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External app fails but no errors - others work fine

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This probelm started when I upgraded to 6.71. I have since upgraded to 6.72 which the problem still exists. The issue is when I run House of the Dead 3 through GameEx, the screen does dark, flickers a bit then the applications list reappears. I then exit GameEx and the house of the dead 3 is running in a "paused" mode on the taskbar. If I click on the task it goes full screen and the game starts???? HOTD3 works perfectly outside of GameEx. Every game I have is working perfectly within GameEx except for this one which I have uninstalled and tried fresh to no avail. My GameEx config has not changed.

The debug list shows no probelms what so ever.

Help or ideas please?!

Thanks!

Deadly

Tom Speirs GameEx God (Top Rank)

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This probelm started when I upgraded to 6.71. I have since upgraded to 6.72 which the problem still exists. The issue is when I run House of the Dead 3 through GameEx, the screen does dark, flickers a bit then the applications list reappears. I then exit GameEx and the house of the dead 3 is running in a "paused" mode on the taskbar. If I click on the task it goes full screen and the game starts???? HOTD3 works perfectly outside of GameEx. Every game I have is working perfectly within GameEx except for this one which I have uninstalled and tried fresh to no avail. My GameEx config has not changed.

The debug list shows no probelms what so ever.

Help or ideas please?!

Thanks!

Deadly

No ideas at the moment. Yourll need to post your config

PS. Sounds like your using a launcher to launch house of the dead. Is that right?

You make it sound like this issue occured when you upgraded GameEx from an earlier version, and that it was previously working. Is that deffinitly the case?

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Hi Tom,

Yes this definently happened after the upgrade. I have two arcades and now they both do it.

One system uses XP Pro and the other uses XP Media Center edition. The house of the dead 3 has a start menu that pops up and you have to click "Play Game" at which the screen goes black, GameEx menu shows up again and once exited out of GameEx House of the dead 3 is minimized to the tray. Strange. I was hoping it was an option I maybe changed in the config side but beings as I have two arcades and they both exhibit this behaviour I'm certain the upgrade changed something. Headkaze's option of show desktop was set to true already. I uninstalled GameEx entirely and installed fresh. Now the game will actually start up but I notice the screen has a flicker with a quick periodic flash "like blipping" if you will. When I press esc the game does end but the screen goes black and basically stays hung. I have to press alt F4 which kills gameex and takes me back to the desktop. Again this is the only game it happens to and this is the only game that has a launcher. Here's the log.txt:.

20:16:28.7 9/3/2006: GameEx: Version 6.76: Starting Log

20:16:28.7 9/3/2006: Operating System Platform: Win32NT

20:16:28.7 9/3/2006: Operating System Name: Windows XP

20:16:28.7 9/3/2006: Operating System Version: 5.1.2600

20:16:28.7 9/3/2006: Checking for versions of .net Framework installed

20:16:28.7 9/3/2006: .net Framework 1.0 Installed

20:16:28.7 9/3/2006: .net Framework 1.1 Installed

20:16:28.7 9/3/2006: .net Framework 2.0 Installed

20:16:28.7 9/3/2006: Genuine Intel® CPU 2.00GHz

20:16:28.7 9/3/2006: 3.78Ghz - 2 Cores or CPU's

20:16:28.7 9/3/2006: Running Randomize()

20:16:28.7 9/3/2006: Checking for applications to Launch On Startup

20:16:28.7 9/3/2006: Initialising Video/MNG DLL's

20:16:28.7 9/3/2006: Running Misc startup tasks

20:16:28.7 9/3/2006: Setting Menu types

20:16:28.7 9/3/2006: Opening Configuration File

20:16:28.7 9/3/2006: Getting Configuration Values

20:16:28.7 9/3/2006: Using Theme: NexGen

20:16:28.7 9/3/2006: Checking for alternate Image Directory for Theme: NexGen

20:16:28.8 9/3/2006: Launching HideOS.exe

20:16:28.8 9/3/2006: Hiding Taskbar

20:16:28.8 9/3/2006: Is Media Center running?

