u-man Posted April 8, 2015 Author Posted April 8, 2015 You dont believe.... here is my comparison OpenGL vs. new HLSL:OpenGL:new HLSL:You decide.... but I found the new HLSL very nice
gStAv Posted April 8, 2015 Posted April 8, 2015 wow! That's very similar. Do they release the new HLSL shaders in the upcoming MAMEUIFX or can I find them somewrer?
u-man Posted April 8, 2015 Author Posted April 8, 2015 This for sure, will be MAMEUIFX exclusive... I am done with the MAME devs No you cant find this shader anywhere and you cant copy it over to any other MAME build, cause it will not work.... it will be exclusive . 1
gStAv Posted April 8, 2015 Posted April 8, 2015 great news! Just converted to MAMEUIFX since .158 so you had me at "Hello!" Can't wait to see this new greatness
Macguvyer Posted April 8, 2015 Posted April 8, 2015 Thanks for the instructions on how to setup MAMEUIFX with the MAME section of GameEx, u-man. The new HLSL shader you previewed looks great! I like how they tweaked the brightness and contrast! Can't wait to hear more.
millerbrad Posted April 21, 2015 Posted April 21, 2015 Does anyone else notice that the OpenGL effect seems somewhat lopsided? I tried on both MAMEUIFX and vanilla 0.160. On my monitor (1080p widescreen LCD), the pincushion effect on the left is a LOT more pronounced than on the right.EDIT: Looks like the curvature can be disabled by adding two // slashes in front of the "#define CURVATURE" line in the FSH files. Looks like you can also tweak the curvature on the line that starts with "const vec2 warp=". I'll mess around with it later when I get a chance. EDIT #2: I clearly had no idea what I was doing with those "const vec2 warp=" values, and ended up twisting the screen in all kinds of weird directions. However, commenting out the "#define CURVATURE" line actually resulted in a really nice-looking display that I'm sticking with in my cab.
B2K24 Posted May 2, 2015 Posted May 2, 2015 (edited) This for sure, will be MAMEUIFX exclusive... I am done with the MAME devs No you cant find this shader anywhere and you cant copy it over to any other MAME build, cause it will not work.... it will be exclusive .So I tried out the latest MAMEUIFX and can't get anything to look like your new HLSL pic. I even launched wonder boy Deluxe and it looks completely different.Am I not setting something correctly or did all the new HLSL stuff not make it into MAMEUIFX 0.161?Thanks in advance for any help Nevermind. I found his fork on GitHub and merged it into official MAME source tree.I really appreciate his work and looks great Edited May 4, 2015 by B2K24
u-man Posted May 4, 2015 Author Posted May 4, 2015 Sorry for the late response, but yeah, the actual UIFX has v01 of Jezzes shader (actual is v03) and it will be corrected ASAP.The CRT-geom shader conversion should be allright .PS: i am curious what will happen with his fork
B2K24 Posted May 4, 2015 Posted May 4, 2015 Sorry for the late response, but yeah, the actual UIFX has v01 of Jezzes shader (actual is v03) and it will be corrected ASAP.The CRT-geom shader conversion should be allright .PS: i am curious what will happen with his fork No problemo u-man, I know you guys are very busy I'm also curious what will happen with his fork. If for some reason it is rejected I will have to pray Jezze keeps updated files somewhere online as progress is made and I will do my own merge and compile or just simply run MAMEUIFXThanks again guys for all the work you're doing
u-man Posted May 14, 2015 Author Posted May 14, 2015 Customizing the CRT Geom ShaderThis document identifies some of the user-configurable options available in the CRT Geom Shader and provides some screenshots to explain their effects.For individuals interested in recapturing the look of retro gaming consoles played on a CRT television like the ones we grew up with, the CRT Geom Shader provides the closest approximation available for modern LCD displays. The pixel shader is purely cosmetic--nothing could impart the technical advantages of a CRT, such as negligible input lag and insanely high contrast, to an LCD--but it can go a long way to displaying old games as we remember them. Since memory and nostalgia are important to the way we perceive these games, each person will have different feelings about what looks "right" to them.We will be using the latest (as of the time of this writing, 7/28/12) and most complete version of the shader, known as CRT-Geom. This shader allows for simulated screen curvature, rounded corners, simulation of a back-tilted screen (for arcade emulation) and many other goodies. All images are captured at 4x scale, click the thumbnails to embiggen.This is what the shader looks like with all default parameters, also known as the 'curved' variant (cgwg chose sane values for all of the variables by default):The user-configurable parameters are primarily located in two places in the shader, starting at line 87 in the .vsh section of the shader and line 12 for the .fsh section. You should be able to open and edit the shader in any text editor, but I recommend Notepad++.In the following examples, we are talking about this portion of the .vsh shader-code:// START of parameters // gamma of simulated CRT CRTgamma = 2.4; // gamma of display monitor (typically 2.2 is correct) monitorgamma = 2.2; // overscan (e.g. 1.02 for 2% overscan) overscan = vec2(0.90,0.90); // aspect ratio aspect = vec2(1.0, 0.75); // lengths are measured in units of (approximately) the width of the monitor // simulated distance from viewer to monitor d = 2.0; // radius of curvature R = 3.0; // tilt angle in radians // (behavior might be a bit wrong if both components are nonzero) const vec2 angle = vec2(0.0,0.0); // size of curved corners cornersize = 0.03; // border smoothness parameter // decrease if borders are too aliased cornersmooth = 100.0; // END of parametersThe first parameters, 'gamma of simulated CRT' and 'gamma of display monitor' allow the shader to determine how much gamma correction to apply to the image. CRT displays generally had higher gamma ratings than most LCD displays (2.4 for a typical CRT vs 2.2 for a typical LCD), so the shader adds 0.2 to the gamma to compensate. If you calibrate your LCD to a higher or lower gamma setting, you may wish to change the 'gamma of display monitor' to reflect your individual settings. You can also raise or lower the simulated gamma to make a darker, more saturated look:or a lighter, desaturated look: 1
