the setting but I know them. First gameex askes the daphne path.. Example..C:\Daphne\ Then it asks the daphne.exe... So now your command looks like this... c:\daphne\daphne.exe now you slecet your game rom...DLE20...Now it looks like c:\daphne\daphne.exe dle20 (now it adds the daphne options) Example c:\daphne\daphne.exe dle20 vldp -fullscreen -x 1024 -y 768 -nohwaccel.. (Now it adds the daphne options)c:\daphne\daphne.exe dle20 vldp -fullscreen -x 1024 -y 768 -nohwaccel -framefile "c:\daphne\roms\lair\lair.txt" (Now you have a complete command line...Essentelly you are trying to run it like this...c:\daphne\daphne.exe dle20 vldp -fullscreen -x 1024 -y 768 -nohwaccel DaphneLoader.exe lair vldp -framefile roms\lair\lair.txt -blank_searches -min_seek_delay 1000 -seek_frames_per_ms 151 -homedir . -bank 0 11111001 -bank 1 00100111 -noserversend -sound_buffer 2048 -fullscreen -x 1024 -y 768Confused?Like I said... For game 1 options..Just use the -framefile (with full path) and see if it works.. If not look at the daphne log and it will say why.. maybe a missing rom.. If you have spaces in your path use "".. Also in the gameex programs group there is a runlastgame.bat right click it and edit and you will see how gameex is trying to launch daphne...Let me know how it is going and I help u out.Oh yeah and BTW: the option for the scoreboard is -useoverlaysb2 (put this in game 1 options... This switch only works on space ace and dragons lair 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vguzz Posted August 28, 2007 Share Posted August 28, 2007 Confused?Like I said... For game 1 options..Just use the -framefile (with full path) and see if it works.. If not look at the daphne log and it will say why.. maybe a missing rom.. If you have spaces in your path use "".. Also in the gameex programs group there is a runlastgame.bat right click it and edit and you will see how gameex is trying to launch daphne...Let me know how it is going and I help u out.Oh yeah and BTW: the option for the scoreboard is -useoverlaysb2 (put this in game 1 options... This switch only works on space ace and dragons lair 1Thank you so much. I will give this a try when I get home from work. After doing some research and finding the Daphne wiki page i discovered there was an exact science to the command line. My Final question is how can I make Dragon's lair play with infinite lives using the above command line you gave me? is it a matter of making a 1 into a 0 if so which one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Hoffman Posted August 28, 2007 Author Share Posted August 28, 2007 Confused?Like I said... For game 1 options..Just use the -framefile (with full path) and see if it works.. If not look at the daphne log and it will say why.. maybe a missing rom.. If you have spaces in your path use "".. Also in the gameex programs group there is a runlastgame.bat right click it and edit and you will see how gameex is trying to launch daphne...Let me know how it is going and I help u out.Oh yeah and BTW: the option for the scoreboard is -useoverlaysb2 (put this in game 1 options... This switch only works on space ace and dragons lair 1Thank you so much. I will give this a try when I get home from work. After doing some research and finding the Daphne wiki page i discovered there was an exact science to the command line. My Final question is how can I make Dragon's lair play with infinite lives using the above command line you gave me? is it a matter of making a 1 into a 0 if so which oneYou best bet is enable it in the loader.. then view what command option it uses to enable it... Then paste it in gameex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnmax Posted August 29, 2007 Share Posted August 29, 2007 You best bet is enable it in the loader.. then view what command option it uses to enable it... Then paste it in gameexI had a problem with Daphne in GameEx where it would only load DL2. I added the quotes in the config, now it will load a game I select, but when I exit that game and try to load another, it will re load the last game played. Any idea why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vguzz Posted August 29, 2007 Share Posted August 29, 2007 I got Dragon's lair working now and Cobra command as well using the command line copy paste method. Dragon's lair 2 doesn't run though. This is what I haveGame 2 Rom: lair2Game 2 Name : Dragon's Lair 2: TimewarpGame 2 Options: M:\DAPHNE PROJECT\daphne.exe lair2 vldp -framefile "M:\DAPHNE PROJECT\framefile.txt" -fullscreen -x 