20:16:28.8 9/3/2006: Checking/Creating LCD Registry values

20:16:28.8 9/3/2006: Check Media Center Exit/Start Mode

20:16:28.8 9/3/2006: Media Center Mode 0

20:16:28.8 9/3/2006: Text/Language: English

20:16:28.8 9/3/2006: Applying Language/Text

20:16:28.9 9/3/2006: Snap Delay set to: 2

20:16:28.9 9/3/2006: Get other settings

20:16:29.0 9/3/2006: Desktop set to Hide ICONS and set Background to Black

20:16:29.0 9/3/2006: Backing up Registry Wallpaper Settings

20:16:29.0 9/3/2006: Set: Find emulator artwork on best match basis

20:16:29.0 9/3/2006: SlikStik support enabled

20:16:29.0 9/3/2006: Using DirectInput for keyboard input

20:16:29.0 9/3/2006: Start work for Form

20:16:29.0 9/3/2006: Getting Original Screen Size

20:16:29.1 9/3/2006: Loading ICON

20:16:29.4 9/3/2006: Initializing Component

20:16:29.6 9/3/2006: Initialising Bass Audio Library

20:16:29.8 9/3/2006: Loading default loading screen

20:16:29.8 9/3/2006: Loading Custom Emulators

20:16:29.9 9/3/2006: Using 2D Animations

20:16:29.9 9/3/2006: Using General Font: Trebuchet MS

20:16:29.9 9/3/2006: Using Title Font: Trebuchet MS

20:16:29.9 9/3/2006: Starting GameExtender Publisher

20:16:29.9 9/3/2006: Initialising DirectDraw

20:16:30.1 9/3/2006: Creating DirectDraw Device

20:16:30.2 9/3/2006: Setting Resolution to 800x600 32 bit color

20:16:30.2 9/3/2006: Creating DirectDraw Surfaces

20:16:30.2 9/3/2006: Creating Primary Surface - Full Screen Mode

20:16:30.2 9/3/2006: Creating Back Buffer

20:16:30.3 9/3/2006: Version 2 Theme being used. Loading.