u-man Posted May 14, 2015 Author Posted May 14, 2015 Next, we have 'overscan.' Each CRT showed a slightly different amount of the picture, and the cut-off portion was referred to as overscan. You can modify the amount of over- or underscan by changing this variable. Setting it to (0.00,0.00) will assume you want the picture aligned exactly with the borders of the window. Setting it to a value greater than 1.0 (for example, 1.10,1.10) will cut off a large portion of the screen (approximately 10% in this example):while setting it to a value less than 1.0 will surround the screen with black bars (i.e., underscan):Increasing the overscan slightly, say, to 1.02,1.02, can cut off unsightly garbage lines at the top of the screen, which is common on NES games.Next, we have 'aspect ratio,' which controls how much our screen curvature settings will affect the top/bottom and sides of the image. The default setting of 1.0, 0.75 means the curvature will be more pronounced on the top/bottom than on the sides, to compensate for the standard 4:3 aspect ratio. Setting it to 1.0, 1.0 will make the settings affect both sides of the screen equally, which isn't quite right in that the top/bottom actually appears more curved than the sides:If for some reason you want only the sides straight, you can set it to 1.0, 0.5:or 0.5, 1.0 to make only the top/bottom straight:Next up, we have 'simulated distance from viewer to monitor.' Similar to the 'aspect ratio' setting, this exaggerates the effect of the 'tilt angle' setting that we'll be covering in just a moment. The default value of 2.0 is reasonable.Increasing the value reduces the effect of the tilt angle:while lower values magnify it:Next, we have 'radius of curvature,' which determines how curved our simulated TV tube will be. Setting the value to 2.0 reduces the curvature to something more like what I remember.'Tilt angle' pincushions one side of the screen. To tilt the screen back, use a negative value for the second number. The default for the 'arcade tilt' variant, (0.0,-0.15), is a sane value:while increasing the second value tilts it back further, which can be disorienting:After that, we come to 'cornersize,' which determines the radius of the corner arc. I think a setting of 0.03, as used in the default image, looks appropriate. Increasing the value to 0.10 makes for some silly, super-round corners:while a value of 0.001 makes for super-pointy corners:For the last parameter in this section, we have 'cornersmooth,' which determines how sharp (sharp as in sharp/blur, not as in pointy) the corners look. The default value is 1000.0, which looks fine, but I noticed that if you set the value insanely low (i.e., 80), you get a little vignetting around the edges, which reminds me of my crummy old TVs: 1
u-man Posted May 14, 2015 Author Posted May 14, 2015 On to the next set of parameters.The second set of options are either enabled or disabled by using 'comments,' which in this case are represented as a double-slash, like this //.The first option is 'linear processing,' which enables interpolation of linear gamma:The effect is subtle, but disabling it via commenting it out (//#define LINEAR_PROCESSING) can improve the framerate with some video cards.Next, we have 'Enable screen curvature.' Pretty self-explanatory, but if you comment this line out, you'll get straight top/bottom/sides of the screen, but with the corner arcs intact (barely visible in this shot):By commenting this out and setting 'cornersize' to 0.0, you get an idealized flat CRT tube, which is represented by the 'CRT-flat' shader variant:The next two options work together (that is, if you uncomment one, you should comment the other). By default, the shader uses 3x oversampling of the beam profile, which makes brighter pixels bleed further into the surrounding scanlines. Here it is with the default oversampling, scaled up 400% (look closely; it's most obvious on the bright red of Mario's sleeve):and here it is with the gaussian beam profile:The gaussian beam profile may have better performance on some video cards.Those are all of the options available for the standard CRT shader, but there are a few more things we can add in. The first of which is support for interlaced video. Some games did a sort of fake doubling of their vertical resolution by showing different lines of a progressive signal on alternating frames in a process known as interlacing. If handled incorrectly, you will see a ton of combing artifacts (weird horizontal lines on moving objects), as well as distorted scanlines (first image taken using this older, non-interlace-supported version):These pictures unfortunately cannot show the jutter in the lower image that occurs from showing different lines on each alternating frame.The main content and most of the part of this tutorial was done by Hunter K.Minor correction done by u-man 1
Macguvyer Posted May 22, 2015 Posted May 22, 2015 Thanks for taking the time to carefully explain all the settings! Very helpful.
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