1280 -y 1024 -nohwaccel Space Ace the game seem to play too fast with daphne as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Hoffman Posted August 29, 2007 Author Share Posted August 29, 2007 I got Dragon's lair working now and Cobra command as well using the command line copy paste method. Dragon's lair 2 doesn't run though. This is what I haveGame 2 Rom: lair2Game 2 Name : Dragon's Lair 2: TimewarpGame 2 Options: M:\DAPHNE PROJECT\daphne.exe lair2 vldp -framefile "M:\DAPHNE PROJECT\framefile.txt" -fullscreen -x 1280 -y 1024 -nohwaccel Space Ace the game seem to play too fast with daphne as wellWhat does the daphne log say(located in the daphne folder) My guess is incorrect rom or a missing .bin file... Ive seen it many times... Just set you game options to ... -framefile "M:\DAPHNE PROJECT\framefile.txt" -fullscreen -x 1280 -y 1024 -nohwaccel Remove the M:\DAPHNE PROJECT\daphne.exe lair2 vldpLet me know what happens Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vguzz Posted August 29, 2007 Share Posted August 29, 2007 worked perfectly! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Hoffman Posted August 29, 2007 Author Share Posted August 29, 2007 worked perfectly!Awesome Thanks for letting me know.. I can rest easy now..heheSerously though.. Im glad to help Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vguzz Posted August 29, 2007 Share Posted August 29, 2007 thanks for all the help so far. I looked at a lot of multiple emulator front ends but so far Game EX has been the best one by far. I'm building a 4 player silk stick controlled system that will be usable with any high def TV. I'm going to have more questions.. next one being can I add a latency command to make space ace have better timing and scene times? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loris Cortina Posted August 29, 2007 Share Posted August 29, 2007 Please can you send me the old Daphne version 0.99.7 in the site the only available is the new 1.0 beta. fabio DOT borsoi AT gmail DOT comThanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Hoffman Posted August 29, 2007 Author Share Posted August 29, 2007 Please can you send me the old Daphne version 0.99.7 in the site the only available is the new 1.0 beta. fabio DOT borsoi AT gmail DOT comThankshttp://www.daphne-emu.com/download/daphne-0.99.7-win32.zipBtw: you can put your email here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnmax Posted September 5, 2007 Share Posted September 5, 2007 I had a problem with Daphne in GameEx where it would only load DL2. I added the quotes in the config, now it will load a game I select, but when I exit that game and try to load another, it will re load the last game played. Any idea why?Now it will only load dragons lair enhanced 2.0. I can manually run the daphne loader and it will load any game I select. But from within Gameex it will only load DLE20, no matter what game I choose. I've triple checked the framefile paths, rom paths, and every other setting. I've tried copying and pasting the command lines run into gameex, no good. Tried Quotes, no good. I've tried everything I have found here. I have Daphne setup to run in the External apps, but I'd like to have it integrated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Hoffman Posted September 5, 2007 Author Share Posted September 5, 2007 Now it will only load dragons lair enhanced 2.0. I can manually run the daphne loader and it will load any game I select. But from within Gameex it will only load DLE20, no matter what game I choose. I've triple checked the framefile paths, rom paths, and every other setting. I've tried copying and pasting the command lines run into gameex, no good. Tried Quotes, no good. I've tried everything I have found here. I have Daphne setup to run in the External apps, but I'd like to have it integrated.What version of daphne are you using?Did you watch the config video?you are running the config via the command line.example Daphne.exe DLE20 -vldp -framefile "c:\daphne\mpeg\dl2\dl2.txt"this calls in order the PROGRAM,THE ROM,Virtual Laserdisk setting, Frame file locationNow there are alot more options but this will get it going.. It also is using DLE20 as my rom...If you want to change what rom is calls Id start by specifiying the rom I want to use maybe like Daphne.exe lair -vldp -framefile "c:\daphne\mpeg\dl2\dl2.txt"Also It can be integrated in gameex there is a daphne section in the advanced configuration.DO NOT PASTE THE WHOLE LINE (Daphne.exe lair -vldp -framefile "c:\daphne\mpeg\dl2\dl2.txt") in game # options.. There was a daphne thread where someone said to do that and has been causing problems ever since.Gameex will build the command line based on the paths and options already defined...Gameex comes with a few example of working configs... Just chane the paths.. If you do not understand after watching the video plase ask and I will clairify.Brian Hoffman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnmax Posted September 8, 2007 Share Posted September 8, 2007 Yeah I followed the video. It seems so easy. All my paths are right. But for instance I tried to select DLE20 from within GameEx. The log shows:15:47:57.3 9/8/2007: Running: cmd.exe /c C: C:\daphne2\DaphneLoader.exe dle20 -fullscreen -x 640 -y 480 -nohwaccel -vldp -framefile C:\daphne2\dldvdrom\dl_framefile.txtBut Space Ace runs, not DL! All my games run fine in DaphneLoader (my daphne version is 0.99.7 pre5). My daphne log shows:--Command line is: C:\daphne2\daphne.exe sae vldp -framefile C:\daphne2\sadvdrom\ace_framefile.txt -fullscreen -bank 0 10011001 -bank 1 00100011 So why is gameex loading SAE when it is set to load DLE20?It seems Gameex is loading the last game i have loaded via the Daphne Loader (outside of Gameex). Oh my Game ex is version 8.81 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Hoffman Posted September 8, 2007 Author Share Posted September 8, 2007 Yeah I followed the video. It seems so easy. All my paths are right. But for instance I tried to select DLE20 from within GameEx. The log shows:15:47:57.3 9/8/2007: Running: cmd.exe /c C: C:\daphne2\DaphneLoader.exe dle20 -fullscreen -x 640 -y 480 -nohwaccel -vldp -framefile C:\daphne2\dldvdrom\dl_framefile.txtBut Space Ace runs, not DL! All my games run fine in DaphneLoader (my daphne version is 0.99.7 pre5). My daphne log shows:--Command line is: C:\daphne2\daphne.exe sae vldp -framefile C:\daphne2\sadvdrom\ace_framefile.txt -fullscreen -bank 0 10011001 -bank 1 00100011 So why is gameex loading SAE when it is set to load DLE20?It seems Gameex is loading the last game i have loaded via the Daphne Loader (outside of Gameex). Oh my Game ex is version 8.81Look at your command line DL nisnt working because you are trying to run it with the loader.exe... Even the loader calls daphne.exe.. C:\daphne2\DaphneLoader.exe dle20 Space ace is working because you are using daphne.exe...look C:\daphne2\daphne.exe sae vldp Happy gaming Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnmax Posted September 8, 2007 Share Posted September 8, 2007 Just to try, I exited Gameex. I ran daphne loader. Then ran Cliff Hanger. Exited Daphne. Openend Gameex. Selected Dragons Lair from the Laserdisc Games menu. Guess what- it loaded Cliff Hanger!!!So it is just loading the last game Daphne loader loads. Hmmmm...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnmax Posted September 8, 2007 Share Posted September 8, 2007 OMG!!! Can I say Duh??? I was calling the loader instead of Daphne.exe. You are a genius Brian! Man talk about a brain fart.Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vguzz Posted September 11, 2007 Share Posted September 11, 2007 I am having the same problem as where every time install Dragon's Lair 2 after cobra command and Dragon's Lair 1 everything goes hay wire. Maybe you could show me as well. here my command lines for everythingGame Rom 1: dle 20Game Name: Dragon's LairCommand Options: daphne.exe dle20 vldp -framefile "M:\DAPHNE\roms\lair\lair.txt" -fullscreen -useoverlaysb 1 -bank 0 11011000 -bank 1 01110011 -x 1280 -y 1024 -nohwaccel Game Rom 2: lair2Game name Dragon's lair 2: TimewarpCommand Options: daphne.exe lair2 vldp -framefile "M:\DAPHNE\framefile.txt" -fullscreen -x 1280 -y 1024 -nohwaccel Game Rom 3: cobraabGame name: Cobra CommandCommand Line: -framefile "M:\DAPHNE\framefile.txt" -fullscreen -bank 0 00000000 -bank 1 00001100 -x 1280 -y 1024 -nohwaccelany help would be appreciated. I did get pinmame allfigured out if anyone wants help hah. That was a good workout too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Hoffman Posted September 11, 2007 Author Share Posted September 11, 2007 I am having the same problem as where every time install Dragon's Lair 2 after cobra command and Dragon's Lair 1 everything goes hay wire. Maybe you could show me as well. here my command lines for everythingGame Rom 1: dle 20Game Name: Dragon's LairCommand Options: daphne.exe dle20 vldp -framefile "M:\DAPHNE\roms\lair\lair.txt" -fullscreen -useoverlaysb 1 -bank 0 11011000 -bank 1 01110011 -x 1280 -y 1024 -nohwaccel Game Rom 2: lair2Game name Dragon's lair 2: TimewarpCommand Options: daphne.exe lair2 vldp -framefile "M:\DAPHNE\framefile.txt" -fullscreen -x 1280 -y 1024 -nohwaccel Game Rom 3: cobraabGame name: Cobra CommandCommand Line: -framefile "M:\DAPHNE\framefile.txt" -fullscreen -bank 0 00000000 -bank 1 00001100 -x 1280 -y 1024 -nohwaccelany help would be appreciated. I did get pinmame allfigured out if anyone wants help hah. That was a good workout tooYour all messed up First off you will notice that the daphne section of gameex askes you where the path and daphne exe is.. Then it shows global game options like vlpd fullscreen etc.. It also asks ROM name. It does this for a reason... (IT BUILDS THE COMMAND FOR YOU) There is NO I repeat NO need to put the whole command in Game Options.Before you even get to the game configuration part of Gameex this is what you haveC:\Emulators\Daphne\Daphne.exe vldp -fullscreen -x 640 -y 480 -nohwaccelNotice the only thing missing is THE CALLED ROM and FRAME FILE INFOThats where the next section comes in... It asks ROM NAME (the called ROM) in our case its LAIR..Now our command looks like this C:\Emulators\Daphne\Daphne.exe LAIR vldp -fullscreen -x 640 -y 480 -nohwaccelNEXT is game options this should be just the frame file info and game specific options like -useoverlaysb2.. so put this in gamee options(-framefile "M:\DAPHNE\roms\lair\lair.txt" -fullscreen -useoverlaysb 1 -bank 0 11011000 -bank 1 01110011 -x 1280 -y 1024)Now your command looks like thisC:\Emulators\Daphne\Daphne.exe LAIR vldp (-framefile "M:\DAPHNE\roms\lair\lair.txt" -fullscreen -useoverlaysb 1 -bank 0 11011000 -bank 1 01110011 -x 1280 -y 1024 -nohwaccel-------------Got that?....Moving onIf you are specifying resolutions in your game options you might consider removing it from the default game options.Otherwise you will end up with somthing like this. (This is because its being specified in game options and your command line). You will also notice -nohwaccell is being called twice. Keep this in mind-- I wouldnt want to call diffrent resolutions so either take the out of the default options or the game options.... C:\Emulators\Daphne\Daphne.exe LAIR vldp (-framefile "M:\DAPHNE\roms\lair\lair.txt" -fullscreen -useoverlaysb 1 -bank 0 11011000 -bank 1 01110011 -x 1280 -y 1024 -nohwaccel -fullscreen -x 640 -y 480 -nohwaccel----------------Personally my game options for DL only include.-framefile "M:\DAPHNE\roms\lair\lair.txt" -fullscreen -useoverlaysb 1Why you ask.. because all other switches are built by the means specified above..----------------Last but not least. (taken from your post)Command Options: daphne.exe lair2 vldp -framefile "M:\DAPHNE\framefile.txt" -fullscreen -x 1280 -y 1024 -nohwaccel Game Rom 3: cobraabGame name: Cobra CommandCommand Line: -framefile "M:\DAPHNE\framefile.txt" -fullscreen -bank 0 00000000 -bank 1 00001100 -x 1280 -y 1024 -nohwaccelIt appears you are calling the same framefile for both games "M:\DAPHNE\framefile.txt" Ok so what the framfile does is tell daphne where the video is and what the starting frame is. Since I doubt they share the same video this is wrong.... It looks like you got DL1 right though.. It also looks generic.. Usually they are named according to the game they are for.... This makes it easy to know what your doing..Hope this helps...Dont worry you are not alone in this Ive explaind this a hundered times before helping others get this setup and I havent come across a person yet that we couldnt get this going.. Maybe its time for me to write a PDF tutorial.Also I put together a pinmame / visual pinball tutorial with all required files located at the main page... I hope you saw it..Its pretty good... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vguzz Posted September 12, 2007 Share Posted September 12, 2007 Brian. Thanks so much for helping me with Daphne . I literally printed out what you said and highlighted everything. I feel like i could teach a class on it now hah.. I wasn't fully aware that the command line was being created as i filled in blanks with the different games. The problem with Dragon's Lair 2 was that when i updated my framefile location it wasn't showing me my changes when the command line appeared before the game launch. Once I realized exactly what I was supposed to do, I finally noticed and was able to make the corrections manually. Daphne is finally under control! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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