20:16:30.3 9/3/2006: Loading Button Data

20:16:30.3 9/3/2006: Loading Font Data

20:16:30.3 9/3/2006: Loading Layout Data

20:16:30.3 9/3/2006: Loading Taskbar Data

20:16:30.3 9/3/2006: Loading graphic surfaces

20:16:30.4 9/3/2006: Creating Surfaces Misc and Dialogs

20:16:30.4 9/3/2006: Creating Surface Volume

20:16:30.5 9/3/2006: Creating Surfaces Arrows

20:16:30.5 9/3/2006: Creating Surfaces GameEXlogo Text

20:16:30.5 9/3/2006: Creating Surfaces Toolbar

20:16:30.6 9/3/2006: Creating Surfaces Backgrounds

20:16:33.5 9/3/2006: Creating Surfaces Toolbar Controls

20:16:33.5 9/3/2006: Creating Surfaces GameEx Logo

20:16:33.5 9/3/2006: Creating Surfaces Home & Exit

20:16:33.6 9/3/2006: Creating Surfaces Snaps

20:16:33.6 9/3/2006: Creating Surfaces Menu and List Bars

20:16:33.8 9/3/2006: Creating Fonts

20:16:33.8 9/3/2006: Creating Menu Font

20:16:34.0 9/3/2006: Creating Game Font

20:16:34.0 9/3/2006: Creating Font Black

20:16:34.1 9/3/2006: Creating Font Black Small

20:16:34.2 9/3/2006: Creating Game Font Faded

20:16:34.2 9/3/2006: Creating Title Font

20:16:34.3 9/3/2006: Restoring Title Font From Cache

20:16:35.9 9/3/2006: Fonts Created Succesfully

20:16:36.0 9/3/2006: Initialising Windows Media Player Component

20:16:37.2 9/3/2006: MAME Path is: h:\mame32

20:16:37.2 9/3/2006: daphne Path is: H:\Daphne

20:16:37.2 9/3/2006: daphne EXE file is: Daphne.exe

20:16:37.2 9/3/2006: Use daphne on. Daphne.exe will launch games

20:16:37.2 9/3/2006: MAME EXE file is: mame32.exe

20:16:37.3 9/3/2006: ROM Path is: h:\Mame32\roms

20:16:37.3 9/3/2006: Catver.ini Not Found

20:16:37.3 9/3/2006: History.dat is located at: H:\Mame32\history.dat

20:16:37.3 9/3/2006: nplayers.ini Not Found

20:16:37.3 9/3/2006: MAMEinfo.dat is located at: H:\Mame32\mameinfo.dat

20:16:37.3 9/3/2006: Loading Controls.ini map file

20:16:37.4 9/3/2006: Snap Path is: h:\Mame32\snap

20:16:37.4 9/3/2006: AVI Snap Path: Not Found

20:16:37.4 9/3/2006: Flyer Path is: h:\Mame32\flyers

20:16:37.4 9/3/2006: Cabinet Path is: h:\Mame32\cabinets

20:16:37.4 9/3/2006: Title Path is: h:\Mame32\titles

20:16:37.4 9/3/2006: Panel Path: Not Found

20:16:37.4 9/3/2006: Icon Path is: h:\Mame32\icons

20:16:37.4 9/3/2006: Marquee Path is: h:\Mame32\marquees

20:16:37.4 9/3/2006: MAME CMD options: -triplebuffer -nowindow -joy

20:16:37.4 9/3/2006: Attempting to load game list

20:16:38.1 9/3/2006: Loading last used Game List

20:16:38.1 9/3/2006: Loading Start Page

20:16:38.1 9/3/2006: Setting Music Volume

20:16:38.1 9/3/2006: Creating DirectSound Device

20:16:38.2 9/3/2006: Trying: Primary Sound Driver

20:16:38.2 9/3/2006: Loading Sound Files

20:16:38.3 9/3/2006: DirectSound Device Created Successfully

20:16:38.3 9/3/2006: Creating ICONS

20:16:38.3 9/3/2006: Restoring Cached ICONS from File

20:16:39.0 9/3/2006: Initialising DirectInput for Gamepad support

20:16:39.1 9/3/2006: Unable to create a joystick device

20:16:39.1 9/3/2006: Initialising DirectInput for Keyboard support

20:16:39.2 9/3/2006: Playing intro sound file

20:16:39.2 9/3/2006: Initializing MCE Remote

20:16:39.2 9/3/2006: Initialization OK! Starting GameEx!

20:16:39.2 9/3/2006: Testing Main Loop Once: Processing Frame

20:16:39.5 9/3/2006: Testing Main Loop Once: Main Loop ran successfully

20:20:39.2 9/3/2006: Starting Attract Mode

20:20:39.6 9/3/2006: Running: cmd.exe /c h: h:\mame32\mame32.exe apb1 -rompath h:\Mame32\roms -triplebuffer -nowindow -joy -volume -32

20:22:42.6 9/3/2006: Running: cmd.exe /c h: h:\mame32\mame32.exe snowbrob -rompath h:\Mame32\roms -triplebuffer -nowindow -joy -volume -32

20:24:45.1 9/3/2006: Running: cmd.exe /c h: h:\mame32\mame32.exe silentdj -rompath h:\Mame32\roms -triplebuffer -nowindow -joy -volume -32

20:26:47.6 9/3/2006: Running: cmd.exe /c h: h:\mame32\mame32.exe marukodq -rompath h:\Mame32\roms -triplebuffer -nowindow -joy -volume -32

20:28:50.5 9/3/2006: Running: cmd.exe /c h: h:\mame32\mame32.exe cosmicg -rompath h:\Mame32\roms -triplebuffer -nowindow -joy -volume -32

20:30:53.3 9/3/2006: Running: cmd.exe /c h: h:\mame32\mame32.exe firetpbl -rompath h:\Mame32\roms -triplebuffer -nowindow -joy -volume -32

20:32:56.1 9/3/2006: Running: cmd.exe /c h: h:\mame32\mame32.exe thief -rompath h:\Mame32\roms -triplebuffer -nowindow -joy -volume -32

20:34:58.9 9/3/2006: Running: cmd.exe /c h: h:\mame32\mame32.exe espradej -rompath h:\Mame32\roms -triplebuffer -nowindow -joy -volume -32

20:37:01.6 9/3/2006: Running: cmd.exe /c h: h:\mame32\mame32.exe highsplt -rompath h:\Mame32\roms -triplebuffer -nowindow -joy -volume -32

20:39:04.4 9/3/2006: Running: cmd.exe /c h: h:\mame32\mame32.exe gberet -rompath h:\Mame32\roms -triplebuffer -nowindow -joy -volume -32

20:41:07.0 9/3/2006: Running: cmd.exe /c h: h:\mame32\mame32.exe pulstar -rompath h:\Mame32\roms -triplebuffer -nowindow -joy -volume -32

20:43:09.4 9/3/2006: Running: cmd.exe /c h: h:\mame32\mame32.exe rugrats -rompath h:\Mame32\roms -triplebuffer -nowindow -joy -volume -32

20:45:12.2 9/3/2006: Running: cmd.exe /c h: h:\mame32\mame32.exe kaiteik -rompath h:\Mame32\roms -triplebuffer -nowindow -joy -volume -32

20:47:14.8 9/3/2006: Running: cmd.exe /c h: h:\mame32\mame32.exe pushman -rompath h:\Mame32\roms -triplebuffer -nowindow -joy -volume -32

20:49:17.6 9/3/2006: Running: cmd.exe /c h: h:\mame32\mame32.exe ldrun2 -rompath h:\Mame32\roms -triplebuffer -nowindow -joy -volume -32

20:51:20.3 9/3/2006: Running: cmd.exe /c h: h:\mame32\mame32.exe rtypepj -rompath h:\Mame32\roms -triplebuffer -nowindow -joy -volume -32

20:53:22.8 9/3/2006: Running: cmd.exe /c h: h:\mame32\mame32.exe chugokur -rompath h:\Mame32\roms -triplebuffer -nowindow -joy -volume -32

20:55:25.2 9/3/2006: Running: cmd.exe /c h: h:\mame32\mame32.exe xxmissio -rompath h:\Mame32\roms -triplebuffer -nowindow -joy -volume -32

20:57:28.0 9/3/2006: Running: cmd.exe /c h: h:\mame32\mame32.exe sonofphx -rompath h:\Mame32\roms -triplebuffer -nowindow -joy -volume -32

20:59:30.8 9/3/2006: Running: cmd.exe /c h: h:\mame32\mame32.exe aurail1 -rompath h:\Mame32\roms -triplebuffer -nowindow -joy -volume -32

21:01:33.4 9/3/2006: Running: cmd.exe /c h: h:\mame32\mame32.exe circusc -rompath h:\Mame32\roms -triplebuffer -nowindow -joy -volume -32

21:03:36.1 9/3/2006: Running: cmd.exe /c h: h:\mame32\mame32.exe tubep -rompath h:\Mame32\roms -triplebuffer -nowindow -joy -volume -32

21:05:38.6 9/3/2006: Running: cmd.exe /c h: h:\mame32\mame32.exe brutforc -rompath h:\Mame32\roms -triplebuffer -nowindow -joy -volume -32

21:07:41.4 9/3/2006: Running: cmd.exe /c h: h:\mame32\mame32.exe tshoot -rompath h:\Mame32\roms -triplebuffer -nowindow -joy -volume -32

21:09:44.1 9/3/2006: Running: cmd.exe /c h: h:\mame32\mame32.exe mjfocusm -rompath h:\Mame32\roms -triplebuffer -nowindow -joy -volume -32

21:11:46.5 9/3/2006: Running: cmd.exe /c h: h:\mame32\mame32.exe exeriont -rompath h:\Mame32\roms -triplebuffer -nowindow -joy -volume -32

21:13:48.9 9/3/2006: Running: cmd.exe /c h: h:\mame32\mame32.exe harddrb5 -rompath h:\Mame32\roms -triplebuffer -nowindow -joy -volume -32

21:15:51.7 9/3/2006: Running: cmd.exe /c h: h:\mame32\mame32.exe narc3 -rompath h:\Mame32\roms -triplebuffer -nowindow -joy -volume -32

21:17:54.4 9/3/2006: Running: cmd.exe /c h: h:\mame32\mame32.exe spaceskr -rompath h:\Mame32\roms -triplebuffer -nowindow -joy -volume -32

21:19:57.2 9/3/2006: Running: cmd.exe /c h: h:\mame32\mame32.exe kram -rompath h:\Mame32\roms -triplebuffer -nowindow -joy -volume -32

21:22:00.0 9/3/2006: Running: cmd.exe /c h: h:\mame32\mame32.exe ddragn2u -rompath h:\Mame32\roms -triplebuffer -nowindow -joy -volume -32

21:24:02.9 9/3/2006: Running: cmd.exe /c h: h:\mame32\mame32.exe fightfev -rompath h:\Mame32\roms -triplebuffer -nowindow -joy -volume -32

21:25:02.2 9/3/2006: MAME process ended: Exiting attract mode

21:25:12.7 9/3/2006: Running: cmd.exe /c h: hod3launch.exe

21:26:24.0 9/3/2006: Exiting GameEx!

21:26:24.1 9/3/2006: Saving Settings

21:26:26.5 9/3/2006: Checking for applications to Launch On Exit

Tom Speirs GameEx God (Top Rank)

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The thing that I dont understand is External applications never have worked with launchers, but you say the game used to work.

You need to set them up as emulators and specify an advanced emulator configuration that waits for the other processes.

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quote name='TSpeirs' date='Sep 2 2006, 10:20 PM' post='12483']

The thing that I dont understand is External applications never have worked with launchers, but you say the game used to work.

You need to set them up as emulators and specify an advanced emulator configuration that waits for the other processes.

I am sitting here laughing :lol: You wrote the program and it's not supposed to work ... you're a genius!!!! This worked like a charm before. I got the idea because you already had Mad Dog McCree kind of setup as an example so I was like "hell yes I'll set them all up through here!"

I have 12 games currently set up through EXTERNAL APPLICATIONS and this game is the only one that doesn't start the game right away...you have to click on the "PLAY GAME" option on the splash screen so I guess you would call that a launcher??? The actual EXE name is hod3launch.exe which brings up the attachment I posted. Why is this different from Mad Dog or Virtua Cop or House of the dead 1 & 2 other than it requires another step to start??? Thanks for your help!

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Tom Speirs GameEx God (Top Rank)

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quote name='TSpeirs' date='Sep 2 2006, 10:20 PM' post='12483']

The thing that I dont understand is External applications never have worked with launchers, but you say the game used to work.

You need to set them up as emulators and specify an advanced emulator configuration that waits for the other processes.

I am sitting here laughing :lol: You wrote the program and it's not supposed to work ... you're a genius!!!! This worked like a charm before. I got the idea because you already had Mad Dog McCree kind of setup as an example so I was like "hell yes I'll set them all up through here!"

I have 12 games currently set up through EXTERNAL APPLICATIONS and this game is the only one that doesn't start the game right away...you have to click on the "PLAY GAME" option on the splash screen so I guess you would call that a launcher??? The actual EXE name is hod3launch.exe which brings up the attachment I posted. Why is this different from Mad Dog or Virtua Cop or House of the dead 1 & 2 other than it requires another step to start??? Thanks for your help!

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I know some games have a launcher which launches another process then the original process closes and GameEx thinks the app has finished. Thats what I meant. Although you really confused me and I thought I messed up with GameEx as you said this "particular" game used to work but stopped working. Which would mean something in GameEx has changed. So what is it? Did this "particular" game used to work in GameEx or not, or are you just assuming it should have worked before.

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I know some games have a launcher which launches another process then the original process closes and GameEx thinks the app has finished. Thats what I meant. Although you really confused me and I thought I messed up with GameEx as you said this "particular" game used to work but stopped working. Which would mean something in GameEx has changed. So what is it? Did this "particular" game used to work in GameEx or not, or are you just assuming it should have worked before.

Hi Tom,

yes this game used to work through GameEx. So just to re-itterate the changes made I have blown away the old GameEx directory which has been in use for the last 5 or so upgrades.

I installed GameEx fresh which will now start the game but upon exiting, goes to a black screen and I have to alt-F4 to close gameex to get back to my desktop. It is closing the game with the use of ESC.

If it wasn't meant to work this way and was a fluke I understand and you don't need to persue fixing what wasn't meant to be in the first place. I think I can live with out it :lol:

Thanks again

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